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The next big thing in meters?

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exciting stuff..............

cheaper as well...........
 
be interesting whether this measures interstitial glucose levels (as per CGM) or blood glucose levels as other meters measure.....
 
By the power of light???
But no lancets? Where do I sign?
 
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It certainly looks interesting, but it's a little on the hefty side. I'd like to see if it's accurate and can be worn without spoiling the line of a shirt, or easily slept on.

Wonder how much the 'optical gel' is going to retail for, too....
 
I want one!
 
Deus - optical gel is pretty cheap. Maybe ?10 for a year's worth if memory serves. It is a bit 'chunky' and can't be worn during exercise. CE mark has been granted and they were going to launch in Europe early this year, but the last I heard that had been put back slightly. I suspect it will be out either this year or next though.
 
Im on the waiting list from a while ago... I think its around a couple of grand with a life of 4 years??? Mike will confirm that? ?500 quid a year...

I dont know how much My expert meter test strips cost the NHS per pot... ? say 10 or 15 pounds?? @ 200 per month that would be ?40 - ?60 per month (This is an estimate I could be completly off the mark here). SO..... 1 years supply of strips = ?480 - ?720.

vs ?500 for the sensor (Yearly cost at 4 years life @ ?2000) then plus strips for calibration.

Think I could get it funded?? 😛

If it does what it says on the tin, Id fund this myself.
 
bennyg70 said:
Im on the waiting list from a while ago... I think its around a couple of grand with a life of 4 years??? Mike will confirm that? ?500 quid a year...

I dont know how much My expert meter test strips cost the NHS per pot... ? say 10 or 15 pounds?? @ 200 per month that would be ?40 - ?60 per month (This is an estimate I could be completly off the mark here). SO..... 1 years supply of strips = ?480 - ?720.

vs ?500 for the sensor (Yearly cost at 4 years life @ ?2000) then plus strips for calibration.

Think I could get it funded?? 😛

If it does what it says on the tin, Id fund this myself.
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Hmm...so not so cheap then 🙄
 
Once the actual cost to the NHS is known, and your new Clinical Commissioning Group is up and running, you could try putting together a business case for funding. I'd suggest getting some backing (perhaps from DUK?) to help with this if you're serious.
 
This device does NOT replace ALL finger pricks. They recommend that it is used in conjunction with finger pricks. From their FAQ:

8. Are any test strips, lancets or needles necessary?
Except for periodic baseline reference measurements, there is no need for ongoing finger sticks to constantly recalibrate the C8 MediSensors monitor. However, intended as an adjunct device, it will not completely eliminate the need for finger sticks. Before making any medical decision, confirm your readings with a finger stick.
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That said I still want one 🙂
 
Northerner said:
Hmm...so not so cheap then 🙄
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Well not cheap exactly... but given that one years sensors alone would cost you nearly ?2,500 (never mind the device itself and ongoing transmitter replacement) the C8's $4000 (?2,500ish) price tag for approx four years (and maybe more?) is a bit of a game changer IMO. Will be interesting to see what the sensor-based manufacturers do with their pricing structure when it launches!
 
I suspect the fact that the manufacturers have already said you'll still need to do conventional blood sugar testing instantly kills off any chance of this being funded on the NHS. They don't even understand the argument that more testing reduces complications and thus overall expenditure, so they certainly aren't going to understand the case for why people with diabetes should have two different blood sugar measuring devices.
 
DeusXM said:
I suspect the fact that the manufacturers have already said you'll still need to do conventional blood sugar testing instantly kills off any chance of this being funded on the NHS. They don't even understand the argument that more testing reduces complications and thus overall expenditure, so they certainly aren't going to understand the case for why people with diabetes should have two different blood sugar measuring devices.
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Ha -

The idea of having two different types of strips on my prescription is out of the question with my team. It is not allowed! Not even on my monthly 200 allowence If I had 150 of one and 50 the other (The idea being I could have an "On the go smaller monitor " for nights out etc).
 
DeusXM said:
I suspect the fact that the manufacturers have already said you'll still need to do conventional blood sugar testing instantly kills off any chance of this being funded on the NHS. They don't even understand the argument that more testing reduces complications and thus overall expenditure, so they certainly aren't going to understand the case for why people with diabetes should have two different blood sugar measuring devices.
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I'm not sure I agree with that entirely. The NHS DO currently fund CGM for some people with particular clinical need (and this is even though NICE are yet to 'officially' recommend CGM as a treatment with a technology appraisal etc). Many D clinics also have and use CGM to 'share out' among their patients to help diagnose and tackle BG challenges. And ALL cgms still need calibration with fingersticks.

I agree that CGM is still very quite in the UK, but its value is recognised and they are used by many clinics. Infact this sort of device makes perfect sense in a clinic setting to me - I wonder how many expensive cgm devices are left of clinic shelves because they simply cannot afford the expense of the sensors.
 
Why has this come up again? - I registered last September - was it after you wrote about it in your blog Mike?

My area doesn't even have a CGM to loan out. They certainly don't seem to understand why they are necessary.

Read Diatribe (now THAT'S my idea of what a magazine for people with diabetes should look like!) and how they promote the use of CGM. Specifically the TREND ARROWS so you can see which direction you're heading in to do something about it. Another of those 'don't get me started' rants.....!
 
heasandford said:
Why has this come up again? - I registered last September - was it after you wrote about it in your blog Mike?
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I'm not sure, but I've seen a post about this pop up in a couple of forums. Maybe C8 are beginning to stir again?
 
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