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[JITR]

From the Amazon 'Read sample' of Katie and Giancarlo Caldesi's The Reverse Your Diabetes Cookbook.
Tip: follow the link and click 'Read sample' under the cover image (top left).
Includes a useful introduction to low carb from Jenny Phillips, a dietitian.

 

[beating_my_betes]

I'm sure the recipes taste great! Shame about the same misinformation as always, in the introduction

 

[Burylancs]

I'm sure the recipes taste great! Shame about the same misinformation as always, in the introduction

The misinformation is in the title ..'Reverse your Diabetes'. Unscrupulously leeching on the denial and delusion of desperate newbies. In the present state of knowledge a secure diagnosis of T2 cannot be 'reversed', only managed for a lifetime.

 

[Alan44]

Yes @Burylancs and @beating_my_betes we generally don't on this forum, use the phrase "Reverse" but prefer the phrase "remission", that said, many newly diagnosed members will be more familiar with the phrase reverse/reversal when using google.
I trust you understand

Alan

 

[Drummer]

I do strict low carb and have no problem claiming normal glucose levels, top end of normal HbA1c, far more normal weight, activity levels and the like - I travelled the 'healthy' high carb low road for decades and at diagnosis I just turned around and came back, muttering 'I told you so' at regular intervals..

 

[beating_my_betes]

The misinformation is in the title.

that's about the only bit I agree with 😉

 

[beating_my_betes]

Yes @Burylancs and @beating_my_betes we generally don't on this forum, use the phrase "Reverse" but prefer the phrase "remission", that said, many newly diagnosed members will be more familiar with the phrase reverse/reversal when using google.
I trust you understand

Alan

I've seen this mentioned a lot, but it has never really made sense to me.

Can you explain why the distinction?

 

[beating_my_betes]

I travelled the 'healthy' high carb low road for decades

Perhaps your GPS was on the fritz 😉

 

[Alan44]

I've seen this mentioned a lot, but it has never really made sense to me.

Can you explain why the distinction?

Nope
Aint life weird

Alan 😉

 

[beating_my_betes]

Nope
Aint life weird

Alan 😉

Well, given it's somewhat of a rule here, hopefully someone will be able to.

 

[Alan44]

Well, given it's somewhat of a rule here, hopefully someone will be able to.

Which rule are you referring to "somewhat".

 

[beating_my_betes]

Which rule are you referring to "somewhat".

we generally don't on this forum, use the phrase "Reverse" but prefer the phrase "remission", that said, many newly diagnosed members will be more familiar with the phrase reverse/reversal when using google.
I trust you understand

Alan

The above seemed like somewhat of a rule. If not, then am I ok to keep using "reversal"

 

[rebrascora]

Which rule are you referring to "somewhat".

The use of the word remission rather than reversal.

 

[Alan44]

The above seemed like somewhat of a rule. If not, then am I ok to keep using "reversal"

That as you well know, is not a rule under user guidelines, but preferred terminology by DUK

 

[beating_my_betes]

That as you well know, is not a rule under user guidelines, but preferred terminology by DUK

If I knew I wouldn't have asked.

 

[harbottle]

I'm sure the recipes taste great! Shame about the same misinformation as always, in the introduction

What misinformation?

 

[Burylancs]

The above seemed like somewhat of a rule. If not, then am I ok to keep using "reversal"

No you're not OK using the term 'reversal' of Type 2 Diabetes - it's pure charlatanism and shouldn't be seen on a Diabetic Support Group. But, hey ho, Truth is the first victim of t'Internet.

 

[beating_my_betes]

What misinformation?

There's misinformation and misleading information.

Shall we count the ways?

 

[beating_my_betes]

No you're not OK using the term 'reversal' of Type 2 Diabetes - it's pure charlatanism and shouldn't be seen on a Diabetic Support Group. But, hey ho, Truth is the first victim of t'Internet.

Perhaps you could present some arguments to support your postion.

 

[harbottle]

Remission is the clinical term for keeping hba1c normal without medication for at least 3 months. With weight loss, low calorie diet, or weight loss.

In a medical context, clinicians used to use the term 'Reversed' just to mean levels had returned to normal (Due to some intervention, like diet, surgery and in some cases even medication) and with no consideration of length of time they had been normal. (Many papers talk about 'reversal' after bariatric surgery, but only a small percentage gaining 'remission' and keeping it normal for a longer period).

The use of remission was favoured because some people misunderstood what this meant and also some used it to imply that they could cure it. Certainly Dr Unwin never used the term to mean it was cured, and Taylor also used an analogy of reversing a car into a garage and then driving back out again to show how the high glucose could return.