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Type 2 diabetes and still eating egg, beans, and chips.
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Leadinglights
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Welcome to the forum
The eggs are fine, not so much the beans and chips.
There are plenty of much better foods you can eat, ham and eggs, omelettes with filling of mushrooms and cheese, meat, fish vegetables and salads.
Have a look at this link for some menu ideas and principals for following a low carbohydrate diet which many find successful. https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/
Hi @Djangoman and welcome to the forum.
Do you have a BG meter?
If so, then you can test your meals to see how well your body tolerates them.
This can be quite important to know because us with Type 2 diabetes can vary considerably in how much carbs we are OK with and also which types of carbs. For example, most are OK with a moderate portion of cooked carrots, where my BG rockets even after a small portion of raw carrot.
Here's a link to the Blog post which got me on my path to remission (in med free remission for nearly 4yrs now):
josekalsbeek.blogspot.com
Do you have a BG meter?
If so, then you can test your meals to see how well your body tolerates them.
This can be quite important to know because us with Type 2 diabetes can vary considerably in how much carbs we are OK with and also which types of carbs. For example, most are OK with a moderate portion of cooked carrots, where my BG rockets even after a small portion of raw carrot.
Here's a link to the Blog post which got me on my path to remission (in med free remission for nearly 4yrs now):
The Nutritional Thingy
There’s a few things you should know. 1. Practically all carbs turn to glucose once ingested , so not just straight sugars, but starches...
josekalsbeek.blogspot.com
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Beans are good for diabetics read the sample menus on here
Leadinglights
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But baked beans which I assume they were plus chips ???
Lucyr
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Baked beans can have a lot of sugar in the sauce as well as the carbs in the beans. Beans in general are a good food when they aren’t in a sugary sauce but they can have too many carbs for some people.
When reading any recipes or menus on this site be aware that they are not specific to your individual diabetes so they might not be suitable for everyone, since some T2s can handle more or less carbs than others, and many T1s and other types don’t limit carbs, though some may choose to
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Few full blown type 2s can manage baked beans. I can have a small amount of peas or beans, even peanuts, but I really restrict my intake of carbs to the extent of having normal blood glucose and almost normal HbA1c.
I don't restrict meat, fish, cheese, eggs but protein and fat seems so nourishing I sometimes only have one meal a day and don't feel hungry.
When checking my blood glucose after eating I found that a full portion of peas or beans seemed to be providing more carbs than the listed count - almost double. It is well worth getting a meter and checking how you respond to various meals or foods if things don't add up.
If you are in the early stages then you might find that you can still manage quite a wide variety of carby foods, but I checked carefully so as to make a rapid retreat from the high peaks to the low foothills by the easiest route. I bought a Tee 2+ meter from Spirit Healthcare, along with some test strips and once I got my after meal tests down to 8mmol/l or under it was pretty much plain sailing.
If you like baked things there are a lot of recipes for buns and biscuits etc. on sugarfreelondoner's website. I have even bought a mixer to make home baking an easy option
I don't restrict meat, fish, cheese, eggs but protein and fat seems so nourishing I sometimes only have one meal a day and don't feel hungry.
When checking my blood glucose after eating I found that a full portion of peas or beans seemed to be providing more carbs than the listed count - almost double. It is well worth getting a meter and checking how you respond to various meals or foods if things don't add up.
If you are in the early stages then you might find that you can still manage quite a wide variety of carby foods, but I checked carefully so as to make a rapid retreat from the high peaks to the low foothills by the easiest route. I bought a Tee 2+ meter from Spirit Healthcare, along with some test strips and once I got my after meal tests down to 8mmol/l or under it was pretty much plain sailing.
If you like baked things there are a lot of recipes for buns and biscuits etc. on sugarfreelondoner's website. I have even bought a mixer to make home baking an easy option
The potatoes were grown on my allotment, Desiree variety, my portions need moderating, am a stress eater, yesterday wasn't a good day for me. I'm seriously considering the low carb diet because I can't go on the way that I have been.
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You can't beat home grown potatoes, I used to plant 4 big beds of potatoes but so rarely eat them now 1 bed with a mixture of varieties is more than sufficient, I just have more beds for the green veg, French beans, runner beans, squashes, courgettes, beetroot, brassicas don't do too well but had some success this year with some broccoli, swiss chard, mangetout, peas and whatever else I can think of.
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Well this is where the differences come in. I have baked beams, oven chips and eggs. It’s how you cook them. I’ve never gone for low sugar beans only no added sugar in bread! I am in remission. Enough said! Read the menus on this website to see what you can eat!
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Send your potatoes to me! I will eat them! Yummy!
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”very few diabetics can cope with …”
no one can quote “ very few…”
its misleading to say that “very few” of 5 million people “ can’t cope! “
At best it’s misleading to suit their own narrative or downright ridiculous!
How many out of 5 million people do they know or any of us know?
no one can quote “ very few…”
its misleading to say that “very few” of 5 million people “ can’t cope! “
At best it’s misleading to suit their own narrative or downright ridiculous!
How many out of 5 million people do they know or any of us know?
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@Djangoman This is why you should test to see how your blood glucose levels react to meals - some foods are problematic in that some people find them akin to rocket fuel but others can manage modest amounts whilst others eat them every day and shrug - beans seem to be one of those, also porridge or other oat containing foods.
If you have the option to grow your own then I suggest cauliflower and swede/turnips as good low carb staples.
Swede cooked in a pressure cooker then mashed is good with dinner, but for breakfast, mixed with eggs, fried and eaten with bacon it is really good - or mix in eggs and cheese, put it in a dish, add more cheese on top and then into the oven to warm up and give the cheese a light golden tan.....
If you have the option to grow your own then I suggest cauliflower and swede/turnips as good low carb staples.
Swede cooked in a pressure cooker then mashed is good with dinner, but for breakfast, mixed with eggs, fried and eaten with bacon it is really good - or mix in eggs and cheese, put it in a dish, add more cheese on top and then into the oven to warm up and give the cheese a light golden tan.....
If you're in South Yorkshire, your welcome to them, I've got 4 30 litre tubs full of Maris Piper, King Edward, Desiree, and Charlotte!
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I’m on X and there’s a few people, as I do gardening, they’re self sufficient and live off of their land, small holders and small farmers If you really want rid of them I could ask them . It’s such a shame you’re not going to use them! Failing anything else the food bank would be grateful for them or several food banks. I feel Keto is such a waste as the fruit of the good earth is the best thing for us. Did you research potatoes and diabetes? The starch is different and it doesn’t cause spikes in BG as they’re slow release carbs. I do eat meat but I don’t want more animals to keep me going. I don’t like fat anyway or grease and never have! I was only diagnosed after lockdown. It takes 3 yearly tests to get remission therefore no one can argue with the way I did it as I wouldn’t have been told I was in remission any sooner. Look around the website and do the learning zone and they tell you the foods you can eat.
eggs, oven chips, I air fry but count them as syns and have beans of all kinds. ( I do SW and NHS Scotland paid for it, they’re so pleased they’ve given me another 24 weeks. ) So it’s recommended by NHS. I add them to my meals like bolognaise also. Constipation while on morphine, as I am, is not desirable. I wish you the best of luck in your journey whatever you do. I don’t think I will stay in the website but will get your message and if I can pass anyone on to you that lives where you are . I will let you know. I don’t eat any other potatoes other than Maris Pipers. I bought ones from m and s and I can tell they’re not lol
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That’s ok as well
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You can have low sugar beans I ate Heinz beans and I am great with them and in remission
Lucyr
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This isn’t your thread though, you just seem to have taken it over. The OP is asking to understand the food they’re eating so they might not know that beans can have a lot of carbs in and they aren’t in remission
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I think these differences in experience are why many members here find self monitoring with a meter around food so helpful @Djangoman
By checking immediately before eating and again 2hrs later, and looking for a ‘meal rise’ of no more than 2-3mmol/L at the 2 hour mark you can experiment with all sorts of different foods, portion sizes, sources of carbohydrates, time of day - even cooking styles can make a difference!
Personally I find new potatoes the easiest on my glucose levels. I‘m OK with potatoes generally as long as I time my insulin dose properly. The spuds that really hit my BGs hard seem to be jackets. Partly I think because the long and slow cooking dries them out so they become more ‘concentrated’ and I probably eat a bigger one than I realise?
Beans and pulses do seem to be another food that gives rise to very different glucose responses in different people on the forum. Very ‘safe’ for some members, and like rocket fuel for others! Possibly due to how different metabolisms, gut biomes, and genes are able to break down the resistant amylose starches in legumes?
The old diabetes forum adage remains so relevant: Your Diabetes May Vary
It seems clear that you want to make some changes to your menu @Djangoman - hope the forum can give you some ideas, techniques and suggestions of things to try.
You might also want to take a look at one of the various meal plans for ideas and inspiration?
www.diabetes.org.uk
By checking immediately before eating and again 2hrs later, and looking for a ‘meal rise’ of no more than 2-3mmol/L at the 2 hour mark you can experiment with all sorts of different foods, portion sizes, sources of carbohydrates, time of day - even cooking styles can make a difference!
Personally I find new potatoes the easiest on my glucose levels. I‘m OK with potatoes generally as long as I time my insulin dose properly. The spuds that really hit my BGs hard seem to be jackets. Partly I think because the long and slow cooking dries them out so they become more ‘concentrated’ and I probably eat a bigger one than I realise?
Beans and pulses do seem to be another food that gives rise to very different glucose responses in different people on the forum. Very ‘safe’ for some members, and like rocket fuel for others! Possibly due to how different metabolisms, gut biomes, and genes are able to break down the resistant amylose starches in legumes?
The old diabetes forum adage remains so relevant: Your Diabetes May Vary
It seems clear that you want to make some changes to your menu @Djangoman - hope the forum can give you some ideas, techniques and suggestions of things to try.
You might also want to take a look at one of the various meal plans for ideas and inspiration?
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