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Time to dump outdated NHS misinformation

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Clive Phillips

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Since June I've lost two and a half stone, 5" from my waist, my cholesterol is exactly where it should be and my blood sugars have tumbled. I've gone from 50 units of insulin twice daily to 10 or less and I've never had as much energy; oh, and I'm 68 years old!
I found dietdoctor.com and it blows all the NHS "low fat blah blah blah" right out of the window! No ridiculous calorie counting and I get to drink red wine and whiskey!
The government hate the website because no matter how they try they can't discredit it. They roll out the same old clueless "Experts" to spew out the tripe they've been preaching for years even though they're proved wrong time and time again.
So, unless you want to remain on the same old merry go round take a look; unless you have the most expensive thing in the world; a closed mind!
 
Welcome to the forum Clive....

I think that generally this group agrees that lower carbs are better.....
 
I'm sure they do but most will be following the usual calorie counting, low fat blah that doesn't work.
 
Quite a lot of us on here do LCHF , I don't do LC but I have cut down an awful lot and full fat everything.
 
Clive Phillips said:
Since June I've lost two and a half stone, 5" from my waist, my cholesterol is exactly where it should be and my blood sugars have tumbled. I've gone from 50 units of insulin twice daily to 10 or less and I've never had as much energy; oh, and I'm 68 years old!
I found dietdoctor.com and it blows all the NHS "low fat blah blah blah" right out of the window! No ridiculous calorie counting and I get to drink red wine and whiskey!
The government hate the website because no matter how they try they can't discredit it. They roll out the same old clueless "Experts" to spew out the tripe they've been preaching for years even though they're proved wrong time and time again.
So, unless you want to remain on the same old merry go round take a look; unless you have the most expensive thing in the world; a closed mind!
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Are you here to promote this website?
 
Ljc said:
Quite a lot of us on here do LCHF , I don't do LC but I have cut down an awful lot and full fat everything.
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I find it easy to cut out the carbs. My practice nurse is delighted with my progress and I expect to be off insulin by next summer and to have reversed my diabetes soon after that. I wish dietdoctor had been around 50 years ago!
 
Clive Phillips said:
I find it easy to cut out the carbs. My practice nurse is delighted with my progress and I expect to be off insulin by next summer and to have reversed my diabetes soon after that. I wish dietdoctor had been around 50 years ago!
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So it is so wonderful that you are still on insulin. Hmmm
 
Clive Phillips said:
I'm sure they do but most will be following the usual calorie counting, low fat blah that doesn't work.
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Hang around on this board a while, you would be surprised.
 
Most of us are aware of Diet Doctor & follow the LCHF way of life. I think you maybe preaching to the converted.🙂
 
What about the folk as yet people treated as T2 but who will be re-classified later as LADA? There are thousands like that since they don't do all the tests on the vast majority of folk. Perhaps you were lucky and had all the tests at the outset.

Nothing on God's earth could currently make their diabetes reversible.

Come back when you've studied diabetes for years like many of the people here have, and see if you still think Owen's comment was 'stupid'. A bit catty perhaps, Owen, 😉 but not stupid by any means!
 
Clive Phillips said:
Type 2 can be reversed
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You say reversed, I say controlled..... Even if well controlled there is always a risk of increasing insulin resistance or the disease developing further; that's why we are all vigilant about what our numbers are & how foods (even previously "safe" foods) affect our numbers.
 
Where do I say I believe everything the NHS website says about T2 - when I don't believe everything they - or the individuals working for it - say about a lot of other things either.

However my own 'closed mind' detector is currently beeping it's little head off ! LOL I wonder why that could be?
 
Clive Phillips said:
Incidentally, it was this website that stated ""Most breakfast cereals are fine;"
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Sorry. Which site? Do you mean this forum we are posting on? You're going to have to much more specific and clearer than "this website".
And this forum doesn't.
 
Strictly speaking, type 2 cannot be reversed, only controlled. It is possible to improve control to the point where injected insulin is no longer necessary (ie you would have improved your body's insulin sensitivity due to weight loss and regular exercise, and/or reduced the demand on your pancreas for insulin by reducing carb intake). However this is NOT a reversal in the true sense, because the moment you begin eating carbs again or decrease your activity levels, your pancreas will again be unable to cope.
 
Hi Clive, welcome to the forum 🙂 I applaud you on your efforts in turning things around - well done 🙂 Please don't assume though that the members of this forum are ignorant of your path to success, I think if you took a little time to read other people's experiences you would realise that it's not a revelation to many (if, indeed, any). Please don't use abusive and inflammatory language when referring to others - fine to discuss your findings, but keep it civil.

About half of our members are Type 1, so whilst there can be advantages in reducing carb intake, it's not essential and won't 'reverse' anything. Similarly, not everyone needs to go to low carb/high fat extremes to get their levels under control - the key is finding the right plan for you as an individual (which you appear to have found for yourself).
 
It sounds like your doing well Clive in managing your diabetes. Keep it up.
 
Outdated NHS misinformation seems to apply across the board. I have pernicious anaemia and hypothyroidism as well as diabetes and I have found the NHS is living on another planet with those conditions as well. And those are the ones I know about.
 
I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to make exactly. Great, dietdoctor works for him but to suggest some sort of government conspiracy against it is ridiculous. I'm quite sure the government are more than aware of the obesity crisis and Type 2 diabetes epidemic from the billions they have to pour into the NHS to deal with it each year. I would presume they are investigating all avenues to try and do something about it. They can't just say do something based on what a few people on the internet have claimed without it being properly investigated, which takes time.
 
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...some sort of government conspiracy...
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I listened to a couple of radio programmes and podcasts about conspiracy theories. They said a government conspiracy isn't needed in a lot of the examples. Officals and politicians are not perfect. All it requires is incompetence.
I've had Diabetec dieticiens and Nurses I've met in person disagree. One commented "well I don't know why she said that" of another.
 
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