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Thank you so much. Appreciate the concern. I do have the funds now to get the test prick for backup. For ketones test, will do that at a later time. My son went exercise but surprisingly to us, the glucose went up 2.5mmol. After the exercise, we went for dinner and we injected more as we thought that his glucose went higher and he wanted some nice food...then after 2 hrs, his glucose keep going below 4mmol, so he took some sweets and biscuit...did the impact of exercise came a bit late ?
 
I agree @rebrascora Although I do think a Libre might be useful early on to help get basal right, particularly overnight. But if you can only get the Libre without the alarms, then you might find it cheaper and easier for your son to use a meter and fingerprick @Mom of Type 1 It depends how compliant your son is with testing.
We like Libre though coz it is convenient and you dont have to keep pricking fingers during meals. Will give it a try
 
Yes, exercise will usually lower your levels for up to 48 hours later.
The type of exercise affects whether your levels go up or down during the exercise. If it is high intensity exercise which makes you sweat and breath heavily and your muscles burn, then usually it makes levels go higher, but they come down later so do not give extra insulin and generally we reduce insulin doses before and after exercise.
If it is steady exercise like walking or non competitive swimming or tennis or cycling, then levels usually come down, both during the exercise and after, so you do have to be very careful with insulin and exercise.
 
We bought the finger prick test kit. Accu Chek brand...how different will the readings be compared to Libre ? First time using Accu Chek, it shows 10.2, but when scan against Libre, it is only 8.2. So different ?
 
We bought the finger prick test kit. Accu Chek brand...how different will the readings be compared to Libre ? First time using Accu Chek, it shows 10.2, but when scan against Libre, it is only 8.2. So different ?

Always take the fingerprick test result over the Libre. AccuChek is a good brand so should be accurate 🙂
 
We bought the finger prick test kit. Accu Chek brand...how different will the readings be compared to Libre ? First time using Accu Chek, it shows 10.2, but when scan against Libre, it is only 8.2. So different ?
Because the numbers on the meters are so precise with a decimal point, it is common to assume that they are accurate.
However, the standards they need to comply with (in the UK) are to be with 15% of the "real" value 95% of the time.
For example, if the "real" value was 9.0, the Accuchek could be reading up to 15% lower (which which is 7.6) and the Libre could be reading up to 15% higher (which would be 10.4).
The higher the reading, the bigger the absolute difference.

But as @Inka mentioned, it is usual to take the reading from finger pricks where there is a difference.
 
Always take the fingerprick test result over the Libre. AccuChek is a good brand so should be accurate 🙂
Difference by 2mmol ? Is that normal ? Then I would always have to add back 2 when I use Libre ?
 
Difference by 2mmol ? Is that normal ? Then I would always have to add back 2 when I use Libre ?

No, don’t add back two. If he uses the Libre and he thinks the result is strange or not accurate, he should fingerprick to check it. The difference between the two results might vary.
 
Difference by 2mmol ? Is that normal ? Then I would always have to add back 2 when I use Libre ?
No, the difference is a percentage due to the standard permitted accuracy.
So, if his BG was lower, the difference would be less.
But as @Inka mentioned, the recommendation is to check Libre if it does not match how you feel.
 
Don’t forget the Libra is about 15 minutes behind a real time fingerpricker reading so that may account for the difference but 2mmol isn’t a big enough difference to worry about anyway.
 
Don’t forget the Libra is about 15 minutes behind a real time fingerpricker reading so that may account for the difference but 2mmol isn’t a big enough difference to worry about anyway.
This is not strictly true because the Libre has an algorithm built into the system which extrapolates the previous readings to predict what the reading would be in about 15 mins in order to try to make up the lag between interstitial fluid which the Libre reads and blood. When levels are changing at a uniform rate, then the algorithm works reasonable well and there should be no signficant lag but when the rate of change is changing or levels are changing direction for instance after a hypo treatment, then this is where the extrapolation of previous reading to predict the lag has an adverse effect, because it continues to predict you dropping for a further 15 mins after treating a hypo or when levels are rising sharply, reach a peak and then start coming down. This is often why Libre over exaggerates highs and lows.

Generally I find most Libre sensors read about 1mmol below my Caresens meter when levels are stable and mid range but I do those comparison checks when my levels have been mid range and stable for about half an hour with no significant insulin or glucose active in my system. A couple of checks in the first few days of a sensor's life under these circumstances are usually for me to be confident of using the Libre to bolus from provided it is within 2mmols. If it is further out than 2 mmols, I will do another couple of checks and if it continues to be more than 2 wide of the mark, it gets reported to Abbott customer support who will usually replace the sensor. If it is consistently within 2mmols ideally always lower or always higher then it is fine as far as I am concerned.
Also worth bearing in mind that the first 24 hours can be less accurate for some people due to what @helli calls "insertion trauma", where the tissue that the filament has been inserted into has a slight reaction to the foreign body suddenly appearing in it, and this can cause the first day's readings to be less reliable. For this reason, many of us, apply each Libre sensor a day before the old one expires to let it bed in but not activate it until the next day when the old one ends. This gives the tissue time to react and then settle down before the sensor starts sampling the interstitial fluid and giving readings. Libre allow a 60 minute warm up period for this purpose I believe but giving it longer by applying a new sensor as much as a day in advance can be more beneficial. These are things that we have gradually learned by sharing our experiences here on the forum and are not necessarily things that Abbott would recommend.
 
This is not strictly true because the Libre has an algorithm built into the system which extrapolates the previous readings to predict what the reading would be in about 15 mins in order to try to make up the lag between interstitial fluid which the Libre reads and blood. When levels are changing at a uniform rate, then the algorithm works reasonable well and there should be no signficant lag but when the rate of change is changing or levels are changing direction for instance after a hypo treatment, then this is where the extrapolation of previous reading to predict the lag has an adverse effect, because it continues to predict you dropping for a further 15 mins after treating a hypo or when levels are rising sharply, reach a peak and then start coming down. This is often why Libre over exaggerates highs and lows.

Generally I find most Libre sensors read about 1mmol below my Caresens meter when levels are stable and mid range but I do those comparison checks when my levels have been mid range and stable for about half an hour with no significant insulin or glucose active in my system. A couple of checks in the first few days of a sensor's life under these circumstances are usually for me to be confident of using the Libre to bolus from provided it is within 2mmols. If it is further out than 2 mmols, I will do another couple of checks and if it continues to be more than 2 wide of the mark, it gets reported to Abbott customer support who will usually replace the sensor. If it is consistently within 2mmols ideally always lower or always higher then it is fine as far as I am concerned.
Also worth bearing in mind that the first 24 hours can be less accurate for some people due to what @helli calls "insertion trauma", where the tissue that the filament has been inserted into has a slight reaction to the foreign body suddenly appearing in it, and this can cause the first day's readings to be less reliable. For this reason, many of us, apply each Libre sensor a day before the old one expires to let it bed in but not activate it until the next day when the old one ends. This gives the tissue time to react and then settle down before the sensor starts sampling the interstitial fluid and giving readings. Libre allow a 60 minute warm up period for this purpose I believe but giving it longer by applying a new sensor as much as a day in advance can be more beneficial. These are things that we have gradually learned by sharing our experiences here on the forum and are not necessarily things that Abbott would recommend.
Ok, will continue to monitor the differences
 
Don’t forget the Libra is about 15 minutes behind a real time fingerpricker reading so that may account for the difference but 2mmol isn’t a big enough difference to worry about anyway.
Wouldnt it means we are constantly out of the optimal range ? If Libre says 6mmol, we had to assume he is 8mmol in finger pricking, he is out of optimal range...
 
Wouldnt it means we are constantly out of the optimal range ? If Libre says 6mmol, we had to assume he is 8mmol in finger pricking, he is out of optimal range...

There’s nothing wrong with an 8 @Mom of Type 1 especially if he’s recently eaten. Although 4 to 8 is sometimes given as the optimal range, that’s usually with a proviso that blood sugar can go up to 10 or 12 or whatever after a meal. If he aims for 4 to 8, he’s best having that range before the next meal not all the time.

It really annoys me when people are given an unrealistic range, especially when they’ve just been diagnosed. As a comparison, the Libre Time in Range is 3.9 to 10 with the understanding that there will be results outside that range.
 
No need to calculate it yourself. There should be a summary of the results on the Libre. I haven’t used one for a few years so not sure where it is. When I used it I could look at my history and see pie charts or figures for time in range over the past 7 days or 14 days. Someone using a Libre will be able to give you more specific information.

I used to work to the target of 4 - 7 but eventually was persuaded to be more realistic and aim for TIR measured between 4 and 10. We will still go outside this after a meal a lot of the time, whoever well practiced we are. Then I try to remember the % that youHave been given by Partha Kar. Very good reminders of realistic expectations.
 
hi that's really sad to hear!!
I could just say that when he would get older hill fore shore appreciate his moms hard work for oll the time you where there for him!!
And just like oll of us he will be a good child and be able to do every single thing like awry body else
and just keep strong and hill make hiss mom proud!!!!!🙂🙂🙂🙂:D
 
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