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Journey 2 Remission/Reversal II (Don't call it a comeback).

Have you been gathering a baseline of your BG levels to see how those are impacted by your plan @beating_my_betes ?

Are you monitoring capillary glucose alongside your nutritional intake? (This may be what the ‘reserved for data’ posts were intended for?)
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
Have you been gathering a baseline of your BG levels to see how those are impacted by your plan @beating_my_betes ?

Are you monitoring capillary glucose alongside your nutritional intake? (This may be what the ‘reserved for data’ posts were intended for?)
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When I'm up to the task I will be adding past data. I will also be doing various sporadic, but repeatable, tests. These should make it very clear if it's working.
 
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What sort of levels are you seeing after these meals?
 
I'm not sure this is helpful for new people to the forum who are looking for ways of modifying their diet to manage high blood glucose levels.
It should have a disclaimer that this is YOUR way and at the moment there are no blood glucose readings to see if it is even working for you. Good luck with your experiment.
 
harbottle said:
What sort of levels are you seeing after these meals?
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Don't know. I test in a pretty specific way, that makes itimpractical to do very often. Will be doing some testing over the coming days, however.
 
How do you test your blood glucose? I'm intrigued.
 
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You're very brave to do this without testing...
I went into almost remission in 6 months and apart from periods of illness have maintained it but only because I tested tested tested.
There is no way that would have happened on such a high carb % and not working out GL relationship to GI
The outcome for me on my journey is approximately an average of45% mixed types of carbs.
I wish you the very best and really hope it works for you.
 
Leadinglights said:
I'm not sure this is helpful for new people to the forum who are looking for ways of modifying their diet to manage high blood glucose levels.
It should have a disclaimer that this is YOUR way and at the moment there are no blood glucose readings to see if it is even working for you. Good luck with your experiment.
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See the OPs first post in this thread
beating_my_betes

Thread 'Journey 2 Remission/Reversal II (Don't call it a comeback).'

DISCLAIMER: Nothing that I communicate within this introduction, or within the ongoing thread, is to be taken as medical or dietary advice. This is something that I am doing as an experiment, albeit based on success I’ve seen elsewhere, over the years.
This is also not intended to dissuade anyone away from their current plan. If what you’re doing is working for you, then it’s working. I’m looking for something that’ll work for me, and that I can stick to for however many years/decades I have left.
If anyone else is persuaded to give it a try, this is between them and their family...
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Where is the research showing a diet high in refined carbs like fruit juice, white bread, white rice, and sugar has been a success in getting type 2 diabetes into remission?

I have seen research showing whole food diets using legumes and grains can help reverse insulin resistance, which makes sense as it may reduce lipotoxicity, but that's using it as a very low calorie diet in the short term and also combined with exercise.
 
harbottle said:
Where is the research showing a diet high in refined carbs like fruit juice, white bread, white rice, and sugar has been a success in getting type 2 diabetes into remission?

I have seen research showing whole food diets using legumes and grains can help reverse insulin resistance, which makes sense as it may reduce lipotoxicity, but that's using it as a very low calorie diet in the short term and also combined with exercise.
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Well it's good to see you make the distinction between different types of carbs. But how do wholefood carbs reduce lipotoxicity?
 
I think it's certainly true that carbs don't cause diabetes. But once you have it & while your glucose regulation remains out of whack, heavy carb loads can obviously cause big post-prandial BG levels, big enough & long-lasting enough to cause damage. Not sure what the point of this approach is, but good luck!
 
beating_my_betes said:
Well it's good to see you make the distinction between different types of carbs. How do wholefood carbs reduce lipotoxicity?
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Low in saturated fat? I don't know, I'm just guessing that this why a whole food diet of grains and legumes helps.

But it's also important that it's used with low calories and exercise.
 
harbottle said:
Where is the research showing a diet high in refined carbs like fruit juice, white bread, white rice, and sugar has been a success in getting type 2 diabetes into remission?

I have seen research showing whole food diets using legumes and grains can help reverse insulin resistance, which makes sense as it may reduce lipotoxicity, but that's using it as a very low calorie diet in the short term and also combined with exercise.
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Any diet with a calorie deficit can result in clearing visceral fat & hopefully restoring glucose regulation. But subjecting yrself to very high BG levels along the way, before you get there, just seems unnecessarily risky to me.
 
@beating_my_betes - Please do not be so coy about your testing regime. I have had a couple of ideas about how to summarise blood glucose readings over the short term but have yet to come up with something I would put forward. It would be great to see which way you are going.
 
harbottle said:
Low in saturated fat? I don't know, I'm just guessing that this why a whole food diet of grains and legumes helps.

But it's also important that it's used with low calories and exercise.
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If it's the saturated fat, why would that differ between refined and wholefood carbs?

What do you mean by "low calories" that woudn't also be covered by reduced calories?

And exercise is good for various reasons, but not necessary for what I'm trying to achieve...at least, at the moment.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, or to single you out. But I think its important to distill these bigger claims down to smaller and clearer elements.
 
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