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Who has had their first jab?

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Mum has had both jabs, first one before Christmas aged 84. She has also had a letter asking her to take part in research.

I had a phone call this morning to ask if I wanted the jab and it's booked for Saturday 6th aged 60 and group 4
Mum's in Devon and I'm in Cornwall, both at the same practice. I think the practice managed about 1100 jabs yesterday no idea for Saturday though.
 
My parents live down south, not far from Northerner’s old stomping ground. Dad (77, not clinically vulnerable) had his first dose on January 6 and is still waiting to hear when he will get the second. Mum (76, clinically extremely vulnerable) has her first one booked for this Thursday and already has the second booked for 3 months time. My in-laws live just south of us in the East Midlands. Father-in-law (80) has had his first dose i think a couple of weeks ago, but mother in law (76) has yet to hear about hers. We will be right at the bottom of the list, hubby is mid 50s and not vulnerable, I’m not yet 50 and not vulnerable, and daughter is under 16 so presumably won’t get one at all as none of the vaccines are licensed for under 16s I think.
 
grovesy said:
I heard a lady about 2 weeks ago ring into a radio phone in , she had both her doses and had been contacted by one of the London Universities to take part in a post vaccine study. They were testing her regularly for antibodies.
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Sounds good. Was listening to the radio this morning and in Perth they had one new Coronovirus 19 case and everyone in the vacinity was given a list of all possible contacts with this person and a test. They maybe smaller numbers but they have really got their eye on the ball and are set up for it. I just want everyone to be safe as do we all. The Isle of Man has stopped all cross border entries and is almost operating normally. So stay safe everyone.
 
NotPink said:
Sounds good. Was listening to the radio this morning and in Perth they had one new Coronovirus 19 case and everyone in the vacinity was given a list of all possible contacts with this person and a test. They maybe smaller numbers but they have really got their eye on the ball and are set up for it. I just want everyone to be safe as do we all. The Isle of Man has stopped all cross border entries and is almost operating normally. So stay safe everyone.
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I heard that too.
 
CivicFreak said:
I fail to see how they can have amassed enough data to be certain the vaccine is safe for the masses.

I'll see how things go, but for now I advise people to approach with caution, and know the full facts i.e. the ingredients, interactions with current medications etc. before diving in.
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Hi @CivicFreak , I can totally understand your comments above but what is the alternative to getting out of a world wide pandemic? It's unlikely that the data you suggest we check is available. I'm putting my faith in the scientists, not the politicians, and although everyone may have reservations I'm not sure there is any credible alternative to a vaccine and we don't have the luxury of time to wait for longer trials.
 
Christy said:
Hi @CivicFreak , I can totally understand your comments above but what is the alternative to getting out of a world wide pandemic? It's unlikely that the data you suggest we check is available. I'm putting my faith in the scientists, not the politicians, and although everyone may have reservations I'm not sure there is any credible alternative to a vaccine and we don't have the luxury of time to wait for longer trials.
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Hi,

I am not saying what others should do - everyone should have the choice to take the vaccine or not, and should not be judged either way.

My concern is more around the long term effects of an untested vaccine. It may be that it could be beneficial in the short term but longer term it may cause more health complications than it cures. Of course the opposite also may be true. However, I don't like taking any more drugs than I need to. I am relatively young (40 this year) and I have a strong immune system, so I am willing to wait. Some may deem this selfish, but I am not willing to take a risk on a largely untested drug.

Everyone should make an informed choice, and not one based purely on the notion of getting their lives back (government have already stated this will not be the case, even after having the vaccine).

The long term health implications are currently unknown, and as such this is not a risk I am willing to take. Hopefully the vaccine will prove effective with little to no adverse effects, but only time will tell.

I absolutely would not tell anyone else what they should and shouldn't do, but a little caution never hurt anyone.
 
CivicFreak said:
Hi,

I am not saying what others should do - everyone should have the choice to take the vaccine or not, and should not be judged either way.

My concern is more around the long term effects of an untested vaccine. It may be that it could be beneficial in the short term but longer term it may cause more health complications than it cures. Of course the opposite also may be true. However, I don't like taking any more drugs than I need to. I am relatively young (40 this year) and I have a strong immune system, so I am willing to wait. Some may deem this selfish, but I am not willing to take a risk on a largely untested drug.

Everyone should make an informed choice, and not one based purely on the notion of getting their lives back (government have already stated this will not be the case, even after having the vaccine).

The long term health implications are currently unknown, and as such this is not a risk I am willing to take. Hopefully the vaccine will prove effective with little to no adverse effects, but only time will tell.

I absolutely would not tell anyone else what they should and shouldn't do, but a little caution never hurt anyone.
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I must agree that it should be a free choice, but I still think yours is a selfish attitude leaving it to others to prove it will work to help you. I wonder how you would feel if (God forbid ) you were admitted to hospital with the virus and the medical staff made the decision that it was not worth treating you because you do not trust them to administer vaccine until it's proved safe by everyone else, after all your only young at 40 and have a strong immune system, let's leave him in a side ward and test his theory for others.
 
As long as you don't want to mix with others and remain isolated (cos let's face it, who's going to want to mix with you in the foreseeable future?) it might be OK.
 
If you’re under 40 and healthy you'll be last on the list to get one anyway.
 
@CivicFreak I am confused by your comment that you have a strong immune system.
I understood Type 1 was an auto-IMMUNE disease.

This is the reason I am not willing take the short term risk.
However, as I am about 10 years older than you maybe the longer term impacts are less of a concern.

Good luck with the decision you take and stay safe.
 
Sally71 said:
If you’re under 40 and healthy you'll be last on the list to get one anyway.
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Everyone with Type 1 (or type 2) diabetes are considered to be clinically vulnerable so will be on the Tier 6 list.
 
I had mine on Friday in Herts. It was a very slick operation held in a local hall. I had the AZ vaccine and felt dreadful on Saturday. I slept most of the day and had a headache and shivers. A lot better on Sunday and fine on Monday
 
helli said:
@CivicFreak I am confused by your comment that you have a strong immune system.
I understood Type 1 was an auto-IMMUNE disease.

This is the reason I am not willing take the short term risk.
However, as I am about 10 years older than you maybe the longer term impacts are less of a concern.

Good luck with the decision you take and stay safe.
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Type 1 is autoimmune yes. I take insulin, but generally health is good. My diabetes is under control and I look after myself. Just becaue you have an autoimmune condition doesn't mean you can't also have a strong immune system, it just means that it attacks certain organs.

As I said, I'm absolutely not saying people shouldn't get it - that is up to them. I am simply saying why I am not getting it right now.

People who choose to have the vaccine are within their rights, the same should be afforded to those who choose not to have it also, whatever the reason may be.
 
ukjohn said:
I must agree that it should be a free choice, but I still think yours is a selfish attitude leaving it to others to prove it will work to help you. I wonder how you would feel if (God forbid ) you were admitted to hospital with the virus and the medical staff made the decision that it was not worth treating you because you do not trust them to administer vaccine until it's proved safe by everyone else, after all your only young at 40 and have a strong immune system, let's leave him in a side ward and test his theory for others.
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I'm not wanting to get into an argument here, so I will keep it balanced.

How is it in any way selfish that I choose not to have a vaccine based on what little I know of it? I have made an educated choice, based on what I know of the pharma industry - as I stated above, I work in the pharma industry and therefore I am aware of how almost impossible it is to have developed this so quickly without some corner cutting.

People who choose to get the vaccine, good luck to them. The same sentiments should be given to those who choose not to vaccinate also, they shouldn't be ostracised.
 
trophywench said:
As long as you don't want to mix with others and remain isolated (cos let's face it, who's going to want to mix with you in the foreseeable future?) it might be OK.
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Why? I have no symptoms and other than my diabetes and thyroid concerns I have been healthy throughout. I do not judge.

I know it's not like for like, but we don't do this with people who refuse the flu vaccine do we? Flu can kill also remember.
 
CivicFreak said:
Why? I have no symptoms and other than my diabetes and thyroid concerns I have been healthy throughout. I do not judge.

I know it's not like for like, but we don't do this with people who refuse the flu vaccine do we? Flu can kill also remember.
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Who's judging? We're all sharing our own viewpoints. I consider myself to be very healthy but this is a highly contagious virus with an ever increasing death rate and this appears to be the only way out unless we intend to be hermits. If we want to live in a society sometimes we have to take one for the team! I will..with trepidation..
 
Last time my husband and I appeared on public in a (large) room with literally dozens of other people was 7th March last year, after which we were locked down and daughter been doing the shopping ever since. Until 31st July, we could have a window or all of them open, and could only go outside the front door to clap on Thursday evenings, not allowed to take exercise outside, weren't allowed in the back garden even. Blah blah blah. Then at the beginning of December Pete lost his sense of taste, went to the drive-in and tested positive so he then took me there and I was too. He only has 50% lung capacity of a good day.

It is in the air we breathe, end of. Each and every one of us can get it.

How the hell can you predict you wouldn't have Long Covid even if you do recover apparently fairly easily from Covid initially?
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
Thought it might be interesting to see who has been offered their first Covid vaccine injection, and whether there is much difference over the country.

No need to be overly specific if you’d prefer to keep your exact location secret, but an idea of region might be interesting.

@Becka and @Docb I think you’ve has yours. Any others?
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ive had my vaccine 2 weeks ago
 
Come on everybody, cool it down.

At the heart of this debate there is a dilemma. The notion that there may be downsides to vaccination have validity. The notion that there are downsides to not being vaccinated also have validity. It's a matter of argument, opinion, prejudice and a lot of other things which determine where any individual arrives at when considering their own approach to the issue.

The one thing you can be sure of in this sort of debate is that it is easier to create discourse than consensus.

Personally I wish that people would talk about balance of risk in this sort of matter rather than treating every thing as if it can only be good or bad. My own view is that the balance of risk is in favour of vaccination even if the validation of the vaccine has been rushed. The balance of risk is against controlling the virus by trying to prevent transmission by legislation. The 100,000 dead, unknown numbers with prolonged effects and the rate at which it is being transmitted lead me to that view.

That's my assessment and I'll behave accordingly. I've had the first vaccination but will continue to take care with social contact in all its forms. Yes, I'm hedging my bets and anyway in the event I get asymptomatic covid because the big benefit of vaccination may be simply to reduce the symptoms, I don't want to pass it on to anybody who has yet to be vaccinated or has decided that vaccination is not right for them.
 
CivicFreak said:
I'm not wanting to get into an argument here, so I will keep it balanced.

How is it in any way selfish that I choose not to have a vaccine based on what little I know of it? I have made an educated choice, based on what I know of the pharma industry - as I stated above, I work in the pharma industry and therefore I am aware of how almost impossible it is to have developed this so quickly without some corner cutting.

People who choose to get the vaccine, good luck to them. The same sentiments should be given to those who choose not to vaccinate also, they shouldn't be ostracised.
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Oh I agree 100% it's your choice as to whether you have the vaccination or not.
Unfortunately the NHS staff who have to deal with people who have caught the virus and become seriously ill have no choice and it is those people that the vaccinated are protecting. 🙂
 
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