Weight loss ups and downs - 800 Calorie - Newcastle

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ColinUK said:
So my weight is right back where it was when I started this journey.

I did know I'd relaxed somewhat in regards to the amount of food I was eating and was pushing the carb levels too but with the BG figures being reasonable in the mornings I'd kind of let it slide.
Added into the mix is all the mental health and stress stuff about the police reports, the other ongoing and seemingly neverending case, lockdown etc and I'm not shocked that the weight came back and I'm pleased that bloods have been reasonable ok throughout but it's time to drop the weight again and hopefully put something in place to keep it off.

I've set an intention to get back to Park Run this weekend (and will be sporting my new compression running tights!) and I've reintroduced the Exante shakes back into my daily routine. At the moment I'm doing two or three shakes and a healthy meal but that's only because I've got some homemade chicken soup and some other low carb bits in the fridge which I'll use up, also it's mum's 80th birthday this weekend so that's going to be food related.
I'm relaxed about things right now food wise and I'll tighten them up again after the b'day celebrations and will probably go to full Exante to drop maybe 12kgs or thereabouts before reintroducing foods.

I'm not back to square one though as my relationship with food has changed and my awareness of what my diabetes is and needs is vastly improved as well.

Weight this morning was 101kg down from 103kg yesterday (give or take a few hundred grams).
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Thanks for the post @ColinUK - I was wondering how things were going for you. It's good to know your BG levels are acceptable, which is the main thing. Your relationship to food and what you have learned are bound to be valuable if you decide to tackle your weight.
There are times when I think about resetting my benchmark and also consider taking the drugs so I can relax my food regime, but I'm not really that fussed about what I am missing out on (bread, cakes, and beer).
I hope you decide to share on the thread how you get on with the running and the new phase of weight loss.
 
Weekender said:
Thanks for the post @ColinUK - I was wondering how things were going for you. It's good to know your BG levels are acceptable, which is the main thing. Your relationship to food and what you have learned are bound to be valuable if you decide to tackle your weight.
There are times when I think about resetting my benchmark and also consider taking the drugs so I can relax my food regime, but I'm not really that fussed about what I am missing out on (bread, cakes, and beer).
I hope you decide to share on the thread how you get on with the running and the new phase of weight loss.
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It's my intention to share here and probably bits in the waking average thread too I'm sure.

Yes the mmol is the most important thing but it'll be good to drop some weight again whilst keeping the mmol in a good place 🙂

And thank you for your support!
 
Rekhaw said:
Thanks ColinUk for your response to my concerns. Briefly my story is:
I was diagnosed about 5 years ago and kept promising to get my glucose and weight under the limits. Last month i had to admit that my attempts were not working and agreed to go on to Metformin. I am not coping well with the tablets and was offered the REWIND programme this week but do not know anything about it. Such as do i have to have the shakes and soups ONLY for the first three months because that would drive me crazy without any Indian food or cooking. Does that mean that i cannot go out with friends etc for a meal.

I wondered if anyone on this forum has any experience of how they cope with these sorts of issues.
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Hi @Rekhaw - I started the Newcastle diet 42 weeks ago. I think of it as 8 weeks. In fact most of the weight was lost in the first 4-6 weeks and my blood sugars were sorted by then. The diet is a challenge, but if you go with the flow, it's quite a rewarding experience. It's not that uncomfortable after the first three days as your body gets used to metabolising your fat.
You are supposed to eat vegetables and salads along with the soups and shakes, and it might be an interesting challenge to see if a flavoursome Indian (vidic perhaps) recipes can be changed to keep with calorie limits.
I went out with friends, to restaurants and down the pub, and really enjoyed being virtuous (no beer for me, no chips for me etc) Once people know you are taking positive steps to fix diabetes they are pretty supportive.
There are a several people on this forum who have completed the diet and are pleased with their new life styles.
I have a thread which describes my experience week by week
Good luck
 
@Rekhaw @Weekender And it's worth pointing out that there's no ideal time to start the regime either. There are always things in the calendar which are likely to derail you if you let them: birthdays; Christmas; holidays etc but then it can be said that the best time to start making the change is always yesterday so...
 
Best of luck to you @ColinUK. As I think I've said before, reading your story was one of my inspirations in the early days of joining the forum. It's been an appalling time for people's mental health: lockdown, prices spiralling out of control and now Ukraine. The fact you've managed to pretty much keep your BG level is amazing, so once again you inspire us xxx
 
Definitely. 🙂
 
i think a detailed conversation with the dietian is required to work out how to combine the best of the options. I have also been looking at my past test results and feel that inaccurate decision has been made.

Thanks for your suggestions.
 
Feel free to join in the rambling cover-all topics thread which is called 7 day waking average.
It’s really used as a general check in and comment on anything and everything thread and it’s the best place to get to know those who post here regularly and one of the best places to ask for help too 🙂
 
Rekhaw said:
i think a detailed conversation with the dietian is required to work out how to combine the best of the options. I have also been looking at my past test results and feel that inaccurate decision has been made.

Thanks for your suggestions.
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In what respect do you feel an inaccurate decision has been made?, if you are happy to say that is.
 
This weekend was full of celebratory foods as it was mum’s 80th birthday bash.
And there was lots left over. Some came home with me and I finished it up yesterday.

I’ll weigh myself tomorrow and count that as Day 1 of the next stint of VLCD eating.
I’m aiming for 600-1000 calories a day so pretty much four meal replacement shakes a day (200 each) other than those days when I really don’t feel hungry or when I want a salad or something.
Probably not going to weigh in every day but maybe I’ll do once a week Mondays.

I’ve also got to factor in that I’m running this half marathon in a few weeks as well but that’s an excuse I guess. I’m certainly carrying enough spare fuel to get me over the finish line!
 
Does you bg not go up with the drinks? Slimfast puts me in the double figures. :(
 
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Does you bg not go up with the drinks? Slimfast puts me in the double figures. :(
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It does within an hour but it’s generally flat after two and then lower again.
 
Leadinglights said:
In what respect do you feel an inaccurate decision has been made?, if you are happy to say that is.
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@Leadinglights i think the blood test results were taken as fasting when i had had breakfast only an hour before the test (I was told it was going to non fasting). I don't know if it makes any difference at all. I know my hb1AC is higher than normal levels so i suppose its being pedantic.
 
ColinUK said:
This weekend was full of celebratory foods as it was mum’s 80th birthday bash.
And there was lots left over. Some came home with me and I finished it up yesterday.

I’ll weigh myself tomorrow and count that as Day 1 of the next stint of VLCD eating.
I’m aiming for 600-1000 calories a day so pretty much four meal replacement shakes a day (200 each) other than those days when I really don’t feel hungry or when I want a salad or something.
Probably not going to weigh in every day but maybe I’ll do once a week Mondays.

I’ve also got to factor in that I’m running this half marathon in a few weeks as well but that’s an excuse I guess. I’m certainly carrying enough spare fuel to get me over the finish line!
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Good luck with your half marathon. Just to make that committment is a big achievement.
 
Weekender said:
Hi @Rekhaw - I started the Newcastle diet 42 weeks ago. I think of it as 8 weeks. In fact most of the weight was lost in the first 4-6 weeks and my blood sugars were sorted by then. The diet is a challenge, but if you go with the flow, it's quite a rewarding experience. It's not that uncomfortable after the first three days as your body gets used to metabolising your fat.
You are supposed to eat vegetables and salads along with the soups and shakes, and it might be an interesting challenge to see if a flavoursome Indian (vidic perhaps) recipes can be changed to keep with calorie limits.
I went out with friends, to restaurants and down the pub, and really enjoyed being virtuous (no beer for me, no chips for me etc) Once people know you are taking positive steps to fix diabetes they are pretty supportive.
There are a several people on this forum who have completed the diet and are pleased with their new life styles.
I have a thread which describes my experience week by week
Good luck
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Hi @Weekender thanks for your comments. I will have a look on your thread.
 
Rekhaw said:
@Leadinglights i think the blood test results were taken as fasting when i had had breakfast only an hour before the test (I was told it was going to non fasting). I don't know if it makes any difference at all. I know my hb1AC is higher than normal levels so i suppose its being pedantic.
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If it was an HbA1C test from a blood sample from your arm and sent to the lab, having eaten would make no difference as that test is an average over a 3 month period of time.
A spot test from a finger prick, yes if you have eaten might make a difference if it was a carby food.
 
Leadinglights said:
I found them completely inedible, smelt fishy, vile texture, they went in the bin.
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they need to be rinsed, and then patted dry with kitchen roll. A bit of a faff but they are 20 calories a serving and not really any carb. I like them.
 
101.0 kg today
 
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