Weight loss ups and downs - 800 Calorie - Newcastle

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Leadinglights said:
My other half calls it the weekend effect, no justice as eating etc no different so WHY??????
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Ah that’s not the case for me. As I said I overate so it’s self inflicted.
 
Koko is all we can do. 🙂 I've had to give up on the liquid diet, I worked out Slimfast was making me ravenous. Stupidly so. Back to low carb it is then... you're all doing great, keep going.
 
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Been awhile since I updated this....

100.1kg this morning. Now of course there's lots of mitigating circumstances to justify or excuse my weight plateauing (if I'm being generous....).
I've had a holiday, I've had dad in and out of hospital, I've also had to get to grips with a very challenging new therapeutic course from SurvivorsUK as well as repeated disappointment from the Police so I've retreated to comfort foods.
No matter which way I walk back to my front door I pass either a small local supermarket which has lovely bread, or an artisan bakery which smells lovely but doesn't actually appeal.
I've upped my intake of crisps and or hummus although I have to say as far as BG levels go if I opt for "popped" crisps and perhaps a babaganoush type dip instead of hummus then there's minimal impact on levels....

As I've increased exercise, and I'm generally hitting an exercise target 6 days a week most weeks, however I've flicked a switch in my head which says that I can have "treat" food or that I'm "eating back calories" which would be fine if I was 85-90Kg but I'm not so it isn't.

I'm doing lots of work on trauma - how the body holds on to it and how the brain/psyche processes it - and it's clear that my relationship with food is so closely entwined with my sense of self and my struggling to find a way through the trauma(s) I experienced.

Where I am right now is a place where I can weigh up options when I'm making choices about food and that's a good place. It doesn't mean I'm always able to make the healthiest choice or the wisest choice but it does mean that I'm making the best choice I'm capable of making when I make it.
It also means that I'm no longer punishing myself for making "bad" choices. A choice is just a choice. It's not good or bad. It just is.

That has to be positive in supporting my longer term goal of becoming healthier as it removes the binary from food choices and diminishes the tendency to then further punish myself for making so-called bad choices.
If I do find myself making those "bad" choices I can then punish myself for doing so. And it plays straight into the erosion of self-esteem and reinforces the pathways which lead to unwise food choices.

I have a supply of Exante shakes which I will use but I think I'm going to try and use those when I know other options will be limited. I want to rely on "real" food as that's the relationship I want to improve.


Thank you all for your support.
 
ColinUK said:
Been awhile since I updated this....

100.1kg this morning. Now of course there's lots of mitigating circumstances to justify or excuse my weight plateauing (if I'm being generous....).
I've had a holiday, I've had dad in and out of hospital, I've also had to get to grips with a very challenging new therapeutic course from SurvivorsUK as well as repeated disappointment from the Police so I've retreated to comfort foods.
No matter which way I walk back to my front door I pass either a small local supermarket which has lovely bread, or an artisan bakery which smells lovely but doesn't actually appeal.
I've upped my intake of crisps and or hummus although I have to say as far as BG levels go if I opt for "popped" crisps and perhaps a babaganoush type dip instead of hummus then there's minimal impact on levels....

As I've increased exercise, and I'm generally hitting an exercise target 6 days a week most weeks, however I've flicked a switch in my head which says that I can have "treat" food or that I'm "eating back calories" which would be fine if I was 85-90Kg but I'm not so it isn't.

I'm doing lots of work on trauma - how the body holds on to it and how the brain/psyche processes it - and it's clear that my relationship with food is so closely entwined with my sense of self and my struggling to find a way through the trauma(s) I experienced.

Where I am right now is a place where I can weigh up options when I'm making choices about food and that's a good place. It doesn't mean I'm always able to make the healthiest choice or the wisest choice but it does mean that I'm making the best choice I'm capable of making when I make it.
It also means that I'm no longer punishing myself for making "bad" choices. A choice is just a choice. It's not good or bad. It just is.

That has to be positive in supporting my longer term goal of becoming healthier as it removes the binary from food choices and diminishes the tendency to then further punish myself for making so-called bad choices.
If I do find myself making those "bad" choices I can then punish myself for doing so. And it plays straight into the erosion of self-esteem and reinforces the pathways which lead to unwise food choices.

I have a supply of Exante shakes which I will use but I think I'm going to try and use those when I know other options will be limited. I want to rely on "real" food as that's the relationship I want to improve.


Thank you all for your supp
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It is so hard when people give what they think is a good weight when one is a way off that target. It is good though that you are honest and share. I will aim to get lower. Never used shakes and cannot afford to go down that road. It is so so hard and I agree I have to lower my blood sugar and try. I have got through a couple of bad days alone when my usual loneliness comfort is food. Love my garden but of course, I am thinking bad already. the glut of courgettes soon oh I'll make a cake. However, now I am diabetic not a good choice so it is ringing those changes.
 
Nayshiftin said:
It is so hard when people give what they think is a good weight when one is a way off that target. It is good though that you are honest and share. I will aim to get lower. Never used shakes and cannot afford to go down that road. It is so so hard and I agree I have to lower my blood sugar and try. I have got through a couple of bad days alone when my usual loneliness comfort is food. Love my garden but of course, I am thinking bad already. the glut of courgettes soon oh I'll make a cake. However, now I am diabetic not a good choice so it is ringing those changes.
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Here you go
https://www.sweetashoney.co/keto-zucchini-cake/ only 3.2 g carb per slice
 
ColinUK said:
Where I am right now is a place where I can weigh up options when I'm making choices about food and that's a good place. It doesn't mean I'm always able to make the healthiest choice or the wisest choice but it does mean that I'm making the best choice I'm capable of making when I make it.
It also means that I'm no longer punishing myself for making "bad" choices. A choice is just a choice. It's not good or bad. It just is.
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This is key…for me at least…

It’s all about making those choices - each one for me is considered, rather than an ah f** it moment!

This is how I look at food every time I eat - it gets easier the more you do it - and then becomes automatic to a point…

You’re doing great - you have the tools you need, life is life and it throws things at ya, but looks to me like you haven’t gained weight in the last 2 months, so you’re doing well😉

Congratulate yourself!
 
ColinUK said:
Been awhile since I updated this....

100.1kg this morning. Now of course there's lots of mitigating circumstances to justify or excuse my weight plateauing (if I'm being generous....).
I've had a holiday, I've had dad in and out of hospital, I've also had to get to grips with a very challenging new therapeutic course from SurvivorsUK as well as repeated disappointment from the Police so I've retreated to comfort foods.
No matter which way I walk back to my front door I pass either a small local supermarket which has lovely bread, or an artisan bakery which smells lovely but doesn't actually appeal.
I've upped my intake of crisps and or hummus although I have to say as far as BG levels go if I opt for "popped" crisps and perhaps a babaganoush type dip instead of hummus then there's minimal impact on levels....

As I've increased exercise, and I'm generally hitting an exercise target 6 days a week most weeks, however I've flicked a switch in my head which says that I can have "treat" food or that I'm "eating back calories" which would be fine if I was 85-90Kg but I'm not so it isn't.

I'm doing lots of work on trauma - how the body holds on to it and how the brain/psyche processes it - and it's clear that my relationship with food is so closely entwined with my sense of self and my struggling to find a way through the trauma(s) I experienced.

Where I am right now is a place where I can weigh up options when I'm making choices about food and that's a good place. It doesn't mean I'm always able to make the healthiest choice or the wisest choice but it does mean that I'm making the best choice I'm capable of making when I make it.
It also means that I'm no longer punishing myself for making "bad" choices. A choice is just a choice. It's not good or bad. It just is.

That has to be positive in supporting my longer term goal of becoming healthier as it removes the binary from food choices and diminishes the tendency to then further punish myself for making so-called bad choices.
If I do find myself making those "bad" choices I can then punish myself for doing so. And it plays straight into the erosion of self-esteem and reinforces the pathways which lead to unwise food choices.

I have a supply of Exante shakes which I will use but I think I'm going to try and use those when I know other options will be limited. I want to rely on "real" food as that's the relationship I want to improve.


Thank you all for your support.
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Hummus.
My partner is bad for that.
I do make it now, so I can use virgin olive oil rather than the rapeseed in Tescos.
But so many calories!
We have to reign it in at times.
I'll be trying the baba ganoush, but again, full of oil.
 
Nayshiftin said:
Yes there is all those with coconut and almond flour which he will not allow me to buy as he says they are too costly and as hes skinny and not diabetic and fit cake doesn't matter what its made off. sadly
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Looks good, but too much fat and calories for me, and far too much saturated fat for my cholesterol levels!
I put really intense mega calorific food away after the Newcastle diet unfortunately.
 
Kreator said:
This is key…for me at least…

It’s all about making those choices - each one for me is considered, rather than an ah f** it moment!

This is how I look at food every time I eat - it gets easier the more you do it - and then becomes automatic to a point…

You’re doing great - you have the tools you need, life is life and it throws things at ya, but looks to me like you haven’t gained weight in the last 2 months, so you’re doing well😉

Congratulate yourself!
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Honestly this just made me well up.

I'm a daft sod sometimes!
 
travellor said:
Hummus.
My partner is bad for that.
I do make it now, so I can use virgin olive oil rather than the rapeseed in Tescos.
But so many calories!
We have to reign it in at times.
I'll be trying the baba ganoush, but again, full of oil.
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I will only buy the hummus with EVOO but there's a couple of baba ganoush type dips which are sublime. One is either Yarden or Sabra (so it's either by the dips or in the Kosher section) and that's Aubergine Salad - basically it's aubergine in a thin mayonnaise and it's yummy - the other is Waitrose smoked aubergine dip. Waitrose also do a lovely artichoke dip and that's not bad on the carb front.
 
Kreator said:
I This is key…for me at least…

It’s all about making those choices - each one for me is considered, rather than an ah f** it moment!

This is how I look at food every time I eat - it gets easier the more you do it - and then becomes automatic to a point…

You’re doing great - you have the tools you need, life is life and it throws things at ya, but looks to me like you haven’t gained weight in the last 2 months, so you’re doing well😉

Congratulate yourself!
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I am trying to do that and think your moments of the f""""it is my downfall and the guilt is hot oil every time and woe is me i want to die. So it is having the right mindset to step back plan and remember I do have to tell myself I have to live and I can get better and that folks eventually will like and accept me. Thank you again for being so honest.
 
Nayshiftin said:
Yes there is all those with coconut and almond flour which he will not allow me to buy as he says they are too costly and as hes skinny and not diabetic and fit cake doesn't matter what its made off. sadly
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Make courgette pickle with the glut perhaps? Or spiralize it and use it as pasta.
 
ColinUK said:
Make courgette pickle with the glut perhaps? Or spiralize it and use it as pasta.
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has the pickle got sugar in it ? I will use as pasta which wlll help and it eaks out bolognaise a treat
 
Hi Colin

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Maintenance of lost weight and long-term management of obesity

Weight loss can be achieved through a variety of modalities, but long-term maintenance of lost weight is much more challenging. Obesity interventions typically result in early rapid weight loss followed by a weight plateau and progressive regain. This ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Specifically, it has been estimated that for each kilogram of lost weight, calorie expenditure decreases by about 20–30 kcal/d whereas appetite increases by about 100 kcal/d above the baseline level prior to weight loss31. Despite these predictable physiologic phenomena, the typical response of the patient is to blame themselves as lazy or lacking in willpower,

All the evidence is against sustaining weight loss. If you've fixed your diabetes and are exercising more, its a massive win.

My weight is trending up, despite a dramatically improved diet and exercise regime - it is what it is.
I ran a half marathon, which is amazing for me. Celebrate the wins
 
Leadinglights said:
Saturday kitchen best bites had a courgette salad, grated courgette, mint, olive oil, lemon juice, garlic, pecorino, salt and pepper.
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sounds a little bit like a pesto mix
 
Weekender said:
Hi Colin

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Maintenance of lost weight and long-term management of obesity

Weight loss can be achieved through a variety of modalities, but long-term maintenance of lost weight is much more challenging. Obesity interventions typically result in early rapid weight loss followed by a weight plateau and progressive regain. This ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Specifically, it has been estimated that for each kilogram of lost weight, calorie expenditure decreases by about 20–30 kcal/d whereas appetite increases by about 100 kcal/d above the baseline level prior to weight loss31. Despite these predictable physiologic phenomena, the typical response of the patient is to blame themselves as lazy or lacking in willpower,

All the evidence is against sustaining weight loss. If you've fixed your diabetes and are exercising more, its a massive win.

My weight is trending up, despite a dramatically improved diet and exercise regime - it is what it is.
I ran a half marathon, which is amazing for me. Celebrate the wins
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Yes hence I regain and regain I usually have lost some weight before I start I put it back on but I guess where I go wrong is never get to a good enough normal weight.
 
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