A surprised Newb here

[s'nic]

Manji - if unsure of what you are looking for on a packet, look for a list - you want the "per 100g", and regarding diabetes, check the carbs/sugar - this is off a pack of stir fry veg (easy to throw in a pan with some sliced chicken). You can always add another favourite veg too if you wanted.

 

[manji]

@manji you are still on the lower slopes of diabetes, a few changes might do the trick - choosing a lower carb version of the yoghurt, there are some low carb frozen stir fries - handy to toss into a pan to eat with almost anything, and vege mixes - they vary quite a lot depending on the things they contain - sweetcorn is something to watch out for as it raises the carb value quite a lot. I buy ones from Lidl. There are three types, and you probably can manage all three - I only buy the two with the lowest carbs as I need to make every gram count.
Mushrooms are low carb, and maybe you could try swede instead of potato - I chop a whole one into slices and do it in a pressure cooker until it is soft enough to mash. I make bubble and squeak with the leftovers - adding egg and frying it to eat with bacon, or mixing in cheese as well as eggs, more cheese on top and them into the oven to get a light tan.
It isn't exactly a life of privation and denial, this diabetes lark.
I eat at about 12 hourly intervals, I really could not manage more.

That’s one of my questions. When you look at the Kcal and all the other dietary stuff on the side of food containers is the Carb rating the only one to look for ?
The other issue is currently still housebound not for much longer but I have to get a weekly Sainsbury’s delivery Lidl don’t do deliveries. When I ordered in this weeks I was scrolling through various food without any idea what I was looking for ?
Another thing you mentioned bacon ? Confused again. Thought that was a no no.
The one thing I did order in were fresh mushrooms. Love em then I thought what do I do with them ? I know you can fry them but what with. You have no idea how clueless I am about cooking .

 

[manji]

@manji you are still on the lower slopes of diabetes, a few changes might do the trick - choosing a lower carb version of the yoghurt, there are some low carb frozen stir fries - handy to toss into a pan to eat with almost anything, and vege mixes - they vary quite a lot depending on the things they contain - sweetcorn is something to watch out for as it raises the carb value quite a lot. I buy ones from Lidl. There are three types, and you probably can manage all three - I only buy the two with the lowest carbs as I need to make every gram count.
Mushrooms are low carb, and maybe you could try swede instead of potato - I chop a whole one into slices and do it in a pressure cooker until it is soft enough to mash. I make bubble and squeak with the leftovers - adding egg and frying it to eat with bacon, or mixing in cheese as well as eggs, more cheese on top and them into the oven to get a light tan.
It isn't exactly a life of privation and denial, this diabetes lark.
I eat at about 12 hourly intervals, I really could not manage more.

Just googled low carb stir fries =zero. Thought I have another crack at Sainsburys site = zero

 

[s'nic]

I'd ignore the 'Energy kJ' / 'Energy kcal'.
For diabetes, limiting/avoiding sugar is pretty clear. Carbs may be less clear, but when you eat them, your body turns them to sugar. So sugar and carbs are the primary ones.
If you have high cholesterol or your doctor has advised you on fats then you would need to look at both 'Fat', and especially 'of which saturates'

So basically for diabetes its carb and sugar, anything else depends on your health conditions / doctors advice. Of course we are all advised not to have too much salt.

You often see this type of label (below) in bigger print clearly on the front of a label - the things many people will want to eat / avoid are clearly signposted. It's a traffic light system - Green is all clear, yellow/amber is caution, and red for danger (ok, not real danger, but easy to remember). Red shows where something (sugar on this label) is higher than advised. This is the 'quick reference' label, the label on the back of a pack showing 'per 100g' is the full details

 

[manji]

This is a pack of Sainsbury’s Stir Fry, a big pack chuck in freezer . This ones good yes ? I can have chicken with it I guess. I have got frozen chicken pieces in freezer

 

[s'nic]

Another thing you mentioned bacon ? Confused again. Thought that was a no no.
The one thing I did order in were fresh mushrooms. Love em then I thought what do I do with them ? I know you can fry them but what with. You have no idea how clueless I am about cooking .

bacon is not an issue, assuming if doesn't go against advice for a different health issue.
For the sainsbury stir fry - their site isn't set up to search for low carb. Just search it for stir fry vegetables and you will see them.
Their quick reference traffic light label shows all green (this will be true of most stir fry veg)
To be honest I've looked at a number of different online grocery sites. The best filters I have seen so far is tesco. I'm not a huge fan of them, but heck, their filters are GOOD.

 

[Leadinglights]

Just googled low carb stir fries =zero. Thought I have another crack at Sainsburys site = zero

Something like frozen vegetable medley would be only 9g carbs per 100g which you could add some mushrooms and chicken or pork for a stir fry.
If you bought some courgettes or Mangetout you could add those as well.
The information you are looking for is the carbohydrate value in the nutritional information on the back of the pack usually not the traffic light system on the front as it only sugar as being red, orange or green and many foods can be low sugar but very high carb.

 

[Leadinglights]

This is a pack of Sainsbury’s Stir Fry, a big pack chuck in freezer . This ones good yes ? I can have chicken with it I guess. I have got frozen chicken pieces in freezer

Splendid choice, yes you can have chicken, pork, prawns, well any meat or fish you like.

 

[manji]

I'd ignore the 'Energy kJ' / 'Energy kcal'.
For diabetes, limiting/avoiding sugar is pretty clear. Carbs may be less clear, but when you eat them, your body turns them to sugar. So sugar and carbs are the primary ones.
If you have high cholesterol or your doctor has advised you on fats then you would need to look at both 'Fat', and especially 'of which saturates'

So basically for diabetes its carb and sugar, anything else depends on your health conditions / doctors advice. Of course we are all advised not to have too much salt.

You often see this type of label (below) in bigger print clearly on the front of a label - the things many people will want to eat / avoid are clearly signposted. It's a traffic light system - Green is all clear, yellow/amber is caution, and red for danger (ok, not real danger, but easy to remember). Red shows where something (sugar on this label) is higher than advised. This is the 'quick reference' label, the label on the back of a pack showing 'per 100g' is the full details

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As always my GP is very good at job sharing . At every available chance things are dumped on one of the nurses. Head nurse phoned me with news and referred to this site . I’m getting a visit from a nurse who’s a “diabetes “ expert. She’s going to look at my feet and teach me how to check them. I mean seriously. I’m very cynical about the NHS after the stroke fiasco. There’s nothing wrong with my feet. I don’t expect much from my visit . I’ve started to see how they operate. I have blood test , my rating goes over the 49 to 51. An algorithm warns them. Phone call made doesn’t matter if it’s helpful, then waste of time visit logged. Tick , really how the NHS operate.
Anyway the pics helpful but I still don’t understand the Kcal bit is it relevant ?

 

[s'nic]

the kcal bit is basically how much energy that amount of that food provides, I'm pretty sure 99.9% shoppers ignore that bit

The checking feet thing, as I understand it, is because people with diabetes can get nerve damage, which is VERY serious, so yup, you do need to pay attention to that bit.

 

[manji]

Splendid choice, yes you can have chicken, pork, prawns, well any meat or fish you like.

Thanks to you lot seriously thanks. I think I’m getting there . I wish I could find that chart on the main page again I should have screenshot it . Had Green obviously good stuff , amber ok but not too much of course red avoid. I was under the impression meat was a no no .
I went to bed feeling overwhelmed. I will be retiring soon . It’s been a much more productive day.
Tommorow we discus Omelettes and Fried Eggs. Fried eggs are ok but clearly you can’t have toast. Surely there’s some sort of bread replacement? Thank you all and goodnight .

 

[s'nic]

I wish I could find that chart on the main page again I should have screenshot it . Had Green obviously good stuff , amber ok but not too much of course red avoid.

Remember the traffic light stuff on the front is just a quick indication.
The per 100g on the back has the details, the front never shows carbs

Also the traffic lights are a little imperfect I think - eg for a sauce you would only add a small amount of, it's not so important if one of the symbols was red (unless you added that item everyday, to absolutely everything you ate)

 

[Leadinglights]

Thanks to you lot seriously thanks. I think I’m getting there . I wish I could find that chart on the main page again I should have screenshot it . Had Green obviously good stuff , amber ok but not too much of course red avoid. I was under the impression meat was a no no .
I went to bed feeling overwhelmed. I will be retiring soon . It’s been a much more productive day.
Tommorow we discus Omelettes and Fried Eggs. Fried eggs are ok but clearly you can’t have toast. Surely there’s some sort of bread replacement? Thank you all and goodnight .

I'm not sure where you get the idea that meat is a NO NO as meat is pretty well zero carbs, I think the idea is you should restrict the amount of processed meat products just as non diabetics should perhaps be doing.
Even high meat content sausages are low carb some are only 2g carb per sausage.
Some people can manage 1 small slice of toast.
That is the value of having a blood glucose monitor so you can test the effect of your meals on your blood glucose as it tells you both what it is unwise to have and what you can safely tolerate.

 

[Drummer]

Thanks to you lot seriously thanks. I think I’m getting there . I wish I could find that chart on the main page again I should have screenshot it . Had Green obviously good stuff , amber ok but not too much of course red avoid. I was under the impression meat was a no no .
I went to bed feeling overwhelmed. I will be retiring soon . It’s been a much more productive day.
Tommorow we discus Omelettes and Fried Eggs. Fried eggs are ok but clearly you can’t have toast. Surely there’s some sort of bread replacement? Thank you all and goodnight .

The traffic light system - chocolate tea pot when it comes to type 2 control, It doesn't show carbs, which is what we need to know, so it is out with the magnifying glass and search the chart on the ack to get the full picture.
We need protein and fats to survive, the carbs are for texture, flavour and variety.
Meat, fish, cheese and dairy, eggs - all good.
I do simmer bacon in hot water for a minute before sieving it out and throwing away the water along with the soluble chemicals extracted from the meat. I then fry the bacon. I keep the fat from the joints of meat I cook, cleaning it by melting it in hot water and allowing it to set, otherwise it can go mouldy or 'off'.
Plain old fashioned cookery seems to work best for type 2s, even baked cakes and buns can be made in low carb versions the website sugarfreelondoner seems a good source of recipes.
My breakfast tomorrow will be mushrooms and some of the roast pork we had for dinner today.
That reminds be, I must go and put it in the fridge now it has cooled down and set the dishwasher going, then go to bed.
I'll be off down to Lidl tomorrow on the mobility scooter - and to the folk club. It gets me out of the house and around the town - it is so cheap to run too. Parking can be a real problem in tourist areas, and so expensive if you can find a spot in the first place.

 

[manji]

Me again I’ve been browsing items I have. I’m sure I was initially advised to start drinking full fat milk and no Almond milk and I was checking my cheese ( for some reason I’ve always avoided the low fat ) I was surprised to see these.

 

[manji]

And the cheese and the milk are OK am I correct ? I don’t drink a lot of the milk and I occasionally enjoy a basic cheese on toast. Normally 3 pieces of toast. Replacing bread is going to be an issue. Then I thinking I have a couple of slices of bread every couple of days. See how maybe I’m overthinking but if I’m checking the carbs on everything thing I buy from now on I’m going to be OK surely. I’m not going to be put on meds or anything.

 

[s'nic]

Eating some cheese is not an issue for diabetes. You mentioned your stroke - did you have any food or diet advice for that?

The alpro almond milk will have gone through quite a bit of processing (read the ingredients list - it has a lot of stuff in it), the processing would explain zero figures.

 

[manji]

Diet advice for the stroke not really as I may have mentioned just after it happened I had a full health check and came up as in good health. I may have mentioned it elsewhere it was put down to long term stress and OCD style overworking that made perfect sense to me. Heavy duty long term stress has now been accepted as one of the main factors.
Today I’ve tried to keep a record of my eating , should have recorded properly.
Anyway this morning a couple of large spoonfuls of the dodgy youghurt. Couple of coffees I like my expresso never ever had milk or sugar with it.
I drink a fair bit of water. Good for you in loads of ways even makes your Nuero. Receptors more effective. Lunchtime had a medium bowl of Fuel granola with some basic muesli ( about 60g of carbs, high ) with semi-skimmed milk.sure I read on the first day I should change to normal milk. Afternoon can of low sugar red bull diluted with water . Evening 3/sausages ( about 4g of carbs ) with half a pack of savoury rice( about 29g carb) finally couple of bananas ( again I’m sure I was told not to eat them ) and a small bowl of frozen strawberries with a couple of dollaps of yoghurt.
Probably have an apple later. At the moment I’m eating food in the house that Fuel granola I would assume I will have to stop but it’s expensive and I’m not chucking it out. Should have been more specific.
From tomorrow I’m going to log it on my IPhone as I go.

 

[manji]

Eating some cheese is not an issue for diabetes. You mentioned your stroke - did you have any food or diet advice for that?

The alpro almond milk will have gone through quite a bit of processing (read the ingredients list - it has a lot of stuff in it), the processing would explain zero figures.

That’s thrown me because I would have immediately thought it was OK what else am I looking out for ? Do I just ditch the fancy milk and go for although your various standard milks semi skimmed etc seem pretty much the same carb wise but the Almond seems really low am I missing something?

 

[s'nic]

That’s thrown me because I would have immediately thought it was OK what else am I looking out for ? Do I just ditch the fancy milk and go for although your various standard milks semi skimmed etc seem pretty much the same carb wise but the Almond seems really low am I missing something?

The milk would be a personal choice - if you are happy with the milk itself, and with the ingredients list then it's fine 🙂