What did you eat yesterday?

[Kaylz]

I couldn't really comment on going "back to a high carb diet" I never left a carby diet, never counted carbs, and wouldn't intend to in the future.
For me, it's an easy choice.
Eat normally, watch the weight.
And by doing that, I have no issue with carbs.

Have you ever tested your BG??

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Have you ever tested your BG??

I always used to.
I was very well supported by my GP, and got them on prescription.
After a couple of years of normal Hba1c's and being taken off meds, they stopped.
I don't bother now, I just have the annual checkup.
I have online access to my medical records, I have enough blood test results to fill 3 sheets of A4 every year, and I
accept it's all good.
How many other non diabetics test?

Before you ask, when I was diagnosed, I tested 1 hour and 2 hours after a meal, morning, afternoon, in bed, out of bed, before exercise, after exercise, and I knew my response inside out.
GI and GL seemed to be my answer for control. I built up a low GI range of foods.
That achieved good control, but I didn't simply want to stick a plaster over the problem with a weird diet.

Diabetes to me was down to the fact I'd eaten myself into it, so I did the Newcastle diet, which had just hit the news and that was the game changer.
Now I eat normally.
I keep the weight off, and it's all good.
Maybe I could test still, but to me, with totally normal blood results across the board for years, that would seem paranoid.

 

[Kaylz]

@travellor so your stating your non diabetic but also describe yourself as type 2 and post on a diabetes forum? That doesnt make much sense

 

[Deleted member 21371]

@travellor so your stating your non diabetic but also describe yourself as type 2 and post on a diabetes forum? That doesnt make much sense

I can't comment on that.
Maybe we need to get the admin to have "type 2 reversed" as an option?

If, as a type 2 who has successfully reversed their condition I'm proud to be able to help others down the same path, regardless of what label others need to put on me.
That's just me though.

I see you are a type 1.
Amy advise to us type 2's gratefully received.
But this isn't helping this thread, so maybe you can start a new one to discuss it further.

 

[Kaylz]

I see you are a type 1.
Amy advise to us type 2's gratefully received.

Yes I'm Type 1
General advice given to Type 2's here are to reduce carbohydrate intake seen as that's what diabetics and pre-diabetics stuggle to tolerate as they all turn to glucose in the body, that works for most but they have to stick to it rather than being able to revert back to an unhealthy carb ladden diet, there are even Type 2's here who have done that yet still ended up as insulin dependant so your fad diets arent miracles

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Yes I'm Type 1
General advice given to Type 2's here are to reduce carbohydrate intake seen as that's what diabetics and pre-diabetics stuggle to tolerate as they all turn to glucose in the body, that works for most but they have to stick to it rather than being able to revert back to an unhealthy carb ladden diet, there are even Type 2's here who have done that yet still ended up as insulin dependant so your fad diets arent miracles

Random "one diet fits all" advice doesn't work

Start a new thread, we can discuss it as much as you want to.

 

[Kaylz]

Random "one diet fits all" advice doesn't work

Start a new thread, we can discuss it as much as you want to.

No thanks, don't really care too much just don't want poor newbies coming along and reading your menu thinking that its a perfectly fine way to go about diabetes cause they'll find out the hard way that its not, especially that amount of carbs as a breakfast seen as thats when most are most insulin resistant

 

[Deleted member 21371]

No thanks, don't really care too much just don't want poor newbies coming along and reading your menu thinking that its a perfectly fine way to go about diabetes cause they'll find out the hard way that its not, especially that amount of carbs as a breakfast seen as thats when most are most insulin resistant

Don't blame you.
Personally, I hate to think newbies getting sucked into the downward spiral of fear that diabetes is for life and low carb is the only way....

So, today.
Cheesie scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast.
Tinned mackerel fillets on seeded buns for lunch, with a salad.
Chilli beef on Basmati rice for dinner
Cheese on biscuits now with a very nice red wine.

Newbies have hope there is a very bright light at the end of the tunnel for them, and the roll out of the 800 calorie diet can guide them there?
I'm sure as a type 1 you would agree that the way forward is reversal for type 2's?
Not stuck with type 2 for life?
Who would wish that on someone if they could avoid it?

 

[Deleted member 27171]

I think the original point of this thread was just to post what everyone is eating each day, without judgement or suggestion that anything is right or wrong, from what I can see there is a wide variety of meals and meal types among the posts - some healthy, some not so much with a variety of carb content.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I think the original point of this thread was just to post what everyone is eating each day, without judgement or suggestion that anything is right or wrong, from what I can see there is a wide variety of meals and meal types among the posts - some healthy, some not so much with a variety of carb content.

What is a healthy diet?

 

[Kaylz]

I wasn't judging, was just curious at to how a Type 2 could manage that amount of carbs without a terrible spike when even Type 1's with the benefit of insulin wouldn't generally manage that very successfuly xx

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I wasn't judging, was just curious at to how a Type 2 could manage that amount of carbs without a terrible spike when even Type 1's with the benefit of insulin wouldn't generally manage that very successfuly xx

it seemed DUK have a limit too, so it may be an interesting discussion, but I really would prefer to start a new post on our different viewpoints to be honest, as this is way off thread.

 

[Deleted member 27171]

What is a healthy diet?

Open to interpretation, but mine would be one which includes a mixture of foods groups and limited added sugars or deep fried foods.

 

[rebrascora]

I am not sure how helpful this thread is, particularly for newbies looking to see what other diabetics eat when there is such a huge range of approaches.
I think it may be helpful for people to post portion size for carb rich foods like breakfast cereal/porridge/granola, pasta, rice potatoes and most of us will be weighing them anyway. I also think it may be helpful to include insulin boluses, so that non insulin using diabetics can immediately see which menus are enabled by insulin and which are more aimed at purely dietary control.

@travellor I appreciate you are keen to promote the Newcastle Rapid weight loss method and show that reversal is possible but many new members reading your posts here will not be aware of that and perhaps think that a sausage roll sandwich for breakfast will be OK for them to help them manage their diabetes, particularly as you are registered as Type2.
There is already so much conflicting/confusing information about diet that seeing a menu like that without some clarification is a bit misleading. Many newbies are directed to this thread for dietary suggestions so I do think it is a tad unhelpful without at least some qualifying signature line to the effect that you did 8 weeks (or whatever period) of an extreme weight loss diet in order to now enjoy normal food.

 

[Kaylz]

@rebrascora I used to include the carb content and insulin doses for my menu but it became I was the only insulin dependant posting so didn't see a point as others just didn't get it at all and I felt I was wasting my time but others as well as they weren't/wouldn't be interested
xx

 

[rebrascora]

@Kaylz
My thought it that if you are Type 2 and you read it, you might not understand it but at least it highlights that insulin is involved and therefore the menu may not be appropriate.
I think portion size is relevant to everyone, because it highlights a need to weight carb rich foods and in a world where portion size has got out of control, seeing that people only have something like 25g of low carb Granola when the portion size on the packet may be 40g gives people a better understanding of reducing portion size to control diabetes and what you can add to bulk it outwith other things.
I know I don't post here very often which is mostly because my diet/lifestyle is still chaotic and some days I just graze on low carb snacks all day which is not really what we want to promote, but when I have a good day, food wise, I like to share it. I don't think it is necessary to post regularly but more to show newbies what a good diabetic diet might look like and perhaps to inspire people to try different things and be a bit more adventurous.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I think it’s important to remember that while low and very low carb eating plans are often recommended and suggested here, there are lots of individuals (of all types) using all sorts of approaches to foods.

I think at the end of the day it boils down to everyone’s balance between tastes, diet flexibility/sustainability, and BG outcomes (however they are monitored). And letting others choose their own path.

Sometimes I think those who find higher carb approaches suit them better - either tastewise or psychologically - tend to be a little cautious in sharing for fear of upsetting or provoking others? In a way I think that the variety of approaches is one of the strengths of our community - and offers hope to any new members who instinctively think ‘I couldn’t eat like that long term’ about any one approach.

As an example for me my meals would usually be:
Breakfast: 25-45g Carbs
Lunch: 55-65g Carbs
Evening: 60-120g Carbs

We have T2s on the forum who eat moderate rather than low carb, but I think they tend to keep quiet about it.

But at the end of the day the crucial thing is whether your long-term BG outcomes are where you want them (or day to day fingersticks if you choose to use those).

YDMV and all that 🙂

 

[Toucan]

So to return to the main line of this thread - What I ate yesterday was...

Greek yoghurt with a little stewed apple and sunflower seeds
Goats cheese with a salad and mayo
Salmon fillet with small portion of new potatoes and green salad.

I hope this thread is useful to members, not only give food plan ideas, but also to show the different eating plans that we find as our personal solution to living with diabetes.
In as much as there are several causes of diabetes, there are also several solutions.

 

[Eddy Edson]

I think it’s important to remember that while low and very low carb eating plans are often recommended and suggested here, there are lots of individuals (of all types) using all sorts of approaches to foods.

I think at the end of the day it boils down to everyone’s balance between tastes, diet flexibility/sustainability, and BG outcomes (however they are monitored). And letting others choose their own path.

Sometimes I think those who find higher carb approaches suit them better - either tastewise or psychologically - tend to be a little cautious in sharing for fear of upsetting or provoking others? In a way I think that the variety of approaches is one of the strengths of oir community - and offers hope to any new members who instinctively think ‘I couldn’t eat like that long term’ about any one approach.

As an example for me my meals would usually be:
Breakfast: 25-45g Carbs
Lunch: 55-65g Carbs
Evening: 60-120g Carbs

We have T2s on the forum who eat moderate rather than low carb, but I think they tend to keep quiet about it.

But at the end of the day the crucial thing is whether your long-term BG outcomes are where you want them (or day to day fingersticks if you choose to use those).

YDMV and all that 🙂

Agree 100%.

I was going to chime in earlier but these things end up being like religious arguments - useless and off-putting for everybody else.

I do want to say that I agree with @travellor in the sense that I also have reversed my T2D via weight loss & I also don't blow up when I eat a bunch of carbs. Also - his input back when I was getting things together was extremely helpful. It would be a real pity if this point of view gets echo-chambered out to the margins.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I hope this thread is useful to members, not only give food plan ideas, but also to show the different eating plans that we find as our personal solution to living with diabetes.

Hehe! Thanks @Toucan. Yes... back on track.

For me

Toast and marmalade (estimated 17-20g, dosed as 25g)
Sandwich and an apple (estimated 55g)
Home made falafels and salad (estimated 65g)