nonethewiser
Well-Known Member
- Relationship to Diabetes
- Type 1
Can honestly say I've never ever read a diabetes cookbook.
Dr David Unwin seems to have faced that challenge and risen to it very graciously.And then imagine spending a career as a health care professional advising people to do something that was actually detrimental to their health and then having to contemplate reversing that advice.
There’s a low carb meal plan already offered (along with Mediterranean, and various other options)
Low-carb diet and meal plan
Eating a low-carb diet means cutting down on the amount of carbohydrates (carbs) you eat to less than 130g a day. But low-carb eating shouldn’t be no-carb eating. Some carbohydrate foods contain essential vitamins, minerals and fibre, which form an important part of a healthy diet.www.diabetes.org.uk
So low carb options are certainly on offer from DUK 🙂
Have you ever read any books ?Can honestly say I've never ever read a diabetes cookbook.
Who is Prof Roy Taylor ?
So is it worth reading any of his books are should I, for now , stick to the basic low carb stuff , backed up by diabetes uk links , like you have provided in this thread ?He is one of the Professors (along with Prof Mike Lean) behind the research projects (DIRECT) that have led to what is sometimes called the Newcastle Diet.
So is it worth reading any of his books are should I, for now , stick to the basic low carb stuff , backed up by diabetes uk links , like you have provided in this thread ?
Im getting old lol when you look at it like that. Your right but its a good change although has taken a long time to change me.I should think so Taffy - reducing carbohydrate consumption generally hadn't been conceived - let alone born and adopted, back then. It is nearly 25 years ago!
They are two quite different strategies. One is a short-term very low calorie diet designed to remove visceral fat around the organs, which ‘rebooted’ pancreatic function in about half of the trial participants.
The other is about finding a menu for long-term successful glucose management. You’d need to do this after DIRECT too of course - as regaining the weight by eating the same way as before can lead to diabetes re-emerging.
Direct/Newcastle does seem to have more chance of success the sooner after diagnosis it is implemented, but if you are already having success with low carb it may be tempting to stick with that?
They are two quite different strategies. One is a short-term very low calorie diet designed to remove visceral fat around the organs, which ‘rebooted’ pancreatic function in about half of the trial participants.
The other is about finding a menu for long-term successful glucose management. You’d need to do this after DIRECT too of course - as regaining the weight by eating the same way as before can lead to diabetes re-emerging.
Direct/Newcastle does seem to have more chance of success the sooner after diagnosis it is implemented, but if you are already having success with low carb it may be tempting to stick with that?
I thought the Atkins diet was about reducing carbs.I should think so Taffy - reducing carbohydrate consumption generally hadn't been conceived - let alone born and adopted, back then. It is nearly 25 years ago!
I know I speak for plenty of newly diagnosed people who sometimes think .....
PLEASE just group all this together and give us a sensible eating plan !
Well I certainly have visceral fat
That's the Newcastle diet ?
If you want to read more you can follow @Kreator ‘s experience of the 800cal / Newcastle diet here
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NHS Low Calorie Diet - Type 2 Remission Programme - Oviva (aka Newcastle)
Hi All, 25/08/2021 - Link: https://www.england.nhs.uk/diabetes/treatment-care/low-calorie-diets/ - Includes links at the bottom to DiRECT Year 1, DiRECT Year 2 & DROPLET Trials ;) 25/08/2021 - Link: https://oviva.com/uk/en/programme/diabetes-remission/#join - This explains the programme...forum.diabetes.org.uk
Is that the same as the fast 800 Micheal Moseley approach
I am all over the shop
If you want to read more you can follow @Kreator ‘s experience of the 800cal / Newcastle diet here
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NHS Low Calorie Diet - Type 2 Remission Programme - Oviva (aka Newcastle)
Hi All, 25/08/2021 - Link: https://www.england.nhs.uk/diabetes/treatment-care/low-calorie-diets/ - Includes links at the bottom to DiRECT Year 1, DiRECT Year 2 & DROPLET Trials ;) 25/08/2021 - Link: https://oviva.com/uk/en/programme/diabetes-remission/#join - This explains the programme...forum.diabetes.org.uk
I saw the 5 year results - yep a little disappointing, but i'd still take the 8% still in Remission...According to this article it is not very succesfull:
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Weight loss can put type 2 diabetes into remission for at least 5 years, DiRECT study reveals
UPDATE, 26 FEBRUARY, 2024: This article has been updated following new findings into our landmark DiRECT study which have been published in the Lancet. Results from a three-year extension of our landmark DIRECT study reveal that for some it’s possible to stay in remission of type 2 diabetes for...www.diabetes.org.uk
After 5 years only 8% is still in remission (from a group that is extra motivated, because they are being monitored)
and that number is dropping fast.
What happened meanwhile to the other 92%?
Yep mosely uses real food, but he started his 800 journey through Roy Taylor himself...Similar approach I think. Not 100% sure of the differences in detail, but Newcastle/DIRECT uses shakes to ensure people have a nutritionally complete menu in only 800 calories. I think Mosely may use ‘real food’?
Have you ever read any books ?