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What did you eat yesterday?

Nayshiftin

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I know you said you didn't like meat so what sort of mince was it? and how did you cook it. 1 kiwi is only 5g carb so that shouldn't have been a problem.
It was steak mince but then there was onion carrot mushroom spinach and yes hubby said it could have been stock cube. It was more like a soup than mince . I am not vegetarian but I don’t like meat but I had that as hubby had chilli and I don’t fancy cauliflower rice at the min . So he had chillies in after and kidney beans . So not quite making two different meals . It’s getting that way . Usually I’d have the rice and the veggie sauce then add the mince but I am trying more meat. As hungry all the time. It is as always though my mouth tastes of salt and I’m thirsty again . Can you give me a menu to eat. We have lamb for tomorrow it’s one piece as hubby usually has most of that I like mint sauce with my usual roast but can’t have that no more. Oh and I’d normally have mint sauce with lamb and my hubby has the norm lamb with mint sauce . Sugar in sauces was the first massive issue I address. That and everything has salad cream had to go. So even though I’m not a sweet eater that was one issue. So my eating changes . I have to have more meat but not in non meat form as Quorn is the same as meat to me. If we have sweet sour chicken I’d have had sauce n rice hubby takes my meat. Does that help you get . If we had burger in chips he’d have the extra burger I’d eat the roll n onion and tomato ketchup with chips . He’s my meat eater. I like cornbeef and I’ll eat chipplattes but I’d rather have a vegetable dish like Mac n cheese
 

Leadinglights

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It was steak mince but then there was onion carrot mushroom spinach and yes hubby said it could have been stock cube. It was more like a soup than mince . I am not vegetarian but I don’t like meat but I had that as hubby had chilli and I don’t fancy cauliflower rice at the min . So he had chillies in after and kidney beans . So not quite making two different meals . It’s getting that way . Usually I’d have the rice and the veggie sauce then add the mince but I am trying more meat. As hungry all the time. It is as always though my mouth tastes of salt and I’m thirsty again . Can you give me a menu to eat. We have lamb for tomorrow it’s one piece as hubby usually has most of that I like mint sauce with my usual roast but can’t have that no more. Oh and I’d normally have mint sauce with lamb and my hubby has the norm lamb with mint sauce . Sugar in sauces was the first massive issue I address. That and everything has salad cream had to go. So even though I’m not a sweet eater that was one issue. So my eating changes . I have to have more meat but not in non meat form as Quorn is the same as meat to me. If we have sweet sour chicken I’d have had sauce n rice hubby takes my meat. Does that help you get . If we had burger in chips he’d have the extra burger I’d eat the roll n onion and tomato ketchup with chips . He’s my meat eater. I like cornbeef and I’ll eat chipplattes but I’d rather have a vegetable dish like Mac n cheese
It was just a thought you had soya or quorn mince but even that is actually not particularly high on carbs. I agree alternative 'meats' are all wrong for people who don't like meat as it tries to make it the texture of meat which is what people often don't like.
I think you need to concentrate on the big picture rather than the minutia of a teaspoon of mint sauce at less than 2g carb or a dollop of mayonnaise at 1g carb for a spoonful. Things like sweet and sour by their very name are high carb unless you make your own and obviously the rice is high carb.
You could swap your normal pasta for edamame bean or black bean pasta which is only 15g carb /100g dry weight and make the cheese sauce with philadelphia and grated strong cheese.
I am struggling to see what was particularly high carb in your lunch, I doubt it was the stock cube less than 1g carb.
You say you are not vegetarian but it would be worth looking at veggie recipes as they will be designed to make sure there is enough protein as by just leaving out the meat you may not be having enough protein.
You could make a corned beef hash with mashed celeriac or butternut squash instead of potato.
There are some nice adventurous salads in the recipes in the food forum, not just lettuce, tomato and cucumber.
 

Nayshiftin

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No I meant I did have so much I would have had at least a tablespoon of sauce and perhaps two of salad cream on chips etc . So I have to change my eating completely . I’m not trying to do that now. As I said it was to let you know what I liked. See Corn beef is not out on keto but out for cholesterol diets. I find one outdoes the other. I think as I say. N omlette maybe good tonight or souo. I adore soup.
 

Leadinglights

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No I meant I did have so much I would have had at least a tablespoon of sauce and perhaps two of salad cream on chips etc . So I have to change my eating completely . I’m not trying to do that now. As I said it was to let you know what I liked. See Corn beef is not out on keto but out for cholesterol diets. I find one outdoes the other. I think as I say. N omlette maybe good tonight or souo. I adore soup.
It is the chips that are the problem not the salad cream
Try this link to the main site
 

NotWorriedAtAll

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Yesterday:
Breakfast - 2 slices of home made keto white bread with 2 fried eggs and a cup of decaf coffee and a big drink of sparkling water.
Lunch - cold sliced duck with a spring onion and a slice of keto bread and some celery - coffee and water to drink
Evening meal - slice of buttered toast made with keto bread water and coffee to drink.

Total carbs all day around - 15g

I did 30 minutes aerobic exercise as I am trying to get back into the habit.
 

Nayshiftin

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It is the chips that are the problem not the salad cream
Try this link to the main site
Yes I know that but I’ve already said I substitute with celeriac for chips and cauliflower for rice and leek or courgette for pasta . I use bits from the recipes as o don’t eat some of the foods like avocado maverick etc . I enjoy what I like and we have the aubergine Parmesan a lot . I adapt most of them use something like porridge with water no almond milk it is working okay. . What I said re the sauces yes is they add up because it’s the quantity as well as the type of thing you eat. Salad cream is like ketchup it’s riddled with sugar . Yes sugar had little carbs the carbs in potatoes convert more . But no one gets it it makes no difference. Anyway I am doing my own thing. I have looked and tried those plans but they still don’t change the swings of blood sugars. It’s getting better at times but it’s still not settling down. This morning was 7.4 so it’s better than 10 or more to start. I shall look over the month.
 
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Leadinglights

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No I meant I did have so much I would have had at least a tablespoon of sauce and perhaps two of salad cream on chips etc . So I have to change my eating completely . I’m not trying to do that now. As I said it was to let you know what I liked. See Corn beef is not out on keto but out for cholesterol diets. I find one outdoes the other. I think as I say. N omlette maybe good tonight or souo. I adore soup.
If you like soups you might like this book.
I found mine in a charity shop, loads of nice recipes, some more stews than soups
 

Leadinglights

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B: scrambled egg with smoked salmon on toast
L: homemade soup, ham. pate, 2 ryvita, pickles gerkin, tomato, half apple
D: sausage and veg casserole, salad half slice bread, half a Kvarg desert with seeds.
 

Pookie

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It can be helpful sometimes to know what sort of things people are eating, as it might give some ideas for a more varied diet. So, I'll start off with what I ate yesterday:

Breakfast - 1 slice buttered Burgen toast (my breakfast every day, I don't like to run with too much in my stomach)

Lunch - two soft-boiled eggs, two slices of buttered Burgen toast soldiers :) Activia yoghurt

Evening meal - home-made spaghetti bolognese and a bounty bar.

I also nibbled on chilli-dusted peanuts through the evening.
Was that a real Bounty bar? A delicious coconutty bar covered in chocolate? I'm new to all this and thought I would never eat a bar of chocolate ever again. Is this because you're Type 1 and can neutralise it with insulin? I'm Type 2, what could I neutralise it with???
 

Pookie

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B: scrambled egg with smoked salmon on toast
L: homemade soup, ham. pate, 2 ryvita, pickles gerkin, tomato, half apple
D: sausage and veg casserole, salad half slice bread, half a Kvarg desert with seeds.
Would you have had that breakfast on multigrain sourdough? Does it make any difference if its toasted or not? Was it only half an apple because you can't do fruit? What sort of Kvarg desert and why only half? I'm new to all this and you've already helped me with advice! I'm now testing regularly with a Libre and shocked to find that even a tiny bit of unsweetened cooking apple puree can cause a huge spike. This morning I had a few berries in porridge made with almond milk and it shot up from 6.7 to 14.3 the highest I've ever recorded! Can I just not eat fruit at all? Is it better to eat breakfast as early as possible or later? Perhaps I should have same breakfast as you, but I was scared of having bread/toast. Will I ever eat marmalade again? Sorry, so many questions! If you are able to answer ANY of them I'd be so grateful.....
 

Pattidevans

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Was that a real Bounty bar? A delicious coconutty bar covered in chocolate? I'm new to all this and thought I would never eat a bar of chocolate ever again. Is this because you're Type 1 and can neutralise it with insulin? I'm Type 2, what could I neutralise it with???
Exercise. But really moderation is the clue. Don't eat a whole one at a time.

Yesterday:
Brunch: 1 rasher thick sliced bacon, 2 slices toast (Morrisons Wheat, spelt and rye) 2 poached eggs.
Dinner: Wild Venison stew with red wine, juniper berries and redcurrant jelly, celeriac mash, sprouts and leeks. Wild venison has hardly any fat on it. The combination of the stew with the celeriac mash was a marriage made in heaven!
 

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Nayshiftin

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Leadinglights

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Would you have had that breakfast on multigrain sourdough? Does it make any difference if its toasted or not? Was it only half an apple because you can't do fruit? What sort of Kvarg desert and why only half? I'm new to all this and you've already helped me with advice! I'm now testing regularly with a Libre and shocked to find that even a tiny bit of unsweetened cooking apple puree can cause a huge spike. This morning I had a few berries in porridge made with almond milk and it shot up from 6.7 to 14.3 the highest I've ever recorded! Can I just not eat fruit at all? Is it better to eat breakfast as early as possible or later? Perhaps I should have same breakfast as you, but I was scared of having bread/toast. Will I ever eat marmalade again? Sorry, so many questions! If you are able to answer ANY of them I'd be so grateful.....
We have homemade bread cut so the slice is about 30g so less than 15g carb, there is not much difference between breads unless they are those 'low carb' ones. I don't know if toasting makes a difference as I go from the weight of the slice pre toasting.
I have half an apple as a whole apple would make my lunch more carbs than I try to keep to at less than 20g.
The Kvarg deserts are quark based so high protein, low fat and low carb but the pot is 150g which I find is too much to eat in one go.
As far as your porridge is concerned It is the porridge not the blueberries which is more likely to be the problem. Try the berries with full fat Greek yogurt and some seeds or nuts.
A small bit of the toast I put a scraping of homemade marmalade a teaspoonful maybe, which is maybe 3g carb.
The book Carbs and Cals was my bible for making portion and food choice decisions so would highly recommend it or any of the apps people use. I must admit I like the book.
 

Pookie

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Thank you for replying to me. I must admit I was hoping to know what to eat 'by eye' rather than by weighing because I don't want to draw attention to myself in the kitchen. I will try half a piece of sourdough with a smear of marmalade. I had half a slice of toast with scrambled egg and that went well, so I'm hoping maybe toast is ok. I will try the yoghurt with seeds etc. I thought I was being good with the porridge and it was diabetic friendly. I just can't guess it though!
So grateful for your response...
 

Pookie

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Exercise. But really moderation is the clue. Don't eat a whole one at a time.

Yesterday:
Brunch: 1 rasher thick sliced bacon, 2 slices toast (Morrisons Wheat, spelt and rye) 2 poached eggs.
Dinner: Wild Venison stew with red wine, juniper berries and redcurrant jelly, celeriac mash, sprouts and leeks. Wild venison has hardly any fat on it. The combination of the stew with the celeriac mash was a marriage made in heaven!
Is celeriac mash any less carby than potato mash? Sounds delicious...
 

Leadinglights

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Thank you for replying to me. I must admit I was hoping to know what to eat 'by eye' rather than by weighing because I don't want to draw attention to myself in the kitchen. I will try half a piece of sourdough with a smear of marmalade. I had half a slice of toast with scrambled egg and that went well, so I'm hoping maybe toast is ok. I will try the yoghurt with seeds etc. I thought I was being good with the porridge and it was diabetic friendly. I just can't guess it though!
So grateful for your response...
If you get some measuring spoons or small tubs which you can use to initially weigh things and keep a notebook with your weighings and volumes and then you can then just use the spoon or tub when making things. After a while you will be able to eye ball most things. Carbs and Cals has pictures to give you a hint.
My scales live on the work top.
 

Nayshiftin

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Is celeriac mash any less carby than potato mash? Sounds delicious...
I love it , it’s easier somehow to digest for me. However it does have a taste you either like or dislike. Quoting carbs n cal book .”per 100g Celeriac has2 g of carbs and 18 cals where potatoes vary with butter or skimmed milk unsure alone but 120g has 122 and 19 carbs with butter . Also 19 carbs with semi skimmed milk and 84 cals so yes a lot lower I would think from that . There is belief here that low carb is best. So I am not suggesting otherwise but all I will say is that Dieticians snd on website it varies as each individual does too. So like me I think it’s trial and error to get balanced and on track. However I know nowt and am no expert best of luck
 

Leadinglights

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I love it , it’s easier somehow to digest for me. However it does have a taste you either like or dislike. Quoting carbs n cal book .”per 100g Celeriac has2 g of carbs and 18 cals where potatoes vary with butter or skimmed milk unsure alone but 120g has 122 and 19 carbs with butter . Also 19 carbs with semi skimmed milk and 84 cals so yes a lot lower I would think from that . There is belief here that low carb is best. So I am not suggesting otherwise but all I will say is that Dieticians snd on website it varies as each individual does too. So like me I think it’s trial and error to get balanced and on track. However I know nowt and am no expert best of luck
Something mashed with butter will be lower in carbs than the same amount mashed with skimmed milk as butter has no carbs but the milk does.
I tried to grow some celeriac but useless, won't bother again I'll just buy some.
 

Pattidevans

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From my Collins gem book boiled Celeriac has1.9g carb per 100g. Whereas mashed potatoes have 15.5g per 100g. Fatsecret.com disagrees and quotes a level for celeriac as 9.2g per 100g. Frankly I think the carbs are negligble and I don't count them. I puree the Celeriac in the food processor with some butter until smooth, then mix it with a few large spoonfuls of mashed potato to give it some "body". I do the same with Cauliflower mash. Then again, I'm T1 so don't have to be quite so careful with carbs. I love the taste of Celeriac.

Sunday:
Brunch: Sausage sandwich. 3 outdoor bred pork chipolatas (total 1.5g carb) on 2 slices wheat, spelt and rye bread, teaspoon burger relish..
Dinner: Chicken casserole with jerusalem artichokes, lemon, red onion and fennel. Absolutely yummy. Adapted from a Nigel Slater recipe for a sausage casserole with the same ingredients. Supposed to add lots of chopped parsley...turned out what I thought was chopped parsley in a bag in the freezer was Tarragon, but actually the tarragon worked really well. Had it with runner beans.

Today:
Brunch: Pastrami, coleslaw and tomato sandwich on same bread as yesterday.
Dinner tonight will be the Venison Casserole from Saturday with the celeriac mash and the remaining runner beans.
 

Nayshiftin

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Something mashed with butter will be lower in carbs than the same amount mashed with skimmed milk as butter has no carbs but the milk does.
I tried to grow some celeriac but useless, won't bother again I'll just buy some.
I quoted from last years book . Carbs n cals so you argue with them not I
 
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