Weight loss ups and downs - 800 Calorie - Newcastle

[ColinUK]

Oh what joy.
No cheating at all and I’ve put weight on ffs.
Only 0.3kg but still it does make me sometimes wonder what the point of even bothering is.



I do know the point of bothering and will continue to do so.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Oh what joy.
No cheating at all and I’ve put weight on ffs.
Only 0.3kg but still it does make me sometimes wonder what the point of even bothering is.



I do know the point of bothering and will continue to do so.

You can't micromanage it to that degree.
That's 0.3 litres of water.
Around a cup of coffee.
You can sweat that out on a hot day, or a toilet break, and double or triple back in it after a meal.

 

[Eddy Edson]

You can't micromanage it to that degree.
That's 0.3 litres of water.
Around a cup of coffee.
You can sweat that out on a hot day, or a toilet break, and double or triple back in it after a meal.

What I was thinking. 300g is just noise.

 

[ColinUK]

Of course it’s within a margin of error for the scales and is the difference a glass of water makes but all we have to measure weight is the bathroom scale so if that’s what it says then that’s what you’re working with.

 

[Kreator]

Yep, I found my own body weight fluctuates as well, and 0.3Kg is neither here nor there - keep up the great work @ColinUK 😉

 

[ColinUK]

I’m finally moving so that means defrosting food in the freezer because it won’t fit in the one in the new place.

I’ve binned some stuff but might well indulge in a little forbidden fruits rather than chuck them all out.

I’ll expect weight to nudge up if I do but it’s a conscious choice to eat the food. And weighed myself this morning and I’m 98.9

I’ve proven to myself that with prep I can make shakes and take them with me if I’m heading out somewhere and that the results are tangible.

Yes Exante isn’t the easiest regimen to follow but I’ve a family thing in a couple of weeks so one day eating freezer food and then back on won’t do much damage to weight or BG averages.

I’m expecting a review appointment late September and want to be into the low 90k range.

And I started a gratitude journal two days ago. This forum is in there already.

 

[NotWorriedAtAll]

I’m finally moving so that means defrosting food in the freezer because it won’t fit in the one in the new place.

I’ve binned some stuff but might well indulge in a little forbidden fruits rather than chuck them all out.

I’ll expect weight to nudge up if I do but it’s a conscious choice to eat the food. And weighed myself this morning and I’m 98.9

I’ve proven to myself that with prep I can make shakes and take them with me if I’m heading out somewhere and that the results are tangible.

Yes Exante isn’t the easiest regimen to follow but I’ve a family thing in a couple of weeks so one day eating freezer food and then back on won’t do much damage to weight or BG averages.

I’m expecting a review appointment late September and want to be into the low 90k range.

And I started a gratitude journal two days ago. This forum is in there already.

Hello Colin,
I've not been on the forum for a while and the first thing I saw was your recent post and I just wanted to say hello and to tell you I am rooting for you still/again and I am glad you are sharing your journey and gaining support here. You are a bright sensitive and self aware person and you are doing all the right things to find your path through this. I admire your tenacity and resilience. I hope you are giving yourself the credit you deserve. Hope your move and the family stuff goes okay for you. Keep on keeping on. You are doing so well.

 

[mopinwil]

I’m finally moving so that means defrosting food in the freezer because it won’t fit in the one in the new place.

I’ve binned some stuff but might well indulge in a little forbidden fruits rather than chuck them all out.

I’ll expect weight to nudge up if I do but it’s a conscious choice to eat the food. And weighed myself this morning and I’m 98.9

I’ve proven to myself that with prep I can make shakes and take them with me if I’m heading out somewhere and that the results are tangible.

Yes Exante isn’t the easiest regimen to follow but I’ve a family thing in a couple of weeks so one day eating freezer food and then back on won’t do much damage to weight or BG averages.

I’m expecting a review appointment late September and want to be into the low 90k range.

And I started a gratitude journal two days ago. This forum is in there already.

I have just sent for Evante two week program to see what it is like regarding taste and success in losing weight using the wares they have. I think this is very exciting for me because I have been using a low carb (100grms a day) diet for approx three months and I have lost 21 pounds so far - this is good for me because losing using any other type of diet failed miserably. This has been without any effort and I am not feeling hungry at all and not necessarily doing any further excercise that I used to do. I really hope this helps me lose a further stone within the next two months. I will be getting a further supply of Exante in time to carry on for the next month if I like the product. I will be back to report on my progress once they arrive and I have started.
Regards to all 🙂
Mo

 

[ColinUK]

So.... Not weighed myself for a while and not really intending to do so in the immediate future. I know that some things fit a little better than they were but I've still got too much weight compared to the ideal.
Diet has ebbed and flowed over the last few weeks as I've continued to process other things.
Legal stuff (not Survivors related) is still rumbling on and I've moved to the flat upstairs and had to say goodbye to my beautiful balcony. But the new place isn't too bad and I'm quite enjoying the 3m high windows and the light they give.
As for the Survivors stuff, the formal group therapy ends next week and there's still one case ongoing with the Police.

All that to one side and I have to say I've learnt more about what my body can accept or not regarding food recently than I have before. A little bread (as long as it's good quality "proper" French bread) seems to be OK whereas "standard" bread is a no go unless it's literally a coin sized piece. What really sends my BG skyhigh is anything which could even vaguely be described as a pudding. All the sweet stuff has to go unless it's made with almond flour and non-sugars but I'm not going to be baking much as I've no longer got a full-size freezer so there's nowhere to freeze batch/bulk cooked items.

I'm re-reading Roy Taylor (again) and I've taken my Low Carb/Diabetic cookbooks down from the shelf and am starting to thumb through those again so there's been a small shift from thinking that the shakes are the only way I can go forward towards a more balanced mode where there's a mix of shakes and low carb food. However I'm confused about the best way to go forward for the weight loss. Yes the shakes are a sure fire way to drop pounds but they're so dull it lifesapping. But they do remove the element of choice and can stop the lure of the bakery at the end of the road as the smell of freshly baked goods wafts down the road.
I suppose I need to make a decision whether I'm going to give the Newcastle approach another concerted go or if I'm going to switch to a more low-carb food based method of dropping the pounds.
Obviously the only way to keep them off is to go food based so perhaps that approach would be better but I don't know if I can be bothered to cook that much right now with everything else I'm dealing with.


Just wanted to vent some stuff on here so Thank You for reading it 🙂

 

[mopinwil]

I have been waiting for a week for a reply from my medic concerning the request to follow a recognised powder weight-loss eating program. Not really satifactory when I proved that I have worked so hard dieting with a low carb, low calorie food weight-loss program and wished to go on to a powder food solution to have a break from having to make my meals from scratch each day. It will be to do a powder based loss program or to risk falling off the low carb, low calorie food program - I just need a break. It will be interesting to find out when I actually get a telephone call from the surgery to say that my two forms have been signed to progress with the two matters in hand, one of which is Medics consent to go onto low powder weight-loss program, I wish I knew what the hold up was. If they say they are busy I can understand that but to just leave me hanging on for a response feels quite cruel to my way of thinking. Sadly this appears to be a sign of the times where I live these days.

 

[ColinUK]

So last night saw the final session of the initial Group I've been attending at SurvivorsUK - It got a bit emotional yesterday with lots of time being spent expressing gratitude towards each other and sharing the insights we've gleaned into our selves. Also underscoring everything is of course our shifting perspective regarding whatever sexual trauma we've survived.

We did swap contact details and we've said we're going to meet up IRL at some point but it does mark the end of something. Granted it's not "the" end but just an end. The support we get from SurvivorsUK is ongoing and there is now the option of individual therapy but there's a one year waiting list for that. It's a huge 48 sessions so it's over a year of 1-to-1 therapy which I think I'm going to go on the waitlist for. There's other things such as a Philosophy group I already attend and which provokes some really profound insight in the exploration of whichever philosophical idea we've been exploring that week.
I think there is also a Creative Writing group and I am interested in joining that one as well. If it exists and isn't a figment of my imagination!

Dealing, or at least starting to deal, with my various sexual trauma has had an impact on my diabetes. As I've faced the reality of what happened I found it increasingly difficult to give the diabetes the brain space and the emotional energy it really demands. I largely went back to the old ways of eating with bread and crisps being a much needed comfort. That being said I was more mindful about the impact of what I was eating and the impact of cutting the exercise down to the bare minimum so it wasn't quite the same as it was before because I was different, my awareness was (and is) greater. But weighing things up I had only the energy to deal with the trauma and surrendered to that truth. I was confident that when there was the space to refocus on my diabetes management I would be able to do that.

That's why I went quiet on here too. But I lurked whilst being quiet. And I took sustenance the routine nature of the posts I was reading. The daily posting of morning BG numbers. The gardening thread. The odd jokes made me smile. And the never ending stream of newbies coming here on a search for knowledge, comfort and support in the face of their diagnosis. To see that support and comfort freely given warms my heart and made me realise how grateful I am to each and every one of you. You give support freely. You give generously. You give from the heart and you don't expect anything back.

I'm grateful to be a part of this bunch and wish you all a great day.

 

[Christy]

That's why I went quiet on here too. But I lurked whilst being quiet. And I took sustenance the routine nature of the posts I was reading. The daily posting of morning BG numbers. The gardening thread. The odd jokes made me smile. And the never ending stream of newbies coming here on a search for knowledge, comfort and support in the face of their diagnosis. To see that support and comfort freely given warms my heart and made me realise how grateful I am to each and every one of you. You give support freely. You give generously. You give from the heart and you don't expect anything back.

I'm grateful to be a part of this bunch and wish you all a great day.

We've missed you @ColinUK. Good to hear how you're doing and that the support you've been given is helping you move forward. Take care.

 

[Deleted member 33972]

I’m really missing bread/pasta/rice/biscuits today. And I mean REALLY missing them.

I’m about to make mushroom mapu tofu and I’m going to have it with konjac noodles as they’re absolutely zero carbs.

I’ve just googled these? Do they taste OK ?

 

[Leadinglights]

I’ve just googled these? Do they taste OK ?

I found them completely inedible, smelt fishy, vile texture, they went in the bin.

 

[Deleted member 33972]

I found them completely inedible, smelt fishy, vile texture, they went in the bin.

TBH I feel sick thinking of the shakes as well. Colin said he felt very cold in his journey at one point. I tried the fast 800 on my own a few years ago. I’m 71 and was shaking with the cold. I decided it’s not normal for someone my age to feel cold like that. They said in a Facebook group I was in Ketosis. I lost 6 lbs in 4 days but it was soon back on. It said when I googled they smelled like fish but you rinse them then cook them. I seen a programme with Japanese making smelly tofu and the smellier the better. Japanese can’t get enough of it. To each their own lol ty for your reply.

 

[ColinUK]

The smell is easily washed away and they cook well in a dry pan.
They’re only really a change in texture and some are much better than others but they’re ok to me.

 

[ColinUK]

Diagnosed last week. In a rather unsatisfactory manner. (See my Bit of a Shock) thread in Newbies.

I’ve been 16st something for a while now and I know I really needed to shift at least three stone... worth noting that max weight over the last four years has been recorded at 17 1/2 stone.

Just wanted to share that today for the first time in living memory the scales showed my weight starting with 15! 15st 13 1/2lbs to be exact!

I’m not kidding myself that tomorrow it won’t be 16st something again but the trend is absolutely downwards!

Yay me 🙂

So my weight is right back where it was when I started this journey.

I did know I'd relaxed somewhat in regards to the amount of food I was eating and was pushing the carb levels too but with the BG figures being reasonable in the mornings I'd kind of let it slide.
Added into the mix is all the mental health and stress stuff about the police reports, the other ongoing and seemingly neverending case, lockdown etc and I'm not shocked that the weight came back and I'm pleased that bloods have been reasonable ok throughout but it's time to drop the weight again and hopefully put something in place to keep it off.

I've set an intention to get back to Park Run this weekend (and will be sporting my new compression running tights!) and I've reintroduced the Exante shakes back into my daily routine. At the moment I'm doing two or three shakes and a healthy meal but that's only because I've got some homemade chicken soup and some other low carb bits in the fridge which I'll use up, also it's mum's 80th birthday this weekend so that's going to be food related.
I'm relaxed about things right now food wise and I'll tighten them up again after the b'day celebrations and will probably go to full Exante to drop maybe 12kgs or thereabouts before reintroducing foods.

I'm not back to square one though as my relationship with food has changed and my awareness of what my diabetes is and needs is vastly improved as well.

Weight this morning was 101kg down from 103kg yesterday (give or take a few hundred grams).

 

[Rekhaw]

Thanks ColinUk for your response to my concerns. Briefly my story is:
I was diagnosed about 5 years ago and kept promising to get my glucose and weight under the limits. Last month i had to admit that my attempts were not working and agreed to go on to Metformin. I am not coping well with the tablets and was offered the REWIND programme this week but do not know anything about it. Such as do i have to have the shakes and soups ONLY for the first three months because that would drive me crazy without any Indian food or cooking. Does that mean that i cannot go out with friends etc for a meal.

I wondered if anyone on this forum has any experience of how they cope with these sorts of issues.

 

[Leadinglights]

Thanks ColinUk for your response to my concerns. Briefly my story is:
I was diagnosed about 5 years ago and kept promising to get my glucose and weight under the limits. Last month i had to admit that my attempts were not working and agreed to go on to Metformin. I am not coping well with the tablets and was offered the REWIND programme this week but do not know anything about it. Such as do i have to have the shakes and soups ONLY for the first three months because that would drive me crazy without any Indian food or cooking. Does that mean that i cannot go out with friends etc for a meal.

I wondered if anyone on this forum has any experience of how they cope with these sorts of issues.

It may be that the 'diet' you were following was not as good as you thought it was for managing blood glucose. Have a look at this link for a possible way forward with real food if you like cooking.

Freshwell Low Carb Project - Home

lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk

 

[ColinUK]

Thanks ColinUk for your response to my concerns. Briefly my story is:
I was diagnosed about 5 years ago and kept promising to get my glucose and weight under the limits. Last month i had to admit that my attempts were not working and agreed to go on to Metformin. I am not coping well with the tablets and was offered the REWIND programme this week but do not know anything about it. Such as do i have to have the shakes and soups ONLY for the first three months because that would drive me crazy without any Indian food or cooking. Does that mean that i cannot go out with friends etc for a meal.

I wondered if anyone on this forum has any experience of how they cope with these sorts of issues.

If you're struggling with the metformin then ask to be switched to the slow release version as that's often tolerated much better than the "normal" version.

Yes it's strictly shakes and soups etc for potentially 12 weeks.
It is only 12 weeks.
You can still go out. I certainly have and I've taken my own food/shake with me.
It is only 12 weeks.
You think you can't deal without your Indian food but would you rather do without your leg or your sight?