Has your diabetes team engaged with you irrespective of covid or not?

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Last year everything was done remotely, which was OK as I was 'stuck' overseas and couldn't get back to the UK until August. Pump replacement and training was done remotely too. TBH I thought that worked better - saved a lot of travelling time for everyone.

This year, pretty well back to normal. The only difference was that there was no DSN present when I had my face-to-face with the consultant. He explained that henceforth the 6-monthly reviews will alternate consultant-DSN-consultant etc. I can't see that being a problem and seems to me like a more efficient use of everyone's time. Every cloud ....
I agree and thankfully you are under a consultant and DSN. I was told by a local community DSN I should be officially diagnosed and be under the care of an endo consultant but my GP/DSN disagree so I only have the absent for the last 2 years DSN! Fortunately I feel a responsibility to keep things under control and have invested in Dexcom but god only knows what my BP, cholesterol and Thyroid are up to?!
 
I was diagnosed in July. I have met the consultant on one occasion and the diabetic nurse once. I have a scheduled appointment at the clinic this Thursday to take bloods and cholesterol check as I have an intolerance to statins. I have also to get a 24 hour heart monitor , when first diagnosed I was so anxious every time my blood sugars went low or raised i had a rapid heart beat. When I mentioned this to the consultant he suggested the heart monitor. Now I am more confident with managing the diabetes my heart rate has definitely settled but I will follow advice. I am going to the podiatrist tomorrow ( private)as decided I will no longer cut my own toe nails. i have had my eyes checked this year, and I can contact the diabetic team at any time if required. So all things considered a good service.
 
I was diagnosed in July. I have met the consultant on one occasion and the diabetic nurse once. I have a scheduled appointment at the clinic this Thursday to take bloods and cholesterol check as I have an intolerance to statins. I have also to get a 24 hour heart monitor , when first diagnosed I was so anxious every time my blood sugars went low or raised i had a rapid heart beat. When I mentioned this to the consultant he suggested the heart monitor. Now I am more confident with managing the diabetes my heart rate has definitely settled but I will follow advice. I am going to the podiatrist tomorrow ( private)as decided I will no longer cut my own toe nails. i have had my eyes checked this year, and I can contact the diabetic team at any time if required. So all things considered a good service.
I’m so happy you are getting the support you need after your recent diagnosis! I wish you all the luck in the world and when you are offered to go on a T1 Ed course…. Do it! It was an absolute revelation for me and has really helped me to keep things under control. In Kent it’s the Kat1e course but nationwide it’s the DAFNE course. Take the opportunity when you’re offered it because it really will give you the knowledge to control this. x
 
I agree and thankfully you are under a consultant and DSN. I was told by a local community DSN I should be officially diagnosed and be under the care of an endo consultant but my GP/DSN disagree so I only have the absent for the last 2 years DSN! Fortunately I feel a responsibility to keep things under control and have invested in Dexcom but god only knows what my BP, cholesterol and Thyroid are up to?!
When you say “my GP/DSN” do you mean the nurse at the GPs surgery who sees the diabetics? Going by NICE guidelines T1s should be handled by the local diabetes specialist clinic. As LADA you are essentially a T1. You are entitled to ask for a referral which should not be refused out of hand as otherwise they are denying you access to technology which can only be prescribed from the clinic. I would put your case in writing.
 
When you say “my GP/DSN” do you mean the nurse at the GPs surgery who sees the diabetics? Going by NICE guidelines T1s should be handled by the local diabetes specialist clinic. As LADA you are essentially a T1. You are entitled to ask for a referral which should not be refused out of hand as otherwise they are denying you access to technology which can only be prescribed from the clinic. I would put your case in writing.
Hi Patti, thank you for your reply and yes I meant my DSN at my GP surgery. I’m familiar with the NICE guidelines on T1 but when I requested referral to an Endo my request was shot down twice by both my GP and DSN saying it was not an appropriate referral as my care was being provided by my CCG…. Or not as the last couple of years has evidenced!
 
DSN: Continued with phone and email contact. I do have a face to face in November which is the first time since covid started.

Consultant: Appointment in Sept 2020 and another last week, due to concerns though I have been given some advice and told I’m on the list to have a face to face in 4 months time.

Feet: Annual check in December 2020, saw Podiatrist in January and April 2021, no details about annual check this year yet.

Eyes: I don’t get annual check because I’m under the hospital, I receive 6 monthly appointments, which include photographs, so I get them more often and this has continued as normal.

GP: Has always been there for any advice.
Excellent that you have had seamless engagement from your healthcare provider despite the rubbish situation that’s been ongoing… Yay for Geordie healthcare!
 
I’ve had 6 monthly phone calls from a DSN who could see my Libre results online, but she’s never been that much help as she was not “pump trained”. She has now left and I don’t know if there is a replacement for her. In any case I think the access to my Libre results was specific to the one who left. I’ve had one telephone consultation with the Endo since June 2019 and not had a retinopathy appointment since May 2019. Haven’t had my feet felt since the start of lockdown. In the event I’m not particularly worried as control is pretty good, but I am somewhat concerned that no one has contacted me about a new pump when the warranty on mine runs out on 17November.
I’m shocked that your previous DSN had no knowledge of pump usage or education (To be honest I think my DSN would take the same stance) I know here in the U.K. that most diabetes patients needing insulin therapy treat with MDI because that is the treatment that is offered 1st line but the truth is Diabetes treatment has moved on and some patients prefer to pump. I’m pharmacy staff at a children’s hospital and a paediatric diabetes nurse recently asked me about the possibility of pharmacy filling patients insulin pumps (because their doses are so tiny) with measured insulin/Sodium chloride so these patients can easily calculate bolus doses when needed. I am excited!
 
Sodium chloride as in saline drip? Don't understand how it could be infused subcutaneously, it's normally venous and when the cannula slips out of the vein you just get a soaked swollen area of skin about twice the size it should be and/or a soggy wet bed until someone more sensible comes and sticks it into another vein.
 
Sodium chloride as in saline drip? Don't understand how it could be infused subcutaneously, it's normally venous and when the cannula slips out of the vein you just get a soaked swollen area of skin about twice the size it should be and/or a soggy wet bed until someone more sensible comes and sticks it into another vein.
Don’t they put saline solution into a pump when you first get one, as a practice before you go 'live' with insulin? I’ve seen new pump users referring to it on here.
 
I’m shocked that your previous DSN had no knowledge of pump usage or education (To be honest I think my DSN would take the same stance) I know here in the U.K. that most diabetes patients needing insulin therapy treat with MDI because that is the treatment that is offered 1st line but the truth is Diabetes treatment has moved on and some patients prefer to pump. I’m pharmacy staff at a children’s hospital and a paediatric diabetes nurse recently asked me about the possibility of pharmacy filling patients insulin pumps (because their doses are so tiny) with measured insulin/Sodium chloride so these patients can easily calculate bolus doses when needed. I am excited!
In my diabetes clinic, we have DSNs who specialise in pumps. Most DSNs in my clinic do not know about pumps
 
My GP surgery has been wonderful, with regular calls to arrange all the normal diabetic tests, as you can see from my signature. I have spoken on the phone to my diabetic nurse every 3 months, plus follow up calls when when my medication has been changed. I cannot praise them too highly, not only for their diabetic service during COVID, but for well organised vaccination and flu jab programmes. They also host various other tests at their surgery, such as eye tests over the weekends, when they are normally closed.
 
I’m shocked that your previous DSN had no knowledge of pump usage or education (To be honest I think my DSN would take the same stance) I know here in the U.K. that most diabetes patients needing insulin therapy treat with MDI because that is the treatment that is offered 1st line but the truth is Diabetes treatment has moved on and some patients prefer to pump. I’m pharmacy staff at a children’s hospital and a paediatric diabetes nurse recently asked me about the possibility of pharmacy filling patients insulin pumps (because their doses are so tiny) with measured insulin/Sodium chloride so these patients can easily calculate bolus doses when needed. I am excited!
As @helli says there are trained pump nurses at the clinic I am under at the County hospital, but there are DSNs who have clinics at local cottage hospitals. I was sent to see the one in the nearby town by the Endo as he insisted that due to my low Hba1c I must be having too many hypos. He is a pompous man who, despite authorising Libre does not look at time in range to see that I wasn’t having numerous hypos. As I said, a bit of a waste of time. She did qualify in pump therapy just before she left for another area! I have no idea if she is being replaced, but I have an appointment now with the oump nurse on 23 November to discuss my replacement pump.

You refer to the DSN at your GPs, but generally the nurses who see the diabetics at GPs are not DSNs, they have some training yes, mainly in care of T2s, but proper DSNs are trained to a much much higher level. I would object to not being given a referral in writing in the grounds that they are barring you from accessing current diabetic technology for which you should be able to apply at least. It’s not so much a matter of preferring to pump, it’s whether you can get one and if it will make a significant improvement to your control that couldn’t be achieved on MDI.
 
Sodium chloride as in saline drip? Don't understand how it could be infused subcutaneously, it's normally venous and when the cannula slips out of the vein you just get a soaked swollen area of skin about twice the size it should be and/or a soggy wet bed until someone more sensible comes and sticks it into another vein.
With babies/toddlers on pumps their dosing is so tiny that insulin alone would be impossible to dose without being diluted.
 
Well - I did wonder if that was that reason, but didn't know what on earth insulin could be diluted with which could be infused simultaneously. Hence a question - as most pumps need frequent replacement of the reservoirs themselves to avoid contamination from the plastic they are made of, that won't change so once the kiddies are out of hospital and back at home - who fills the reservoirs then? And what with and why can't fully trained paediatric nurses do this if parents can?
 
Well - I did wonder if that was that reason, but didn't know what on earth insulin could be diluted with which could be infused simultaneously. Hence a question - as most pumps need frequent replacement of the reservoirs themselves to avoid contamination from the plastic they are made of, that won't change so once the kiddies are out of hospital and back at home - who fills the reservoirs then? And what with and why can't fully trained paediatric nurses do this if parents can?
Apparently it’s the hospital pharmacy staff that fill the pumps. It’s a trial going on at Alder Hey and another hospital (not sure which one) so I assume that the pumps need filling and replacing every 3 days. My boss is looking into whether this would be financially viable for us to take on at the kiddies hospital I work at in Central London. I think because it’s a trial it won’t be rolled out to Paed nurses until data proves that it benefits the patients but also as pharmacy professionals we need to confirm the dilution is correct and that it can be replicated by other healthcare professionals or in the future, parents. It’s all up in the air at the moment so I look forward to what’s to come (Ie closed looping etc)!
 
My 6 month review during lockdown was cancelled by letter, but I then received another letter a week afterwards stating "I tried to call you at the arranged time of your consultation, but you did not reply...", which was confusing and annoying in equal measure. I have since had my eye screening and a consultation without any issues. The consultant actually said most appointments did not take place because of issues similar to the one I encountered. Not had my meeting with the DSN (feet etc) for over 18 months now though.
 
No had no contact in regards covid and had no support for diabetes from my g.
 
As @helli says there are trained pump nurses at the clinic I am under at the County hospital, but there are DSNs who have clinics at local cottage hospitals. I was sent to see the one in the nearby town by the Endo as he insisted that due to my low Hba1c I must be having too many hypos. He is a pompous man who, despite authorising Libre does not look at time in range to see that I wasn’t having numerous hypos. As I said, a bit of a waste of time. She did qualify in pump therapy just before she left for another area! I have no idea if she is being replaced, but I have an appointment now with the oump nurse on 23 November to discuss my replacement pump.

You refer to the DSN at your GPs, but generally the nurses who see the diabetics at GPs are not DSNs, they have some training yes, mainly in care of T2s, but proper DSNs are trained to a much much higher level. I would object to not being given a referral in writing in the grounds that they are barring you from accessing current diabetic technology for which you should be able to apply at least. It’s not so much a matter of preferring to pump, it’s whether you can get one and if it will make a significant improvement to your control that couldn’t be achieved on MDI.
Ok I understand now. I met a couple of actual real life DSNs at the T1 Ed course I did and they were brilliant, really knowledgeable and one of them said I should be under the care of an Endo. I did have doubts about the diabetes nurse at my gp practice when she phoned me to tell me she was going to have me taken off the monitoring register. She called back 2 days later to tell me the spec. Diabetes gp refused her request. Maybe if I were T2 and in remission/well controlled that would make sense but that’s not the case?! Wtf?! I will pluck up the courage to write to my gp asking for a referral. Thank you for your very wise advice @Pattidevans.
 
Ok I understand now. I met a couple of actual real life DSNs at the T1 Ed course I did and they were brilliant, really knowledgeable and one of them said I should be under the care of an Endo. I did have doubts about the diabetes nurse at my gp practice when she phoned me to tell me she was going to have me taken off the monitoring register. She called back 2 days later to tell me the spec. Diabetes gp refused her request. Maybe if I were T2 and in remission/well controlled that would make sense but that’s not the case?! Wtf?! I will pluck up the courage to write to my gp asking for a referral. Thank you for your very wise advice @Pattidevans.
Let us know how you get on Leo.
 
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