What did you eat yesterday?

[Felinia]

No time for breakfast today had a scotch egg and costa latte 11:30 , burger no bread with 2 eggs 3:30pm then for dinner 1 large butchers pork chop, green cabbage , runner beans, string beans , roasted celeriac chunks and gravy , desert 3 strawberry's with a few raspberry's ,blackberry's with a desert spoon of double cream .
Not sure on the carb count as I have not worked out how to calculate them yet ?

Just for you, I ran your food through my app, to give you a rough idea. I assumed your latte was a medium semi skimmed, and you also had a further 200ml semi skimmed for the rest of your drinks. The burger I assumes 4oz grilled.
You will be please to know the calories came out at 1350, well under what a woman needs to maintain, let alone a man. Your carb total was 61.8gm, of which sugars were 39gm, so well under the less then 130gm recommended by Diabetes UK. It took me around 5 minutes, so there are apps out there, and websites, which make record keeping much easier - I wouldn't be without mine.

 

[Kaylz]

Kaylz I just cannot imagine having to weigh all my eats, no patience

I have to, essential to know how much insulin I need to take

@Felinia apps aren't always spot on and I've noticed they can be quite out compared to the back of a packet of exactly the same brand and product, I have to say you also use a lot of milk in your drinks, I have 4 mugs and 2 cups of coffee a day and wouldn't even hit 20ml milk

Anyways yesterday
B - same as previous day, breakfast never changes lol
mid-morning - coffee
D - smoked ham sandwich and salted caramel nature valley protein bar, pint of water
mid-afternoon - 2 cups coffee
2 or 3 pints of water lol
T - 3 egg mushroom and corned beef omelette, steamed green beans, boiled potatoes and some homemade Dijon mustard dressing, 25g bar moser roth 85% chocolate, pint of water
2 mugs of coffee between that and bed
xx

 

[Eddy Edson]

I will also have to look into snow peas

I think "mangetout" in the UK (I'm in Oz). Yummy!

 

[silentsquirrel]

I think "mangetout" in the UK (I'm in Oz). Yummy!

Flat ones are mangetout, if the peas are normal size but you still eat pod as well they are sugar peas.

 

[Kaylz]

Aldi Gluten Free Nut Bar

I don't suppose you could be a total star and break down the nutrition information for those bars for me please? I don't get near Aldi often nor do I have time to dither when I do so knowing would be handy in case I can fit them in somewhere throughout the day, if you don't mind of course xx

 

[Eddy Edson]

Flat ones are mangetout, if the peas are normal size but you still eat pod as well they are sugar peas.

Both are yummy 🙂 And choc full of nutritional goodness, apparently! https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2516/2

 

[Kaylz]

I don't have any in the larder at present but this is what I have on my spreadsheet (per bar):-

Carbs 5.9g
KCals 214
Sat Fat 3.2g
Protein 6.9g
Fibre 8.5g

Morrisons do a near identical bar but the carbs are 7.5g per bar and there's less fibre.

Martin

thanks hun I appreciate that, can you remember how much they are? really enjoy the nature valley bars but they are pricey even on a deal xx

 

[Felinia]

I have to, essential to know how much insulin I need to take

@Felinia apps aren't always spot on and I've noticed they can be quite out compared to the back of a packet of exactly the same brand and product, I have to say you also use a lot of milk in your drinks, I have 4 mugs and 2 cups of coffee a day and wouldn't even hit 20ml milk

Anyways yesterday
B - same as previous day, breakfast never changes lol
mid-morning - coffee
D - smoked ham sandwich and salted caramel nature valley protein bar, pint of water
mid-afternoon - 2 cups coffee
2 or 3 pints of water lol
T - 3 egg mushroom and corned beef omelette, steamed green beans, boiled potatoes and some homemade Dijon mustard dressing, 25g bar moser roth 85% chocolate, pint of water
2 mugs of coffee between that and bed
xx

Yes, I've noticed differences between apps, but it does give rough guides. The back of packets are also just averages, so I've seen TV programmes where they've taken packets, done their own testing and got different answers than the packet. So I suppose at the end of the day, they are all approximations. I do weigh and measure everything, so I input the actual gram weight, to get as good a measurement as I can, accepting that they are not absolutes. I think you might have misunderstood my milk measurement - it was not per mug or cup, but for the whole day!! I actually have 170ml per day, which for my 7 drinks works out at about 25ml per mug. If your 20ml was for the whole day over 6 drinks, I wouldn't bother lol!!!!

B: Poached egg on toast, Benecol dairy free drink
L: Ham and cottage cheese salad
S: Nuts!
D: Baked fish, carrots, cauliflower, runner beans
4 pints water and will be 6 mugs de-caf tea

I'm 8 weeks in now and I would say not as regimented as I was at the beginning - not so scared of everything I eat. I just make sure I am less then 1200 calories per day, and between 75gm - 90 gm of carbs per day, never over, with at least 5 or more veggies. That is well within the Diabetes UK recommendation. The monitoring has shown potatoes are my enemy, but surprisingly poached egg on wholemeal toast doesn't give me a spike. When I went lower than 75gm carbs per day I felt quite unwell (and so hungry I was tempted to snack badly), so now I always have either 30gm jumbo porridge/oatbran, or a slice of toast each day at breakfast. I've had rice and pasta just once each since diagnosis. I have my 1st 3 month check in 4 weeks so will see how I have been doing. If the figures don't show a positive trend, I will take advice and adjust accordingly. What I have learned from this Forum is that everyone is different, and the variety of diets or foods that affect people, is amazing. Each to his or her own. I'm off now to have my snack of 15gm chopped nuts - something I would never have eaten before!

 

[Kaylz]

@Felinia I've seen how out the apps can be but I guess you can take the risk more than me

No that's what I thought you meant, 25ml is a lot of milk for 1 cuppy
xx

 

[Kaylz]

£1.89 for a 4-pack.

£1 cheaper than nature valley, fab, thanks! xx

 

[Felinia]

The reason you don't get a spike from poached egg on wholemeal toast will be due to wholemeal bread being low GI. Diabetes UK recommends you limit it to 3 or 4 slices per day, though.

Martin

Thanks - good to know why. I never have more than 1 or 2 medium slices from a small 400gm loaf, and was told by my appointed dietician to limit to 6 slices a week, which is why it's bread free some days! How the "advice" varies from source to source!

 

[Felinia]

@Felinia I've seen how out the apps can be but I guess you can take the risk more than me

No that's what I thought you meant, 25ml is a lot of milk for 1 cuppy
xx

Yes - I see you're Type 1 and I know from a friend just how careful you have to be. He is a competitive table tennis player (he actually played for England as a junior) and measured before every game and injects. If the tournament schedule goes out it really mucks him up. I expect Sir Steve Redgrave had to do the same when training and competing. I also worked with a guy who kept a supply of snacks (legally) and a bottle of whisky (illegally) in his desk. We knew if he had a hypo to get some juice or a snack into him. I'm amazed you can spread 20ml over 6 mugs!!! I think I choose to have my milk and count the carbs. Biccies and cakes I gave up no trouble.

 

[silentsquirrel]

Yes - I see you're Type 1 and I know from a friend just how careful you have to be. He is a competitive table tennis player (he actually played for England as a junior) and measured before every game and injects. If the tournament schedule goes out it really mucks him up. I expect Sir Steve Redgrave had to do the same when training and competing. I also worked with a guy who kept a supply of snacks (legally) and a bottle of whisky (illegally) in his desk. We knew if he had a hypo to get some juice or a snack into him. I'm amazed you can spread 20ml over 6 mugs!!! I think I choose to have my milk and count the carbs. Biccies and cakes I gave up no trouble.

Proper whole milk is one of my non-negotiables, and I hope I can keep it that way. HbA1c 38 - 41 over the past few years (with insulin), so not a problem at the moment. I would have at least 25ml (<2 tblsp) in a large mug of coffee. I find the alternative milks very expensive and some of them disgusting in a hot drink!
YMMV!!

 

[Billy Bob]

Just for you, I ran your food through my app, to give you a rough idea. I assumed your latte was a medium semi skimmed, and you also had a further 200ml semi skimmed for the rest of your drinks. The burger I assumes 4oz grilled.
You will be please to know the calories came out at 1350, well under what a woman needs to maintain, let alone a man. Your carb total was 61.8gm, of which sugars were 39gm, so well under the less then 130gm recommended by Diabetes UK. It took me around 5 minutes, so there are apps out there, and websites, which make record keeping much easier - I wouldn't be without mine.

Thank you Felinia
Can I ask what the app is you may have already told me previously ?
I think I may have to up my protein intake as I've notice my muscle shrinkage ?
B: no time again not even a cuppa as I over slept thanks to the police deciding to recover a car right outside my house at 01:00am .
L: 12:30pm 3 egg omelette with 2 rashers of back bacon and a jumbo cumberland sausage mug of tea with full fat milk
14:00 medium costa latte
D: salad usual ingredients dressed with mayo and topped off with prawns and a little grated mature cheddar . Dessert 3 large strawberry's , a small plum, few raspberry's , small golden kiwi topped off with a dessert spoon of double cream . Medium costa latte

 

[Greymouser]

I wonder if I would still lose weight with Hovis lower carb?

There is only one way to find out Ditto eh? 😉
I have Hovis Nimble, which is even lower carb at only 8.1 a slice. A small slice but no smaller than the low carb one. I am very careful about bread, a little paranoid perhaps, as I used to eat an awful lot of it pre diagnosis, so prefer not to risk it so much. Bread is one thing I do miss though. I used to think nothing of having over a half large loaf in a day. 😱 Now I am thinking of chip butties, which is not good at any time, except treat day, deffo not at this time of the day though! 🙄

Today for me, even though little differs: 🙄

Breakfast: Three slices of nimble with mushroom pate and an egg; 50g of dry roasted nuts; packet of crisps and an apple. ( tested two hours late and 6.1 🙂)
Missed lunch and at 2pm, tested and was at 4.6, ( I felt a little odd, ) so had 250g of Vegan yoghurt an apple and a tiny pack of crisps. ( I Again tested two hours later and 6.6, which means the yoghurt will not be got again... )
Tea: Smoked mackerel cooked with Harissa paste on top, which is yummy and the usual boring huge chunk of Broccoli. Tested to see if I could manage a little chocolate, found I could so had 35g of Vegan chocolate, which hardly spiked me at all. ( 6.1 ) It seems that Vegan yoghurt is something probably best avoided.

I had 3+ litres of water and one black strong coffee and snacked on a couple of flavoured ices. I think it is time I started testing less again as my mind settles down a bit perhaps, I guess I know what affects me badly by now and I am lucky enough to not need Insulin. I also really need to be careful about keeping large bags of nuts in the house, it is too tempting, though I was a good boy today with regards to that, but the tiny 50g bags are cheap from home bargains, and help me stop that temptation, because I could easily eat a half pound+ of peanuts in a sitting.

YMMV

 

[Eddy Edson]

I Again tested two hours later and 6.6, which means the yoghurt will not be got again...

Really??!? 6.6 is a completely "normal" post-eating level. My favourite CGM benchmark https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19389816 says 6.7 is the average non-diabetic 2-hr post-dinner level:



(divide the US mg/dl by 18 to get mmol/L).

I sure wouldn't ditch the yoghurt for BG reasons if that's all it's doing to you.

But YMMV 🙂

 

[Kaylz]

Yesterday
B - same as always
Later than usual - coffee, was absolutely frozen by the time I got home so was needed immediately lol
D - same as previous day
mid-afternoon - same as previous day
T - chicken breast with mayo, roasted sprouts and a large flat mushroom, boiled potatoes and a square Lindt 90%, pint of water
2 cups of coffee between then and bed
xx

 

[Greymouser]

I sure wouldn't ditch the yoghurt for BG reasons if that's all it's doing to you.

Yes, I know, I suppose. It is almost like I am back where I was soon after diagnosis, worrying far too much, for little reason. 😳 Part of it yesterday was the fact that my BG went up from 4.6 to 6.6, for what I perceived as a snack, but in fact that " snack " was about 40g of carbs! I need to get a grip on myself, but I am far too self critical I am afraid, not helped by being in quite a bad place mentally. Thank you for that little reality check, it was useful; needed. 🙂 I need to stop checking quite so much and relax.

Of course if I am back in that place again, I will have to give myself a good talking to, because I cannot afford to lose another four and a half stone, as that would leave me at about seven and a half stone, which would be badly underweight!

This is why this forum and particularly this thread is so useful, because it gives lots of little reality checks. I need not be afraid of getting to the dizzy heights of a low double figure BG reading. < Gives self slap! > 😉

 

[SueEK]

Yes, I know, I suppose. It is almost like I am back where I was soon after diagnosis, worrying far too much, for little reason. 😳 Part of it yesterday was the fact that my BG went up from 4.6 to 6.6, for what I perceived as a snack, but in fact that " snack " was about 40g of carbs! I need to get a grip on myself, but I am far too self critical I am afraid, not helped by being in quite a bad place mentally. Thank you for that little reality check, it was useful; needed. 🙂 I need to stop checking quite so much and relax.

Of course if I am back in that place again, I will have to give myself a good talking to, because I cannot afford to lose another four and a half stone, as that would leave me at about seven and a half stone, which would be badly underweight!

This is why this forum and particularly this thread is so useful, because it gives lots of little reality checks. I need not be afraid of getting to the dizzy heights of a low double figure BG reading. < Gives self slap! > 😉

I get what you are saying, I think we are all really strict with ourselves when first diagnosed and then forget to let up a bit when our levels even out. I saw a D Dietician who said I needed to up my food intake as was losing too much weight. I almost feel that I needed ‘permission’ to eat more and up my carbs. If you went from 4.6 to 6.6 then to me that is brilliant, I have never been in the 4s at all. As Eddy says your levels are extremely good, be kinder to yourself xxx

 

[Eddy Edson]

Yes, I know, I suppose. It is almost like I am back where I was soon after diagnosis, worrying far too much, for little reason. 😳 Part of it yesterday was the fact that my BG went up from 4.6 to 6.6, for what I perceived as a snack, but in fact that " snack " was about 40g of carbs! I need to get a grip on myself, but I am far too self critical I am afraid, not helped by being in quite a bad place mentally. Thank you for that little reality check, it was useful; needed. 🙂 I need to stop checking quite so much and relax.

Of course if I am back in that place again, I will have to give myself a good talking to, because I cannot afford to lose another four and a half stone, as that would leave me at about seven and a half stone, which would be badly underweight!

This is why this forum and particularly this thread is so useful, because it gives lots of little reality checks. I need not be afraid of getting to the dizzy heights of a low double figure BG reading. < Gives self slap! > 😉

If you're 4.6 pre-prandial, and only go to 6.6 after a 40g carb snack, and you've lost 4.5 stone, in my unqualified opinion I would say you have more than likely resolved your diabetes and can check out of the D-hotel any time at your convenience, so long as you don't put a bunch of weight back on.

Check every now and then to make sure you're not spinning out of orbit, but if I was you I wouldn't really worry about how many carbs you're eating now.