Mental health / Gratitude

ColinUK said:
I once lost complete respect for a therapist in group therapy.
We were talking about sex stuff and I said something about an experience I’d had and there was a very audible, very judgemental intake a breath from her when I did.

I’ve also had a locum GP tell me that in order to deal with my MH I should turn my life to Jesus.

They’re no longer practicing.
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It's unbelieveable some of the stories. I phoned 111 recently, by the third call I was told I worry too much. While simutaneusly being told by my GP's practice that I don't let them know of new symptoms soon enough. I guess this is life.
 
ColinUK said:
I once lost complete respect for a therapist in group therapy.
We were talking about sex stuff and I said something about an experience I’d had and there was a very audible, very judgemental intake a breath from her when I did.

I’ve also had a locum GP tell me that in order to deal with my MH I should turn my life to Jesus.

They’re no longer practicing.
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I don't know the context of what was meant by turning your life to Jesus, but loosely speaking, I'd take that to mean, being responsible to a large extent for you own health. Managing your own health, certainly applies to managing diabetes. Mental health too, really requires self, inner work rather just relying on drugs or advice from the "experts". The few stories I know of Jesus are usually about non-judgement, listening etc.
 
Amity Island said:
I don't know the context of what was meant by turning your life to Jesus, but loosely speaking, I'd take that to mean, being responsible to a large extent for you own health. Managing your own health, certainly applies to managing diabetes. Mental health too, really requires self, inner work rather just relying on drugs or advice from the "experts". The few stories I know of Jesus are usually about non-judgement, listening etc.
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The context was this was a GP in an NHS surgery, faced with a Jewish patient in the depths of despair, thinking it was the right thing to do to suggest praying to Jesus.
 
ColinUK said:
The context was this was a GP in an NHS surgery, faced with a Jewish patient in the depths of despair, thinking it was the right thing to do to suggest praying to Jesus.
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Religion is one of those subjects. Can get very serious real quick. I think in the main they mean well and I'm sure they are just trying to spread the good news. But I'm afraid some can get pushy. I spent some time with the Jehovah Witness's studying the bible. They were the nicest bunch of people I've ever met. By way far. But ultimately it wasn't for me and they moved onto someone else, which was fair enough.
 
RichardsUsername said:
Religion is one of those subjects. Can get very serious real quick. I think in the main they mean well and I'm sure they are just trying to spread the good news. But I'm afraid some can get pushy. I spent some time with the Jehovah Witness's studying the bible. They were the nicest bunch of people I've ever met. By way far. But ultimately it wasn't for me and they moved onto someone else, which was fair enough.
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Agree completely. There are some great stories/logia in the bible etc which still stand true today. Nothing wrong with not judging others or in helping a neighbour. Timing and the situation is clearly important!
 
Amity Island said:
I don't know the context of what was meant by turning your life to Jesus, but loosely speaking, I'd take that to mean, being responsible to a large extent for you own health.
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I wouldn’t take it to mean that at all, I’d take it that the person was thinking along the lines that embracing Christianity would solve my problems. Wholly inappropriate in a GP surgery setting (and a whole bunch of other places as well).
 
Robin said:
I wouldn’t take it to mean that at all, I’d take it that the person was thinking along the lines that embracing Christianity would solve my problems. Wholly inappropriate in a GP surgery setting (and a whole bunch of other places as well).
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Robin, I agree, I was just trying to offer a broader meaning behind the experience. Yes, inappropriate at the time, but on reflection, I feel there was "some" value or positive intent in the advice.
 
Amity Island said:
Robin, I agree, I was just trying to offer a broader meaning behind the experience. Yes, inappropriate at the time, but on reflection, I feel there was "some" value or positive intent in the advice.
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If my gp said turn to Jesus I'd just politely say I'm not interested. But then I can be very laid back. I would also be surprised.
 
Unless you are a Messianic Jew then you would deny that Jesus is anyone to turn too.
A GP or medical person is not allowed to share their faith. My brother in law was accused of being a religious fanatic which was causing his mental health.
Perhaps the forgive and move on which is the Christian point they meant however they were really not following protocol or being kind.
I am afraid I sympathise what you you went through. Its too difficult and deep to empathise with you Colin but I believe it happened and I wish I could say the right words. I hear you and wish you to be able to get through this.
Mental Health is part of a person and this diabetes site looks at the individual not just as a count of heads with diabetes. It too has allowed me to vent as I feel diabetes and the medication and change of diet does get one down .
Support is great and I am thankful .
 
I have found that the ......there is help out there ! .......message is mostly happy clappy

My experience is that when you really need support the NHS either doesn't provide it or its very patchy and hit and miss

It's absolutely shameful that you have to wait months and months to see a specialist or one of his or her team

You are desperate , every day is torture and full of despair and you will be assessed by a mental health worker in 6 months ?

That's so pathetic it's funny
 
ColinUK said:
It reminds me of something I read once. I think it was probably Gwyneth Lewis maybe. Anyway she likened her depression to looking at the world through grey tinted glasses. She also said that even on the cloudiest of days the sun is still shining bright above those clouds. It’s still there but it’s just that we can’t see it. But those clouds will pass. They always pass eventually. And the sunlight streams down again.
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Unfortunately, my wifes 'clouds' seem to just get darker and darker. Right now she is in a very confused, dark place. Tomorrow may be good or bad as she is to be assessed again. It will be terribly stressful for me and utterly devastating to her. But it has to be done as her mental health has become much much worse.

Why? Because, like some who have MH issues, she believes she is well or that the meds are poisoning her and she stopped taking them. Result...disaster. Been there before and it resulted in her being 'hospitalised'. Right now it feels like we are in the worst, darkest place possible. Tomorrow she will be assessed again. One thing is certain. She did not ask to be ill and, sadly, she is constantly frightened/terrified and cannot help herself.

Sorry, I rambled a bit there. But to be honest I am a the end of my tether, tired, sad, worriied... etc

Her clouds never seem to pass...

And just to make things a whole lot worse there does not seem to be any support for me.

I could scream 'GIVE ME A BREAK' but of course, there is no break. Sigh :(
 
Gwynn said:
Unfortunately, my wifes 'clouds' seem to just get darker and darker. Right now she is in a very confused, dark place. Tomorrow may be good or bad as she is to be assessed again. It will be terribly stressful for me and utterly devastating to her. But it has to be done as her mental health has become much much worse.

Why? Because, like some who have MH issues, she believes she is well or that the meds are poisoning her and she stopped taking them. Result...disaster. Been there before and it resulted in her being 'hospitalised'. Right now it feels like we are in the worst, darkest place possible. Tomorrow she will be assessed again. One thing is certain. She did not ask to be ill and, sadly, she is constantly frightened/terrified and cannot help herself.

Sorry, I rambled a bit there. But to be honest I am a the end of my tether, tired, sad, worriied... etc

Her clouds never seem to pass...

And just to make things a whole lot worse there does not seem to be any support for me.

I could scream 'GIVE ME A BREAK' but of course, there is no break. Sigh :(
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It is hard for your wife and you as it affects you both. I hope some help comes quickly
to help you both. MH doesn't give anyone a break and one cannot snap out of it . Wish I could help.
 
@Gwynn I hope today is easier for both of you.
 
So, so sorry to hear how difficult a place you are both in @Gwynn

Hope the assessment offers some additional support for you, and gets some treatment for your wife.

Are you getting any help of support as a carer? Are there services you could access to give you a breather?
 
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