Oh bother this bloomin' basal!

[aymes]

Sizewell B, Suffolk - some way from me, but I know there have been higher incidents of cancer reported around the power station. Don't know how the statistics for diabetes pan out accross E. Anglia...

I know in Norfolk at least the occurance of type 1 is higher than the UK average, there was an incident a couple of years back when one of the local MPs suggested it was a result of people from this area not 'widening the genetic pool' and being stuck in Norfolk, didn't go down too well!!!!

Norfolk, altho' I'm a Londoner by birth. Been here 30 odd years now, which qualifies me as being a local!

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Hurrrah, another one from Norfolk, there are a fair few of us on these boards!!

 

[Northerner]

...Hurrrah, another one from Norfolk, there are a fair few of us on these boards!!

There do seem to be 'clusters' of us - quite a few in the Hampshire/Dorset area and quite a few up in Merseyside and Scotland

 

[Northerner]

Hi Northerner
Seeing as you had a long run this morning, and you were only 4.3 at tea..excellent reading.. I think you would be safe to drop it another 1 or poss 2 units,depending how you feel..its only my opinion and what i would do for Nathan without any second thoughts. Or as you say stuff yourself..or just have something a little extra and still drop Lantus by 1 unit.
Decisions rather you than me..haha😱

When I was on 20 lantus I would have dropped it by a unit and that seemed to do the trick. But then 1 unit was only 5% of my basal, now that I'm on 9 that translates to 11% of my basal which sounds like a lot to me. Shame I can't drop by half a unit, but considering the battle I had getting a 1 unit pen, that's not going to happen any time soon!😱

 

[bev]

You can get half unit pens Northerner. If you need one i could get one for you - but it would be a junior pen -but it would still take a normal cartridge!

Why cant you get one from your team? Bev

 

[Northerner]

You can get half unit pens Northerner. If you need one i could get one for you - but it would be a junior pen -but it would still take a normal cartridge!

Why cant you get one from your team? Bev

Hi bev, I was alluding to the problems I related under the 'Repeat prescriptions' thread, where it took me several visits to the doctor/pharmacy before they gave me the correct prescription and the correct pen - even though I had given them my exact requirements! I haven't seen a half-unit lantus pen, only the Autopen 24s which are either 1 or 2 unit pens. I am planning on booking an appointment with my DSN soon though, so will ask then - I'm sure they'll have something, but thank you for your kind offer!🙂

Before bed tonight I was 8.6, so I decided I was OK to take the 9 units of lantus - I await the morning reading with interest!😱

 

[runner]

Hi again Runner,
Unfortunately some of the medical profession do not accept stress as any illness, not to many years ago when I was going through a very bad patch, my then doctor said 'stress was in the mind,and a self imagined illness' I personally had never heard such s***e in my life and proceeded to sack him.
In Nathans case, whilst in some respect I accept maybe he would have eventually been diabetic, he as a child was under major stress, the break down of relationship with his dad and in that sept06 started secondary school and the nightmare began, he was ruthlessly bullied to the point he was stabbed with a pencil, deodrant sprayed in eyes the list goes on, to the point i went to education office and the local and national papers. The then head denied any problems, by feb07 nathan had reached crisis point was rushed to hospital in DKA and blood sugar or 48.2 the rest is history, he gave up and his body took over. This still haunts me because as his mother i should have protected him form it. I personally would stand up in any court defy any medical doctor and say open your eyes.
Sorry to go on Runner 🙂

It's the school and the medical team that should have been protecting him - the school should have an anti-bullying policy and should stick to it. They should have protected Nathan. Sadly I knew of a GP, many years ago who was a bit sceptical about depression, but who was excellent in every other respect. He ended up having a major breakdown....

Don't beat yourself up - as parents you can only do the best you can at the time, with the kowledge you have at the time and the emotional strength you have at the time. Onwards and upwards

 

[runner]

Going back to my bloomin' basal, I'm not sure what to do tonight. I went for a fairly long run this morning (in between the downpours!) and have been using less bolus - my levle before evening meal was 4.3. Might risk dropping the lantus a unit to avoid possibility of night hypo - it's either that or stuff my face and go to bed 'high'. Decisions, decisions!😱🙂

How was it this morning?

 

[Northerner]

...Before bed tonight I was 8.6, so I decided I was OK to take the 9 units of lantus - I await the morning reading with interest!😱

I ws 5.4 this morning, so it looks like 9 was OK. Just had a look back through my diary and that 8.6 was my highest reading for two weeks! Also had a look at my readings, using my meter software. Over the past 6 months my average level has been 5.68 with 8% of the readings hypos, which I'm pretty pleased about - sorry to show off!

 

[runner]

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Hurrrah, another one from Norfolk, there are a fair few of us on these boards!![/QUOTE]

'Ello my little Norfolk Dumplings! I wonder if this reflects the rate of diabetes here, or that we are apparently one of the biggest users (proportionately - and in numbers, not size!) of the web- eBay in particular.

 

[runner]

I ws 5.4 this morning, so it looks like 9 was OK. Just had a look back through my diary and that 8.6 was my highest reading for two weeks! Also had a look at my readings, using my meter software. Over the past 6 months my average level has been 5.68 with 8% of the readings hypos, which I'm pretty pleased about - sorry to show off!

Well done and Grrr 😡 - mine was 8.3 this am altho it ws 6. something during the night. My average level is still 8 something. Watch those hypos - it can affect your brain (memory) apparently (I can't afford to loose any more cells )

 

[sofaraway]

you can't get a half unit pen for lantus. only for levemir/novorapid

well done on your levels Alan they really are fantastic

 

[Northerner]

you can't get a half unit pen for lantus. only for levemir/novorapid

Seems silly to me that you have to use different pens for different insulins, unless it's supposed to stop you from injecting the wrong stuff. Am I on a particularly low dose of Lantus then (9 units)? If half a unit of levemir can make a difference, why not lantus?

well done on your levels Alan they really are fantastic

Thanks, m'dear! 🙂

 

[runner]

Seems silly to me that you have to use different pens for different insulins, unless it's supposed to stop you from injecting the wrong stuff. Am I on a particularly low dose of Lantus then (9 units)? If half a unit of levemir can make a difference, why not lantus?

Don't know if it's low - My average is 11, but have increased to 13 over last week or two because of physical inactivity, and overwork. Hope to go back to normal over next few weeks.

 

[sasha1]

Seems silly to me that you have to use different pens for different insulins, unless it's supposed to stop you from injecting the wrong stuff. Am I on a particularly low dose of Lantus then (9 units)? If half a unit of levemir can make a difference, why not lantus?



Thanks, m'dear! 🙂

Hi Notherner,

Thats a spot on reading for morning, and a good reading going to bed to,
I cant say if your on a particularly low dose of Lantus or not, but its working for you brill, and everyones insulin needs are different, as we are all aware.
Nathan takes 45 units of Lantus at the moment, but thats to do with his age, hormones etc, and teenagers do require substantially more insulin than adults, he was however on 62 units just over 3 weeks ago. It swings up and down.
Today he been exceptionally high 17.4 at tea, just checked him for ketones and he has a trace, will see how he goes over the next few hours 😡.
Anyway, how the rest of your day been

Heidi

 

[Northerner]

Hi Notherner,

Thats a spot on reading for morning, and a good reading going to bed to,
I cant say if your on a particularly low dose of Lantus or not, but its working for you brill, and everyones insulin needs are different, as we are all aware.
Nathan takes 45 units of Lantus at the moment, but thats to do with his age, hormones etc, and teenagers do require substantially more insulin than adults, he was however on 62 units just over 3 weeks ago. It swings up and down.
Today he been exceptionally high 17.4 at tea, just checked him for ketones and he has a trace, will see how he goes over the next few hours 😡.
Anyway, how the rest of your day been

Heidi

My total insulin has fallen from around 60 units a day to around 35. Didn't I read somewhere that the slow-acting should be 50% of your fast-acting? That was true before (40 NR/20 lantus), but not quite now (26 NR/9 lantus - more like 33%).

I feel I have been so lucky in getting this at my time of life, given that I obviously have the pre-disposition for it. It must be so difficult as a young person with everything else that's going on - I was able to enjoy my youth relatively care free. I do hope that Nathan gets into some kind of settled, 'in range' levels soon!

I'm Mr Perfect-Levels today, I was 4.8 before lunch and 4.1 before evening meal, so I'm getting the food/activity/insulin thing pretty much spot on - for today, at least! Goodness knows how, and am currently feeling as I might have underestimated the NR for my huge chicken curry, apple pie and custard...(and three squares of chocolate...and some nuts...)😱🙂

 

[sasha1]

My total insulin has fallen from around 60 units a day to around 35. Didn't I read somewhere that the slow-acting should be 50% of your fast-acting? That was true before (40 NR/20 lantus), but not quite now (26 NR/9 lantus - more like 33%).

I feel I have been so lucky in getting this at my time of life, given that I obviously have the pre-disposition for it. It must be so difficult as a young person with everything else that's going on - I was able to enjoy my youth relatively care free. I do hope that Nathan gets into some kind of settled, 'in range' levels soon!

I'm Mr Perfect-Levels today, I was 4.8 before lunch and 4.1 before evening meal, so I'm getting the food/activity/insulin thing pretty much spot on - for today, at least! Goodness knows how, and am currently feeling as I might have underestimated the NR for my huge chicken curry, apple pie and custard...(and three squares of chocolate...and some nuts...)😱🙂

Hiya,
I seem to remember reading or being told that, Nathans ration is about 50/50, but that said it can alter as you say to about 33%..
It take's hard and determinerd work to acheive those levels, and deffinately something to be proud of🙂
Bless on the NR. main thing is you enjoyed your tea..p.s..that sounds mighty tasty though
Heidi

 

[Northerner]

...Bless on the NR. main thing is you enjoyed your tea..p.s..that sounds mighty tasty though
Heidi

It was, and all home made!🙂

 

[Pigeon]

Hi Northerner, I only take 9 units Lantus too, so I don't think it's that unusual to take that little - although everyone else on my DAFNE course was taking about 40! I often thought a half unit autopen would be useful - I have a junior novopen (goes up in half units) and it's quite handy, especially when I'm being indecisive about how many carbs in a meal! It's also a bit more snazzy looking than the adult version!

 

[Northerner]

Hi Northerner, I only take 9 units Lantus too, so I don't think it's that unusual to take that little - although everyone else on my DAFNE course was taking about 40! I often thought a half unit autopen would be useful - I have a junior novopen (goes up in half units) and it's quite handy, especially when I'm being indecisive about how many carbs in a meal! It's also a bit more snazzy looking than the adult version!

We're lantus twins! On the course I went on there was a guy on 60 lantus and a girl on 5! She was also on half units of novorapid, but I think she was honeymooning. Really brought home to me how different everyone is with diabetes!

My bedtime reading tonight was 8.6 again.

 

[katie]

you could be honeymooning northerner.