trophywench
Well-Known Member
- Relationship to Diabetes
- Type 1
The first thing the poster says to the patient is that everyone is different so here are some suggestions of where to start, not 'This is what you must eat'.
A bubble and squeak frittata? - ie a basin of mashed spud, with some boiled leafy greens chucked in, enough to completely fill the bottom of your frying pan and fried in fat. Ditto a fishcake being more mashed spud, bit of flaked fish, formed into portions with floury hands and again fried in fat. Presumably you don't make em like that so you'd need a huge poster to print the whole recipe on at your surgery. And you're also making the mistake imagining that everyone can cook stuff themselves and is interested in doing so - we know that some can't even be bothered to read the label on eg that tin of Baked Beans before eating it with a fryup or with half a large thick sliced loaf, toasted.
(Why on earth would residents of Penzance and thus registered with a Penzance GP (for whom the poster was produced) ever choose a Ginsters' pasty in the first place when there are far far better local ones available most places in Cornwall? Or to eat a fishcake instead of a nice bit of fresh fish? ie NOT likely to be farmed)
Ancel Keys was comparatively recent in comparison to Type 1s being condemned to death by gradual starvation and failure of all their organs since treatment with exogenous insulin was not yet discovered 100 years ago, since he is post WW2 so not all that long before some of us was born! In any case he was working for the Grain Board in USA trying to get Americans to consume more grain and grain products - which certainly will never assist anyone with diabetes and unsurprisingly was one of the things that helped fuel the increase in diabetes and obesity in the US.
Victorian banting (where banting meant a weight loss diet to achieve a tiny waist to show off the miles of taffeta in your crinoline, obviously) does not appear to me to have any connection with diabetes whatever.
The NHS RDA for carb is 260g for an adult which means I am eating - and have always eaten since before I left school in 1966 - only approx a third of that - and yet OMG here I still am at 71. I do not believe I could eat any more carb than I do, because you'd have to force feed me like the awful way they used to with geese for pate de fois gras. So for me, the NHS can stick their Eatwell plate where the sun don't shine, frankly.
A bubble and squeak frittata? - ie a basin of mashed spud, with some boiled leafy greens chucked in, enough to completely fill the bottom of your frying pan and fried in fat. Ditto a fishcake being more mashed spud, bit of flaked fish, formed into portions with floury hands and again fried in fat. Presumably you don't make em like that so you'd need a huge poster to print the whole recipe on at your surgery. And you're also making the mistake imagining that everyone can cook stuff themselves and is interested in doing so - we know that some can't even be bothered to read the label on eg that tin of Baked Beans before eating it with a fryup or with half a large thick sliced loaf, toasted.
(Why on earth would residents of Penzance and thus registered with a Penzance GP (for whom the poster was produced) ever choose a Ginsters' pasty in the first place when there are far far better local ones available most places in Cornwall? Or to eat a fishcake instead of a nice bit of fresh fish? ie NOT likely to be farmed)
Ancel Keys was comparatively recent in comparison to Type 1s being condemned to death by gradual starvation and failure of all their organs since treatment with exogenous insulin was not yet discovered 100 years ago, since he is post WW2 so not all that long before some of us was born! In any case he was working for the Grain Board in USA trying to get Americans to consume more grain and grain products - which certainly will never assist anyone with diabetes and unsurprisingly was one of the things that helped fuel the increase in diabetes and obesity in the US.
Victorian banting (where banting meant a weight loss diet to achieve a tiny waist to show off the miles of taffeta in your crinoline, obviously) does not appear to me to have any connection with diabetes whatever.
The NHS RDA for carb is 260g for an adult which means I am eating - and have always eaten since before I left school in 1966 - only approx a third of that - and yet OMG here I still am at 71. I do not believe I could eat any more carb than I do, because you'd have to force feed me like the awful way they used to with geese for pate de fois gras. So for me, the NHS can stick their Eatwell plate where the sun don't shine, frankly.
