Newcastle Diet -

[Drummer]

But you wrote 'reduction' several times quite happily quoting the findings - I'm not naysaying what the findings were - you are.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Just tried the shakes with a homemade yoghurt.
I used to make it a while ago.
A combination of a pea based milk, and a soya based, and a probiotic fermented kefir to start if off.
It mixed ok with a banana slimfast, so it's going to become the morning drink now to see if if improves my gut flora in any way.

 

[Weekender]

Just tried the shakes with a homemade yoghurt.
I used to make it a while ago.
A combination of a pea based milk, and a soya based, and a probiotic fermented kefir to start if off.
It mixed ok with a banana slimfast, so it's going to become the morning drink now to see if if improves my gut flora in any way.

I'd be interested to learn what you think. I'm not a fan of Kimchi etc, but like the idea. I really enjoyed I Contain Multitudes: The Microbes Within Us and a Grander View of Life - by Ed Yong

 

[Weekender]

Well, I didn't get below 80.5kg
The more accurate Gym scales (Tanita MC780MA) say I've added 3kg of fat :-(
I've ordered a week's supply of shakes, but Mrs W and my Personal Trainer are advising against a VLCD episode.
I will let you know
Blood sugars are constant at 5.6

Variable	Sep	Oct	Nov	Jan	Change
Weight (kg)	81.20	81.60	81.10	83.10	2.00
Body fat mass (BFM) (kg)	14.80	12.20	11.50	14.50	3.00
Fat free mass (FFM) (kg)	66.40	69.40	69.60	68.60	- 1.00
Muscle mass (kg)	63.10	66.00	66.20	65.20	- 1.00

 

[Windy]

@Weekender Can I ask you how you coped with the transition from the 800 calorie Newcastle bit of your diet to the bit afterwards? I'm nearly there, in 4 days, I'll be eating 1500 calories a day. Did/do you restrict your calories still? Was it difficult not getting lead astray by the extra food choices?
TIA, Sarah

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I'd be interested to learn what you think. I'm not a fan of Kimchi etc, but like the idea. I really enjoyed I Contain Multitudes: The Microbes Within Us and a Grander View of Life - by Ed Yong

Sorry, I missed this.
They taste ok.
I'm not a fan of sweet things anymore, so the yoghurt suited me.

 

[Weekender]

@Weekender Can I ask you how you coped with the transition from the 800 calorie Newcastle bit of your diet to the bit afterwards? I'm nearly there, in 4 days, I'll be eating 1500 calories a day. Did/do you restrict your calories still? Was it difficult not getting lead astray by the extra food choices?
TIA, Sarah

Hi Sarah
I was looking back over my old posts, to remember - This one is covers the transition:

http://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/newcastle-diet.93831/post-1092214

I cut out carbs and snacked on popcorn, but my problem back then was I was still over fond of beer

 

[Weekender]

Hi Sarah
I was looking back over my old posts, to remember - This one is covers the transition:

http://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/newcastle-diet.93831/post-1092214

I cut out carbs and snacked on popcorn, but my problem back then was I was still over fond of beer

The link didn't work when I tried, I wrote this at the time :

DIET
In terms of diet, I am not eating bread, potatoes or rice etc. Plenty of veg and salad with chicken etc.
One staple I like is a 'quesadilla' fry up of onion, garlic, chilli, black beans, (frozen: spinach, peppers, sweet corn)
I make a batch to keep in the fridge and used to add this to tortilla wrap cooked on a griddle pan with chicken and cheese.
Unfortunately the tortilla wraps are 270 calories (!) So they went in the bin.

I've been frying the mix in flour as patties, and they make a great replacement for hash browns. Very flavoursome breakfast with ham and eggs.

The other welcome addition is the hot air popcorn maker. 1oz / 30g of air popped kernels is about 100 calories and a large bowl full. It's a whole grain, has some nutrients and plenty of fibre, and is handy substitute for worse TV snacks.

I also pulverise a pear, carrots, a spoon of seed mix, ginger and berries (next door has supplied a kilo of garden blackcurrants) with some water in a blender - which makes a fibrous pint between meals

 

[Weekender]

Went to cafe in Bristol last Tuesday and had a 'build your own salad'. The server was using her bare hands to pick the ingredients from the plastic boxes and mix in a bowl, so I assume this is why I wasn't able to keep any food down Thu-Sat.
So I lost 3kg. Interestingly my fasting blood sugars were very high during the illness (6.8-6.9). Any suggestions as to why?

 

[Windy]

Any suggestions as to why?

Illness can throw your blood sugar levels out. I wonder if your food poisoning threw your bloods out. Hope you're feeling better soon.

 

[Leadinglights]

Went to cafe in Bristol last Tuesday and had a 'build your own salad'. The server was using her bare hands to pick the ingredients from the plastic boxes and mix in a bowl, so I assume this is why I wasn't able to keep any food down Thu-Sat.
So I lost 3kg. Interestingly my fasting blood sugars were very high during the illness (6.8-6.9). Any suggestions as to why?

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I think that would warrant a call to environmental heath at the council.
Bit of a drastic way to lose weight.

 

[Weekender]

Latest update - I hope everyone is keeping well

After the food poisoning my weight yo-yo'd 1.5kg - I had hoped to retain some of the weight loss, I wasn't aware of eating more than usual but the 1.5kg snapped back on. More evidence in support of the self correcting metabolism,
A good article in the Observer on this a couple of months ago



I'm a bit concerned that my blood sugars are trending up - I think I will ask for an HbA1c blood test next time I need to talk to my GP



Using the gym body composition scales, I still have some way to go to recover from the Xmas weight gain (83.5 kg)

NB Weight with gym clothes

In terms of exercise, my active minutes are a bit higher than this time last year, but I am burning ~ 500 calories a day less than I was when I was 15kg heavier

 

[Windy]

I'm a bit concerned that my blood sugars are trending up

Glad to hear you've got over your bad tummy.
Do you test on all meals, or just the ones that you're not sure about?
I realised I have introduced a sampling bias in my testing, as I don't test "safe" meals like omelette, but do on new foods which might give me higher BG readings.
This means my graph of pre and post meal BG is more likely to have higher reading than if I tested every meal.
I guess the fasting readings wouldn't be affected by that? Can you do a graph of them only and see if they have an upward trend line? Your graphs are far more elegant than mine which I do in Libre Office Calc (below). My trend line started rising when I went from 800 cals/day to 1500. Not sure what happened this morning to get a 6.3mmol/L

 

[Weekender]

Thanks Windy, you are doing great = keep it up. I only do one test, every morning before I eat. Sometimes before coffee, sometimes after, I would say I average 5.9, but have been getting more high sixes recently. I don't think I can improve on my diet, and lifestyle so if the HbA1c trend is poor I will consider taking medication.

 

[Windy]

Thanks Windy, you are doing great = keep it up. I only do one test, every morning before I eat. Sometimes before coffee, sometimes after, I would say I average 5.9, but have been getting more high sixes recently. I don't think I can improve on my diet, and lifestyle so if the HbA1c trend is poor I will consider taking medication.

Thanks Weekender, cheers for the encouragement.
Fingers crossed for you that it's just the tail end of your body recovering from Christmas and food poisoning. Sarah

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Glad to hear you've got over your bad tummy.
Do you test on all meals, or just the ones that you're not sure about?
I realised I have introduced a sampling bias in my testing, as I don't test "safe" meals like omelette, but do on new foods which might give me higher BG readings.
This means my graph of pre and post meal BG is more likely to have higher reading than if I tested every meal.
I guess the fasting readings wouldn't be affected by that? Can you do a graph of them only and see if they have an upward trend line? Your graphs are far more elegant than mine which I do in Libre Office Calc (below). My trend line started rising when I went from 800 cals/day to 1500. Not sure what happened this morning to get a 6.3mmol/LView attachment 20043

I used to do that.
Chase the highs.

 

[KayAnne]

Thanks Windy, you are doing great = keep it up. I only do one test, every morning before I eat. Sometimes before coffee, sometimes after, I would say I average 5.9, but have been getting more high sixes recently. I don't think I can improve on my diet, and lifestyle so if the HbA1c trend is poor I will consider taking medication.

Are you going through a bit of a stressful period at the minute Weekender? I find that my blood sugars are massively affected by stress no matter what I eat so this may be a cause for your recent high readings perhaps?

I also want to add that your thread has been a massive help and source of wisdom to assist me starting out the Newcastle Diet this year so thank you! 🙂

 

[Windy]

I also want to add that your thread has been a massive help and source of wisdom to assist me starting out the Newcastle Diet this year so thank you!

Me too - I really grateful for the quality information you've posted. It's kept me on the diet straight and narrow and given me hope that I can lose weight, as I've struggled to do that in the past and didn't think I'd be able to do 800 calories. Knowing that you and others have gave me the impetus to start and keep at it.

 

[Kreator]

@Weekender, keep in there buddy - remember why we're all doing this and keep strong - you can do it! 😉

 

[showmethenumbers]

Hello everyone, thought I would share my story on this thread. This thread has been and still is a bit of an inspiration to me. Diagnosed with type 2 in Sep 2021 with a reading of 108. That seems quite high to me, [ can anyone tell me if that means it will take longer to get my BS under control.]

Prescribed gliczocide and statins for high cholesterol. Given a diet sheet for foods to avoid but I didn’t really know what I was doing. Was still eating wholemeal carbs , fruit, drinking wine, my fasting numbers although now under more control would be 8 or 9 in the morning.

After Christmas done some research on reversing and discovered Professor Taylor and Newcastle diet. Currently on week 4 and have lost just over 7kg. I’m still on my meds but average blood sugar in the morning is now 6.8.

Will keep it going I started at 93 kg and trying to get to 78 kg. Easier during the week when at work, weekends a lot harder.