0 carbers? Carnivores?

Inka said:
Concern? I wouldn’t recommend the diet to anyone as I feel it’s a bad choice health-wise. You can eat whatever you want but I think I and others feel obliged to highlight the possible cons of such a diet, which are caused by a) the lack of plants; and b) the amounts of protein and saturated fat.

Have you used something like MyFitnessPal to count your daily calories and carbs over a period of a couple of weeks or so? Are you able to take any exercise at all? Are you on any other meds that might be causing you to put on or retain weight?
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I cycle on my indoor bike as much as I can thru the leg pain. I'd like to do more but I still have to climb my stairs several times a day so I can't go getting my legs to the point of much more pain.
I'm on 3 blood pressure meds, 2 insulins, ozempic, metformin.
I have a diabetes app my family got me a few years ago. I think it'd called mynetdiary d
The diabetes version.
 
I do not have enuf for meat and vegetables every day. Not both.
Well if I were to have maybe 1 carrot and half a chicken breast a day maybe. But that sounds like less calories and food then I eat now. Carrots are 2 pounds for $3. A chicken breast maybe $4. Sometimes $5. I just don't know how to figure it out.
So I get cans of soup on sale for 1.97 to $3. Hopefully enuf cans to avoid the $4 and up cans. Until they come on sale again.
Because a plain mashed up half a chicken breast and a carrot sounds awful. I mean to get flavors requires spices at nearly $3 a pk. I know they last a long time but that means 1 days food gone.
 
Putting aside any certain kind of diet such as a carnivore one, what would people here in this group eat for 3 dollars a day???
 
Tuesday said:
Putting aside any certain kind of diet such as a carnivore one, what would people here in this group eat for 3 dollars a day???
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It’s hard to compare @Tuesday because it would depend what the average wage in Canada was, etc - ie what would be the monetary equivalent of those 3CAD in GBP?
 
Tuesday said:
Putting aside any certain kind of diet such as a carnivore one, what would people here in this group eat for 3 dollars a day???
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I’m not sure if anything here will be helpful in Canada, but this older thread had suggestions from members on trying to reduce money spent on food:

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Thread 'Money saving tips on food'

Anyone think it's worth sharing tips on saving money on food?

My first one is never binning anything.
Any leftovers, veg, meat, gravy, stock, ( I don't eat puddings), all gets saved throughout the week, then recycled in a chilli or curry at the end of the week, with anything else that needs using, plus whatever else I have to use up, and other ingredients to finish it off.

The second one is an app called "Too good to go"
Which I only found today, but seems to be an app that lets you buy a mixed bag of short dates food items.
As it's a mixed bag it may not suit everyone, but could be...
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Let me know if you’d like the thread unlocked for new replies @Tuesday
 
Inka said:
It’s hard to compare @Tuesday because it would depend what the average wage in Canada was, etc - ie what would be the monetary equivalent of those 3CAD in GBP?
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I think it would be about £1.70 so really not a lot but presumably you can start the week with $21 and shop for the week, so you could buy half a dozen eggs and some tinned produce and some veg and some dairy and then make meals out of those varied ingredients rather than looking at buying any one day's food for £1.70.
Are you just catering for yourself or is the $3 your portion of a larger family budget, so that you could buy more varied produce with a bigger budget but make more meals out of it for all the family?
I can make a whole cabbage last a week with various other bits and bobs and make multiple meals out of it and that costs about 70pence here full price but you can sometimes get them on special offer. I buy a salami or bacon and add it to the cooked cabbage with a bit of chilli sauce Butternut squash is also great and you can make soups and stews and curries out of it and it is lower carb than potatoes and keeps incredibly well, so you can buy when reduced. A net of onions will usually last a couple of weeks and help make numerous tasty meals.
You might have set me a challenge, to see what I can come up with for a week, but of course I have some store cupboard staples like spices that I am guessing you don't.

I hadn't realised that you are suggesting the insulin is causing the diarrhoea or has Mike picked that up wrong? Do you also take Metformin which is far more likely to cause those issues? Can you explain the problems you are having with insulin? I understand that you feel it is preventing you from losing weight and clearly you have a lot of insulin resistance if you need 100u of Toujeo daily. How much weight do you currently need to lose if you don't mind me asking? Did you put all the weight back on that you so wonderfully managed to lose? Well done on that by the way! If you are only having a couple of cups of soup a day at about 50g carbs total then you are already eating "low carb" unless you are also drinking quite a few carbs maybe with squash or lots of milky tea or coffee or soda? Just trying to understand your situation more fully. How much Trurapi do you need to inject for the soup? ie. What sort of ratio do you have and what sort of readings do you get before meals? What happens if you reduce the Toujeo? Sometimes, the more insulin you inject, the more insulin resistance builds up and then .... the more you need so it can become a vicious cycle.
 
Yes, £1.70 is the exchange rate value but I was thinking about comparable to earnings in case there was a big difference between Canada and the U.K.? Will Google!

Edited to add that one site suggested that food was more expensive in Canada, taking into account various parameters. The data was a bit too much for a simple question like Tuesday’s.

@Tuesday I’d go for dried/frozen foods and try to shop where cheapest, eg local suppliers. Pulses are cheap. Rather than fresh tomatoes, you could go for tinned. You could also look at tinned fish rather than fresh.

You must have severe insulin resistance if you can’t lose weight on your minimal food intake. You mention you think the insulin is giving you leg pain - can you ask to change to a different insulin? Some types of insulin simply don’t suit some people, and side effects can include fatigue, aching muscles and joints, stomach problems and more.
 
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Tuesday said:
I do not have enuf for meat and vegetables every day. Not both.
Well if I were to have maybe 1 carrot and half a chicken breast a day maybe. But that sounds like less calories and food then I eat now. Carrots are 2 pounds for $3. A chicken breast maybe $4. Sometimes $5. I just don't know how to figure it out.
So I get cans of soup on sale for 1.97 to $3. Hopefully enuf cans to avoid the $4 and up cans. Until they come on sale again.
Because a plain mashed up half a chicken breast and a carrot sounds awful. I mean to get flavors requires spices at nearly $3 a pk. I know they last a long time but that means 1 days food gone.
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Why are you buying the most expensive part of the chicken?
I used to take advantage of the interest free interval on credit cards to make purchases when on a weekly wage, which meant an overall saving month on month.
It really pays to make even the smallest saving as, over time they add up quite significantly.
 
Inka said:
@Tuesday Would you qualify for gastric band/sleeve surgery for free? You’re clearly having a hard time and I wonder if you qualify for that kind of help at all.
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I qualify and was offered to go on a waiting list but I'm not able to be knocked out. Even if I get sedated the hospital puts me in surgery recovery for 3 hours to monitor my breathing. I would have loved to get the weight loss surgery.
 
Drummer said:
Why are you buying the most expensive part of the chicken?
I used to take advantage of the interest free interval on credit cards to make purchases when on a weekly wage, which meant an overall saving month on month.
It really pays to make even the smallest saving as, over time they add up quite significantly.
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There seems to be only a few bites on other chicken parts and if that's all the protein I got that day breast might offer more. And my family did the calculations and boneless chicken breast turned out to be cheaper per pound due to no waste from no bone.
 
rebrascora said:
I think it would be about £1.70 so really not a lot but presumably you can start the week with $21 and shop for the week, so you could buy half a dozen eggs and some tinned produce and some veg and some dairy and then make meals out of those varied ingredients rather than looking at buying any one day's food for £1.70.
Are you just catering for yourself or is the $3 your portion of a larger family budget, so that you could buy more varied produce with a bigger budget but make more meals out of it for all the family?
I can make a whole cabbage last a week with various other bits and bobs and make multiple meals out of it and that costs about 70pence here full price but you can sometimes get them on special offer. I buy a salami or bacon and add it to the cooked cabbage with a bit of chilli sauce Butternut squash is also great and you can make soups and stews and curries out of it and it is lower carb than potatoes and keeps incredibly well, so you can buy when reduced. A net of onions will usually last a couple of weeks and help make numerous tasty meals.
You might have set me a challenge, to see what I can come up with for a week, but of course I have some store cupboard staples like spices that I am guessing you don't.

I hadn't realised that you are suggesting the insulin is causing the diarrhoea or has Mike picked that up wrong? Do you also take Metformin which is far more likely to cause those issues? Can you explain the problems you are having with insulin? I understand that you feel it is preventing you from losing weight and clearly you have a lot of insulin resistance if you need 100u of Toujeo daily. How much weight do you currently need to lose if you don't mind me asking? Did you put all the weight back on that you so wonderfully managed to lose? Well done on that by the way! If you are only having a couple of cups of soup a day at about 50g carbs total then you are already eating "low carb" unless you are also drinking quite a few carbs maybe with squash or lots of milky tea or coffee or soda? Just trying to understand your situation more fully. How much Trurapi do you need to inject for the soup? ie. What sort of ratio do you have and what sort of readings do you get before meals? What happens if you reduce the Toujeo? Sometimes, the more insulin you inject, the more insulin resistance builds up and then .... the more you need so it can become a vicious cycle.
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I need to lose alot as I've only come down from 300 to 240 pounds. So far keeping it off but the 10 I regained , originally lost to 240 pounds. So at 250 now.

I drink no sugar no sweetener added flavored carbonated water or other drinks like that. 1 Coffee with stevia and 10 percent cream.

It's only me I buy for. We are on different diets. My family is an adult.

It's not known what's causing the diarea. It's been an issue for many years having gotten worse in the last 2 years. I began metformin 1 month ago.

My ratio the last I checked was 1 to 3. 1 unit insulin to 3 grams of carbs.

I do not know how much trurapi I need for my soup. I do not know the before and after meal numbers. When i was measuring i was too distressed to see bad numbers despite all the meds. I rarely use trurapi as it causes foot cramps at night when I need to sleep.

If I reduce the toujeo I enter the 218 to 273 numbers (12 to 15).
Fasting or otherwise. When I told this to my dr he said keep increasing it to reach 4 to 7 fasting (73 to 127) when I get up.
But it appears to drop below 4 (73) at more than 100 units. So idk what's going on.
The toujeo causes leg pain which stops within one week of stopping it.
And toujeo causes me ravenous hunger even when I was able to eat 3x a day .
 
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Tuesday said:
There seems to be only a few bites on other chicken parts and if that's all the protein I got that day breast might offer more. And my family did the calculations and boneless chicken breast turned out to be cheaper per pound due to no waste from no bone.
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Personally, I find chicken thigh to be most economical and tastier than breast - probably because there is some fat in the thigh which helps keep it moist during cooking.

I have no idea about in Canada, but here in UK we also have something called Community Fridge.

I hadn't heard of it until a few months ago, when I noticed there was always a queue in a particular place (on a school boundary) late/mid morning. Looking it up it is described as 'community fridge' is a space with fridges and freezers that enables local people and businesses to donate fresh, good-quality surplus food that would otherwise be wasted. The donated food is then made freely available for local people to come and collect at no cost."

Again, this link is to the UK, but it could be worth looking to see if anything like this exists:

hubbub.org.uk

Community Fridge Network - Hubbub

A Community Fridge brings people together to eat, connect, learn new skills and reduce food waste. Find a fridge near you or get support to set one up.
hubbub.org.uk
 
Inka said:
Yes, £1.70 is the exchange rate value but I was thinking about comparable to earnings in case there was a big difference between Canada and the U.K.? Will Google!

Edited to add that one site suggested that food was more expensive in Canada, taking into account various parameters. The data was a bit too much for a simple question like Tuesday’s.

@Tuesday I’d go for dried/frozen foods and try to shop where cheapest, eg local suppliers. Pulses are cheap. Rather than fresh tomatoes, you could go for tinned. You could also look at tinned fish rather than fresh.

You must have severe insulin resistance if you can’t lose weight on your minimal food intake. You mention you think the insulin is giving you leg pain - can you ask to change to a different insulin? Some types of insulin simply don’t suit some people, and side effects can include fatigue, aching muscles and joints, stomach problems and more.
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I'm thinking of maybe requesting a switch to tresiba when I have my phone appt. in a few weeks.
 
I also have a diagnosed eating disorder which I have to fight daily. So the carb tracking and insulin calculations make it so much worse.
It will never heal with so much food and meds to track with diabetes. But I have the diabetes and can't fix that.
But eating once a day helps too having less to track when/if I do track. So I can try to let go once I eat. It's just that it really doesn't work out that way cause I know what I ate is bad. For BP or bs. Maybe even the high cholesterol.
This is why-- all these issues-- make me feel hopeless. I have no control over them.
 
Tuesday said:
I need to lose alot as I've only come down from 300 to 240 pounds. So far keeping it off but the 10 I regained , originally lost to 240 pounds. So at 250 now.

I drink no sugar no sweetener added flavored carbonated water or other drinks like that. 1 Coffee with stevia and 10 percent cream.

It's only me I buy for. We are on different diets. My family is an adult.

It's not known what's causing the diarea. It's been an issue for many years having gotten worse in the last 2 years. I began metformin 1 month ago.

My ratio the last I checked was 1 to 3. 1 unit insulin to 3 grams of carbs.

I do not know how much trurapi I need for my soup. I do not know the before and after meal numbers. When i was measuring i was too distressed to see bad numbers despite all the meds. I rarely use trurapi as it causes foot cramps at night when I need to sleep.

If I reduce the toujeo I enter the 218 to 273 numbers (12 to 15).
Fasting or otherwise. When I told this to my dr he said keep increasing it to reach 4 to 7 fasting (73 to 127) when I get up.
But it appears to drop below 4 (73) at more than 100 units. So idk what's going on.
The toujeo causes leg pain which stops within one week of stopping it.
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Have you tried magnesium gel rubbed into your calves before bed? It really helps with cramps.

Try not to see the numbers as bad. They’re just bits of information to guide us in our decisions. Look, assess, react - and forget the ‘bad’ number. It’s just a number, not a judgement 🙂

A different insulin is worth a try. See every tiny win as a step forward.
 
rebrascora said:
I hadn't realised that you are suggesting the insulin is causing the diarrhoea or has Mike picked that up wrong?
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I thought @Tuesday suspected the insulin may be responsible for significant leg pain and aches?
 
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