Weight loss ups and downs - 800 Calorie - Newcastle

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@ColinUK, we're all totally behind you mate, you've got this 😉
 
ColinUK said:
Today is reset day.

I did this before and did it “properly” so I know I can do it again.

Day 1 of 8 to 12 weeks of following the Newcastle diet.

I’m not the same person I was when I did it first time around of course. My weight isn’t as high. My HbA1C isn’t as high. My knowledge about diabetes is greater.
My way of eating has improved by quite some way but isn’t where I want it to be.

I have weight to drop (fifteen kilos would be great).

I’ve got some shakes in stock and have another delivery coming this week.

I also have an appointment with a dietician for support.

This forum and the members thereof are also a huge support and I thank you.

I’ve laid out four shakes and will be having them approximately 8am, midday, 4pm and 8pm. That’s 800 calories. Timings may vary a bit because of exercise/sleep/life etc but that’s what I’m intending to do.

Oh I made yoghurt over the weekend so I’ll put a spoonful in the shakes to cut the sweetness.

Weight: 102.3
Target: 87.3
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Good luck hopefully with the support it should be great. I could not afford to do this. It will take great discipline well done I know you can do this.
 
Good luck Colin, I will try and do it with you! Ha! Gonna start right this minute. Son will have to eat on his own today then, I'll be on the SlimFast. 🙂
 
Nayshiftin said:
Good luck hopefully with the support it should be great. I could not afford to do this. It will take great discipline well done I know you can do this.
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Exante offer 45% of everything for those with diabetes.
Also there’s a further discount if you use my referral code and haven’t bought from them before.

COLIN-R91
 
Ditto said:
Good luck Colin, I will try and do it with you! Ha! Gonna start right this minute. Son will have to eat on his own today then, I'll be on the SlimFast. 🙂
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I’ve never tried SlimFast. Is there a huge price difference or is it tastier?
 
Ditto said:
Good luck Colin, I will try and do it with you! Ha! Gonna start right this minute. Son will have to eat on his own today then, I'll be on the SlimFast. 🙂
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Oh and as Yoda said,
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Best of luck Colin, not that you need it because you have done it before and you have all the tools to be successful.

I am actually considering joining you. I hate the idea/principle of such highly manufactured food replacement stuff but I don't have the time or the motivation to cook at the moment and I am just skipping meals as a result...... aside from my daily breakfast yoghurt with stewed rhubarb and seeds, I haven't had a proper meal for days, just a pot of olives with feta or a packet of pork scratchings or some nuts. I need to make eating easier and more structured and balanced and I could do with losing a few pounds at the moment. I would find it hard to give up my morning coffee with cream and my yoghurt breakfast but having the shakes for lunch and dinner would really take the strain off. Will have a look at Exante. Thanks for the code.
 
I'm not sure if SlimFast is any better than Exante, I am just used to it. I'm thinking Exante made with water might be a better option bg wise, but it will be trial and error. SlimFast is £2 a bottle in Asda but I've seen it cheaper elsewhere.
 
Ditto said:
I'm not sure if SlimFast is any better than Exante, I am just used to it. I'm thinking Exante made with water might be a better option bg wise, but it will be trial and error. SlimFast is £2 a bottle in Asda but I've seen it cheaper elsewhere.
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I make the Exante with filtered cold water. I often throw in a few ice cubes.
The spoonful of yoghurt can cut through the sweetness but actually they’re fine without. The ice just thickens the shake.
 
rebrascora said:
Best of luck Colin, not that you need it because you have done it before and you have all the tools to be successful.

I am actually considering joining you. I hate the idea/principle of such highly manufactured food replacement stuff but I don't have the time or the motivation to cook at the moment and I am just skipping meals as a result...... aside from my daily breakfast yoghurt with stewed rhubarb and seeds, I haven't had a proper meal for days, just a pot of olives with feta or a packet of pork scratchings or some nuts. I need to make eating easier and more structured and balanced and I could do with losing a few pounds at the moment. I would find it hard to give up my morning coffee with cream and my yoghurt breakfast but having the shakes for lunch and dinner would really take the strain off. Will have a look at Exante. Thanks for the code.
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The whole point is to restrict choice so as to restrict temptation!
Yes having your morning coffee with cream and having yoghurt won’t be a problem if that’s what makes it work for you.

Prof Taylor advises that after the initial weight is lost one weighs oneself daily. If you see a 1/2kg increase then get the shakes back out for a couple of days to drop it.
For me that’s one of the hardest things to get my head around but it makes sense.

With time, practice and support the idea is that one doesn’t need the shakes at all because weight is stable as you’ve learned which meals/food and portion sizes are fine for you.

It’s all about balance really and the VLCD shakes help reset the scales. Literally and figuratively.

Went for a bike ride this morning as I had unused minutes from the package I bought yesterday to get me to Waterloo and back. Popped into Boots afterwards to pick up some bits and can’t tell you how much I really wanted to go into the bistro nearby and order avocado and poached eggs on toast as a reward for committing to another round of Newcastle shakes.

Dumb I know. So I came home. And I’m sipping the morning shake like a good boy.
 
ColinUK said:
The whole point is to restrict choice so as to restrict temptation!
Yes having your morning coffee with cream and having yoghurt won’t be a problem if that’s what makes it work for you.

Prof Taylor advises that after the initial weight is lost one weighs oneself daily. If you see a 1/2kg increase then get the shakes back out for a couple of days to drop it.
For me that’s one of the hardest things to get my head around but it makes sense.

With time, practice and support the idea is that one doesn’t need the shakes at all because weight is stable as you’ve learned which meals/food and portion sizes are fine for you.

It’s all about balance really and the VLCD shakes help reset the scales. Literally and figuratively.

Went for a bike ride this morning as I had unused minutes from the package I bought yesterday to get me to Waterloo and back. Popped into Boots afterwards to pick up some bits and can’t tell you how much I really wanted to go into the bistro nearby and order avocado and poached eggs on toast as a reward for committing to another round of Newcastle shakes.

Dumb I know. So I came home. And I’m sipping the morning shake like a good boy.
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I think it's great you have made the decision to address weight gain by another round on the VLCD. I'm really interested in your experiences Colin as your thread was my inspiration to give the VLCD a go, and you are my 'pathfinder'. I hope you don't mind if I ask a few questions.

Do you think you need to go the full 8 weeks - I think I made over half the losses in the first 3-4. Wouldn't you want to accept that?

How quickly did your weight come back on? Was it gradual or did you take the brakes off your diet and it happened as a result.?

Did you ever try intermittent fasting like the 5:2 diet?

You did a a half marathon a few weeks ago - I'm doing one on 14th June, so you were obviously exercising. I'm a bit concerned (for myself) that this didn't help keep your weight off - did it help?

I'm 4Kg heavier than I was when finished the VLCD 8 months ago. Actually I never made my target weight of 77kg. I'm now 83/ 84 kg. I have cut out a lot of carbs, but allowed myself to go back on the beer. For the last 4-5 months, I've been telling myself I am restricting my diet sufficiently and exercising. Like you, I have the idea that I might have a reset session of VLCD, but I feel it would be better if I had more control every day.

A lot to think about, thank you for continuing to share your story
 
ColinUK said:
I make the Exante with filtered cold water. I often throw in a few ice cubes.
The spoonful of yoghurt can cut through the sweetness but actually they’re fine without. The ice just thickens the shake.
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I don't really like cold/chilled things unless it is very hot so I might be inclined to add some psyllium husk or chia seeds to thicken it rather than ice and will defo be adding yoghurt. I do need to lose a few kgs but I am mostly looking to make having balanced meals and managing diabetes easier for a while.... I assume each pack has it's carb content on it fto enable me to insulin dose.
I am toying with a 4 week pack with some extras. I am not a terribly fussy eater and can "mind over matter" most things I don't like, although a milk chocolate and mint combo is pretty challenging 🙄 and not overly keen on fish but guessing there is unlikely to be many/any fishy meals?? Is a box/pack a good idea do you think.... otherwise I just get overwhelmed with the choices. Also, where do I find the diabetes discount offer?
I see there is a free delivery and free gift if I purchase over £80. Are there any particular items that you would recommend to make my order up by a few quid to make the £80..... but then if I get a diabetes discount will that not count?

Sorry to bombard you with questions Colin. 😳
 
Weekender said:
Do you think you need to go the full 8 weeks - I think I made over half the losses in the first 3-4. Wouldn't you want to accept that?

How quickly did your weight come back on? Was it gradual or did you take the brakes off your diet and it happened as a result.?

Did you ever try intermittent fasting like the 5:2 diet?

You did a a half marathon a few weeks ago - I'm doing one on 14th June, so you were obviously exercising. I'm a bit concerned (for myself) that this didn't help keep your weight off - did it help?
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In my head I'm setting aside the 12 weeks. I expect I'll have quite significant losses in the first 8 so will review as it's a weight target more than a time target.

Weight returned gradually.

And exercise certainly helps!
 
I do acknowledge that where I am is not the same place I was when I first lost the weight. I have experience of living with T2 for a couple of years and I've also got knowledge about ways of eating and how the weight gain/loss can make me feel.

The biggest thing to learn from this time around is how to manage the transition to a healthy way of eating long term when this is done.

I know I tried to push boundaries with what was acceptable for my body and that's led me to where I am now. I want to relearn that but amend the outcome. Instead of pushing carbs higher over time what I will focus on is breaking that link which still sees food as a reward or a punishment - so the emotional eating loop is the focus for the end of this period and that's possibly more beneficially impactful as I still learn to live with diabetes.
 
ColinUK said:
I do acknowledge that where I am is not the same place I was when I first lost the weight. I have experience of living with T2 for a couple of years and I've also got knowledge about ways of eating and how the weight gain/loss can make me feel.

The biggest thing to learn from this time around is how to manage the transition to a healthy way of eating long term when this is done.

I know I tried to push boundaries with what was acceptable for my body and that's led me to where I am now. I want to relearn that but amend the outcome. Instead of pushing carbs higher over time what I will focus on is breaking that link which still sees food as a reward or a punishment - so the emotional eating loop is the focus for the end of this period and that's possibly more beneficially impactful as I still learn to live with diabetes.
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I think that is a really insightful post.
 
Insightful yes, easy OMG OF COURSE IT IS!! :rofl:
 
ColinUK said:
Insightful yes, easy OMG OF COURSE IT IS!! :rofl:
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I deliberately avoided adding that it might not be easy to achieve, as I didn't want to add a negative tone to the thread.

Long term eating habits/rituals/customs are really hard to break. You have to acknowledge the massive improvements you have made on the majority of days, on the occasional days when you fall from grace.... at least that is the way I try to tackle it. None of us are perfect and we will all lose control occasionally in one way or another. For me if the occasional indiscretion becomes less frequent, I am winning.
 
@rebrascora This is a safe space for spilling all the details of whatever transgressions you feel you want to get off your chest!
 
ColinUK said:
@rebrascora This is a safe space for spilling all the details of whatever transgressions you feel you want to get off your chest!
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Apols if this is way way off target, but have you thought about or had a conversation with yr doc about Ozempic etc as a weight-loss aid?

The mechanism of these semaglutides apparently is to adjust the hormonal gut-brain processes so that there isn't a constant impulse to eat, reducing visceral reaction to food sights & smells, and so on.

They make it so that it may become possible to exert a feasible amount of willpower where before it was like trying to hold back the tide - as somebody put it.

Anyway, apparently they can work really well.
 
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