Pump Start ; potential 780g

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SB2015 said:
Also not sure what the difference is between a BG and a calibration.
Wouldn’t you just calibrate whenever you do a BG for a meal?
Is there a reason not to calibrate sometimes with a BG (apart from the warning above).
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That was my apporach with G3 sensors. Though I found that if BG was changing rapidly pre-meal it was better to wait until the sensor trace was more stable.

G3s will prompt you to calibrate at other times if sensor readings have been a bit erratic too - I got quite a few calibration requests overnight with G3 sensors (despite calibrating at bedtime) which I never had with Enlites.

Good news that the cost of the sensors has come down! Pressure of the market and increased sensor use generally perhaps?
 
Maco I don’t have sensors in yet, but the sensor is linked to the pump. It is the pump that then talks to the app, when you pair you pump to the phone through the Minimed app for the 780. The sensor does not talk to the phone directly. So long as your phone is compatible with the pump and paired correctly than you can pick up the data on the phone. I was told most iPhones are compatible, my old android wasn’t. You then need to pair your sensor transmitter to the pump too, and to the test kit. Apologies if you already have done all that.

I hope that you get it all to work. I was told if there are any difficulties to contact Medtronic pump support to sort it, as they will take you through their checks and if there is any fault they will replace it. I have found them very helpful so far with any questions that I have had.
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
That was my apporach with G3 sensors. Though I found that if BG was changing rapidly pre-meal it was better to wait until the sensor trace was more stable.

G3s will prompt you to calibrate at other times if sensor readings have been a bit erratic too - I got quite a few calibration requests overnight with G3 sensors (despite calibrating at bedtime) which I never had with Enlites.

Good news that the cost of the sensors has come down! Pressure of the market and increased sensor use generally perhaps?
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Thanks Mike
Gradually getting my head round it all, and this will definitely be like learning to drive.
My OH described the current stage as driving along in second gear!
I am looking forward to more sleep so I am hoping that there aren’t too many alarms at night, although those can just be linked to the inevitable night visits that come with age (or is it the two cups of tea before bed?)
 
@SB2015 I’ve just got round mine to fitting my G3 sensor, your right about all the app side of things. I thought you needed to have the guardian connect app as well as the minimed mobile app but it turns out you just need the minimed app. Transmitter connects to pump, pump connects to the app & then everything is shown on there.

In all honesty I’m pleased I’ve took the plunge and fitted it because it will be a total nightmare next Thursday for the remaining people on the group chat. I decided to fit it behind the arm & it’s totally impossible to put the oval tape on without any help (my partner had to fit the tape). Wonder if anyone knows of a reliable alternative tape as I’m put off the two bits of oval tape already. It’s too fiddly for someone as heavy handed as me.

Honestly feel sorry for the older gentleman who struggled with the pump set up, he’s got to fit his G3 on his lunch break at work on his own. Unfortunately I think he will really struggle.
 
SB2015 said:
I haven’t got that far yet @Maco
I know they want you in manual mode once the sensor and transmitter is fitted so that the sensor learns what your body needs, and can set its algorithm to suit you. I would personally wait as I would want to get it right, especially as I will be paying for the sensors.

Having said that I have just had excellent news that the cost of sensors has virtually halved!!!! Glad that I had a false start and waited. I shall wait until after my next review with Medtronic before I order. I knew they were dropping their prices but I am amazed at the scale of this. I think I can probably thank Dexcom for their advertising setting up big competition.
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Hi Sue,
I wasn’t aware that the sensor price had virtually halved? I have always paid £210 for 5 sensors as part of my “complete package”
 
The new prices I have been quoted at for the full loyalty programme where you commit for the year. The website still shows the old prices. I am waiting to check with the trainer at my next appointment. The starter kit has dropped from £589 to £299 and now includes 7 sensors instead of five. Then the regular boxes of five are now £169. Very pleased with this, and I think I have benefitted from delaying my sensor start.
 
Maco said:
@SB2015 I’ve just got round mine to fitting my G3 sensor, your right about all the app side of things. I thought you needed to have the guardian connect app as well as the minimed mobile app but it turns out you just need the minimed app. Transmitter connects to pump, pump connects to the app & then everything is shown on there.

In all honesty I’m pleased I’ve took the plunge and fitted it because it will be a total nightmare next Thursday for the remaining people on the group chat. I decided to fit it behind the arm & it’s totally impossible to put the oval tape on without any help (my partner had to fit the tape). Wonder if anyone knows of a reliable alternative tape as I’m put off the two bits of oval tape already. It’s too fiddly for someone as heavy handed as me.

Honestly feel sorry for the older gentleman who struggled with the pump set up, he’s got to fit his G3 on his lunch break at work on his own. Unfortunately I think he will really struggle.
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He might find it easier for the first one to put it in his abdomen. I am sure the trainers are used to dealing with this.

I think I will do that for the first one to make sure I know hit w it works, then get OH to do them in my arm after that, and get him to watch the video first.
 
SB2015 said:
He might find it easier for the first one to put it in his abdomen. I am sure the trainers are used to dealing with this.

I think I will do that for the first one to make sure I know hit w it works, then get OH to do them in my arm after that, and get him to watch the video first.
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The video is very good, I went for back the back of the arm because of how frequently I go to the gym & because of the type of job I have. I’m used to having my Libre there as well so it’s kind of stuck In my head to avoid door frames etc. The abdomen seemed a bit risky but now I’ve seen how well the oval tape keeps it in place I’ll probably go for the stomach next week.

Id definitely say you need someone to help when doing the arm because it’s impossible to fit the tape with one hand.

I’ve done my first calibration at 2.30 with no issues, checked the g3 against my meter when I got back from the gym & it was only 0.6mmol out so a massive improvement over Libre. Slightly worried about how wrong I’m going to get off my DSN on Thursday for fitting it but I’ve got SmartGuard turned off so they have nothing to worry about.
 
SB2015 said:
The new prices I have been quoted at for the full loyalty programme where you commit for the year. The website still shows the old prices. I am waiting to check with the trainer at my next appointment. The starter kit has dropped from £589 to £299 and now includes 7 sensors instead of five. Then the regular boxes of five are now £169. Very pleased with this, and I think I have benefitted from delaying my sensor start.
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Yes, I am on the full loyalty programme too. I last bought sensors (10) in November at £420, I will be ordering some more next week, so it will be interesting to see if I get them for £169! Thanks for the heads up.
 
Maco said:
@SB2015 I’ve just got round mine to fitting my G3 sensor, your right about all the app side of things. I thought you needed to have the guardian connect app as well as the minimed mobile app but it turns out you just need the minimed app. Transmitter connects to pump, pump connects to the app & then everything is shown on there.

In all honesty I’m pleased I’ve took the plunge and fitted it because it will be a total nightmare next Thursday for the remaining people on the group chat. I decided to fit it behind the arm & it’s totally impossible to put the oval tape on without any help (my partner had to fit the tape). Wonder if anyone knows of a reliable alternative tape as I’m put off the two bits of oval tape already. It’s too fiddly for someone as heavy handed as me.

Honestly feel sorry for the older gentleman who struggled with the pump set up, he’s got to fit his G3 on his lunch break at work on his own. Unfortunately I think he will really struggle.
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He might find it easier for the first one to put it in his abdomen. I am sure the trainers are used to dealing with this.

I think I will do that for the first one to make sure I know hit w it works, then get OH to do them in my arm after that, and get him to watch the video first.
 
Looks like a long night ahead for me, I’m been asked for calibrations every 6 hours.. lovely!
 
SB2015 said:
The new prices I have been quoted at for the full loyalty programme where you commit for the year. The website still shows the old prices. I am waiting to check with the trainer at my next appointment. The starter kit has dropped from £589 to £299 and now includes 7 sensors instead of five. Then the regular boxes of five are now £169. Very pleased with this, and I think I have benefitted from delaying my sensor start.
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That’s great news for self-funders 🙂
 
Maco said:
Looks like a long night ahead for me, I’m been asked for calibrations every 6 hours.. lovely!
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Always a few calibrations in quick succession at the start I found, soon settled down after 2 or 3 though?
 
Maco said:
Looks like a long night ahead for me, I’m been asked for calibrations every 6 hours.. lovely!
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Hi Bud Calibrate the sensor every 2 hours or so by yourself, don’t wait the 6 hours, normally it takes 3 before it settles down
 
Maco said:
@Paulbreen, it’s switched over to 12hrs now bud. All going well now, did you get sorted with the minimed app?
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I checked it out @Maco but it doesn’t work with the 680G pumps, only the 700 series, typical Meditronic lol
It may throw you a request for calibration during the night in the first few weeks, always at around 4:00am, it seems to be something that happens to some people and not others, I had it twice when I just started with the pump but never had it since.
Glad to hear it’s going well now
 
@Paulbreen
Another question for you bud, your my go to man at the minute lol. When using bolus wizard is there not a way for the pump to automatically use the Guardian sensors reading for the correction dose? Today for breakfast and dinner my sensor reading was 11.0 so I needed a slight correction but unless you go into the blood symbol and enter a value which then calibrates the sensor nothing shows on bolus wizard. I just see the 3 little dashes
 
Hi @Maco that's correct, when your in manual mode the pump is using the Basal chart you setup for all your needs except for the Bolus when you have something to eat. Do you carb count? I'm assuming you do, so when you go into the Bolus wizard it will show the current BG reading from your sensor and when you punch in your amount of carbs in grams the pump should calculate the correct Bolus to deliver, the calculation also includes your ratio, sensitivity and insulin duration values.
under the Bolus wizard on my 680G there is a "direct unit" button so if I want to do a small correction I can do it there, maybe your pump has another way of doing it.
here's a link to the quick start manual
 
Paulbreen said:
Hi @Maco that's correct, when your in manual mode the pump is using the Basal chart you setup for all your needs except for the Bolus when you have something to eat. Do you carb count? I'm assuming you do, so when you go into the Bolus wizard it will show the current BG reading from your sensor and when you punch in your amount of carbs in grams the pump should calculate the correct Bolus to deliver, the calculation also includes your ratio, sensitivity and insulin duration values.
under the Bolus wizard on my 680G there is a "direct unit" button so if I want to do a small correction I can do it there, maybe your pump has another way of doing it.
here's a link to the quick start manual
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Hey Paul, I should of worded it better. So when I go to use bolus wizard there’s no BG from my sensor showing. It’s showing - - -, the only way I can get it to show Bg reading is by punching it in myself which then calibrates the sensor every time. Obviously I could use the sensor reading but then I’d be calibrating then sensor from a sensor reading which could be incorrect
 
Hi @Sowerbee

How did your pump start go, and hw are you getting on?
Are you in auto mode yet? I had a bit of a false start so have now lagged behind a little, but looking forward to moving into using the sensors.
 
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