Group 7-day waking average?

Morning all. Libre alarm woke me this morning with a 4.4 and i've been in target all night. Yay!!!
@MeeTooTeeTwo congrats on the HS
@SueEK enjoy your party
Have a good day everyone.
 
Robin said:
Morning all, 4.9 here at 6.30, went back to sleep and now I'm 6.9. Thank you Dawn. Abandoned plans to visit Rievaulx Abbey and York on the way home yesterday as weather was so foul. Good excuse to have another holiday there some time. Bonus was that we got home for a late lunch, I tipped all the clothes into the washing machine and then the tumble dryer, so I don't have that to face today (just the ironing).
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Oh that was a shame. The weather has been truly awful this week. We lit the fire yesterday! Never mind, as you say, good excuse for a return visit.
 
4.7 for me this morning, off for my Hba1c this morning, and managed to lose 2.5lb this week.

Hope you all have a great weekend, it is my nice weekend as it is hubby's weekend off, which he only gets in weekend off a month.
 
SueEK said:
7.2 and party day today. Weather still not looking good. Hubby is taking gazebo up, hope people bring wellies and mackintoshs as looks like they may be needed. Weather map shows dry everywhere except the south coast - damn it. My daughter has worked really hard and everything looks lovely. Have a good day all x
@MeeTooTeeTwo congrats on the HS x
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What time do you want us all round do we bring a bottle 😉 I normally buy cheap wine from Aldi then drink the hosts expensive stuff.
 
Good morning everyone 🙂

9.0 - waking this morning
5.1 - before bed
 
I woke with a 3.3. But, i did experiment going to bed a bit lower at 5.6 to see if that was something I could pull off and aparantly it isn't!

Anyway, quite chuffed with myself. Went for dafne pre assessment yesterday and the nurse seemed shocked by my hba1c (probably because it was so high for so long). She saw my last pre assessment from 1 year ago which was 71 (8.6) and and this one was 57 (7.4). I'm pretty happy as I've had a shaky few weeks and wonder how much further dafne can help me bring it down!

@Maca44 I feel your pain- but maybe you could try growing some plants yourself? The seedlings take up minimal space and you can get em out there when it eventually stops, it had to doesn't it???
 
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5.9 for me this morning but only because I jabbed myself 3 correction units a couple of hours earlier for a whopping 12.3 (A combination of eating a bit too much protein at bedtime ((for some reason I was craving meat so had some left over mince)) and this DP thing which I am not impressed about.... I want my FOTF back instead) and then went back to sleep. Feels so much better starting the day on a good number even if I have to cheat to get it!

@Spozkins Many congratulations on your fantastic HbA1c improvement. Even if DAFNE doesn't help you improve it much, the knowledge you gain will help to keep you safer and it is just such a positive experience and spending time with other Type 1s is a fantastic opportunity to share experiences and feel more normal.

@Lanny So pleased you are feeling a bit better. Those high rev counts you were getting were worrying especially with your compromised breathing. Take it slow and steady. Relieved your test came back negative.

@mum2westiesGill Were those evening and morning readings Libre scans or finger pricks? What did you eat after the 5.1 at bedtime to bring you up as that is quite relevant to mention, otherwise it makes it looks like your basal insulin isn't high enough which may not be the case.
It may be that having just lowered your basal dose you need slightly less carbs at bedtime to bring you up... maybe just half of what you usually have.
Your overnight Libre graph trace can show you if that morning reading of 9 is due to Dawn Phenomenon if the graph shows a rise in the morning or that the carbs were too much if it rises up just after bed and then stays high all night..... or perhaps a bit of both.
 
rebrascora said:
@mum2westiesGill Were those evening and morning readings Libre scans or finger pricks? What did you eat after the 5.1 at bedtime to bring you up as that is quite relevant to mention, otherwise it makes it looks like your basal insulin isn't high enough which may not be the case.
It may be that having just lowered your basal dose you need slightly less carbs at bedtime to bring you up... maybe just half of what you usually have.
Your overnight Libre graph trace can show you if that morning reading of 9 is due to Dawn Phenomenon if the graph shows a rise in the morning or that the carbs were too much if it rises up just after bed and then stays high all night..... or perhaps a bit of both.
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Hi @rebrascora the evening and morning readings were both finger pricks. At 9:00pm late teatime because of a chinese takeaway my bg was 5.1 then at 22:52pm my bg was 3.7 so I ate 4 jelly babies but also had 2 bags of crisps 18g of carbs. Bedtime was back to 5.1 and because my bg was lower than 8mmol I couldn't resist a salmon sandwich which was 1 round of hovis 18g of carbs.
 
mum2westiesGill said:
Hi @rebrascora the evening and morning readings were both finger pricks. At 9:00pm late teatime because of a chinese takeaway my bg was 5.1 then at 22:52pm my bg was 3.7 so I ate 4 jelly babies but also had 2 bags of crisps 18g of carbs. Bedtime was back to 5.1 and because my bg was lower than 8mmol I couldn't resist a salmon sandwich which was 1 round of hovis 18g of carbs.
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Looks like you could have done with splitting the dose for the Chinese meal and having half the bolus before you ate and half afterwards to prevent that hypo. Unfortunately the carbs in many takeaways release more slowly due to the fat content so the insulin hits your system before the glucose does if you inject all the insulin before the meal and you can end up hypo as you did on this occasion. The carbs are still there though in your digestive system so they spike your BG levels later in the night. Because you have also taken on board so many extra carbs with the jelly babies and crisps and then a salmon sandwich (Blooming heck! That's a lot of food to eat after a late Chinese takeaway!) all those extra carbs have taken you too high.
The problem has almost certainly been caused by the slower release carbs in the Chinese meal rather than you miscalculating the bolus dose. Pizza has a similar effect and many people find that injecting half their insulin for the meal before they start eating and half afterwards works well. So if your bolus for the Chinese meal was say 8 units of Humalog, injecting 4units before you eat and then the other 4units afterwards.... maybe an hour after you first started eating.... would help to match the insulin to the glucose release from the carbs and prevent that hypo and then you over eating later and your levels then going too high.

I appreciate that this is the opposite of what I was saying about breakfast bolus on your other thread but this is where different times of day and different types of food can make a big difference to the timing of the insulin injection and the impact that has on your levels. Libre really helps you to understand this if you know how to use the data from it effectively.
Hopefully you also scanned with the Libre at bedtime and when you woke up in order to capture all the overnight data?
 
rebrascora said:
Looks like you could have done with splitting the dose for the Chinese meal and having half the bolus before you ate and half afterwards to prevent that hypo. Unfortunately the carbs in many takeaways release more slowly due to the fat content so the insulin hits your system before the glucose does if you inject all the insulin before the meal and you can end up hypo as you did on this occasion. The carbs are still there though in your digestive system so they spike your BG levels later in the night. Because you have also taken on board so many extra carbs with the jelly babies and crisps and then a salmon sandwich (Blooming heck! That's a lot of food to eat after a late Chinese takeaway!) all those extra carbs have taken you too high.
The problem has almost certainly been caused by the slower release carbs in the Chinese meal rather than you miscalculating the bolus dose. Pizza has a similar effect and many people find that injecting half their insulin for the meal before they start eating and half afterwards works well. So if your bolus for the Chinese meal was say 8 units of Humalog, injecting 4units before you eat and then the other 4units afterwards.... maybe an hour after you first started eating.... would help to match the insulin to the glucose release from the carbs and prevent that hypo and then you over eating later and your levels then going too high.

I appreciate that this is the opposite of what I was saying about breakfast bolus on your other thread but this is where different times of day and different types of food can make a big difference to the timing of the insulin injection and the impact that has on your levels. Libre really helps you to understand this if you know how to use the data from it effectively.
Hopefully you also scanned with the Libre at bedtime and when you woke up in order to capture all the overnight data?
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With chinese I'm never sure how much I'm going to eat
 
mum2westiesGill said:
With chinese I'm never sure how much I'm going to eat
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All the more reason to split your dose and inject some(half) before you eat and then see how much you did actually eat and adjust/reduce the second half of the dose if necessary to account for any you didn't eat or more that you did eat.
 
rebrascora said:
All the more reason to split your dose and inject some(half) before you eat and then see how much you did actually eat and adjust/reduce the second half of the dose if necessary to account for any you didn't eat or more that you did eat.
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Last night I tested before I ate then worked out the carbs after I'd finished eating then injected
 
mum2westiesGill said:
Last night I tested before I ate then worked out the carbs after I'd finished eating then injected
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Ok, well that is a good tactic too, so if that is what you did, then perhaps it was a slight miscalculation of carbs which caused your hypo afterwards.
 
rebrascora said:
Ok, well that is a good tactic too, so if that is what you did, then perhaps it was a slight miscalculation of carbs which caused your hypo afterwards.
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@rebrascora I use the carbs and cals app for chinese and I weigh out the prawn fried rice which is actually egg fried rice on carbs and cals - I wonder wether to maybe just enter a few less carbs next time or just not have chinese again
 
mum2westiesGill said:
@rebrascora I use the carbs and cals app for chinese and I weigh out the prawn fried rice which is actually egg fried rice on carbs and cals - I wonder wether to maybe just enter a few less carbs next time or just not have chinese again
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It would be a shame to miss out on Chinese if you enjoy it. I would use it as an excuse/opportunity to experiment more and try a lower dose next time or inject your insulin maybe an hour after starting to eat but make sure you start the meal earlier in the evening so you have more time afterwards to do corrections.
The more times you have the same meal and try different doses/timings or portion sizes, the better you will get at figuring out the best way to manage your BG levels with it.
 
Good dry morning to you all. Yes it has stopped raining. In fact yesterday was so sunny we went to the beach. Sadly it was a bit windy and that wind had a real chill on it. Didn't stop us relaxing and enjoying the time out.

5.4 for me this morning. If I had just waited a few minutes it would have possibly been a house special. Still, 5.4 is good.

Not much to do today. Looking at some VBA code to mess around with charts automatically. Ohhh, I do have some fun.
 
4.7 for me today. 🙂
It's a bit drizzly outside at the moment. So, I'll exercise my old brain with the Sunday cryptic crossword.

Dez
 
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