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Struggling with breakfast ideas and lunch

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Since 2015 diagnosis pretty much.. might have contracted a bit from 8 hours to 5 hours.. why?
There may be a few occasions when I have a morning meal then usually skip lunch and just have dinner.

Can't argue with that
Sounds just like the Newcastle Diet.
And definitely the maintenance afterwards.
Couple of shakes in the morning, same calories as your coffees, than a window for an evening meal.
(Well unless you can manage 1500 to 2000 calories in that window, but I would probably be sick on that amount of food)
 
It's not as hard as you think to be honest.

I have my evening meal at 7pm say. I then skip breakfast, get home from work around 2pm. (Thats 17 hours right there) Go straight onto my exercise...eat lunch at 3pm. I got used to not eating breakfast and I feel more energized as a result. If I feel hungry on waking I do eat but that's a rarity now. I do calorie count to make sure I am not too low on cals.

I say I do 16 - 8 but I am more interested in at least 16 hours fasting than I am an extended eating window. Looking at my general day I have a five hour eating window roughly. So long as I get the calories/nutrition it works well.

Fasting has a fair few health benefits🙂
@Niori
Don't you miss feeling hungry?
 
@Niori
Don't you miss feeling hungry?
I enjoy rarely being driven by hunger. I don’t usually have low calories. As you’ve pointed out many times fat has more calories than carbs and if you’re eating real nutritionally dense foods it’s perfectly possible to get 1500-2000 calories in a day with two meals without it being Xmas dinner overload.
 
You could keep some boiled eggs in the fridge, there is cooked meats and cheese. Your options are a bit limited if you don't want to cook anything. Nobody said finding the right foods was easy.
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@Tdm I made these today. Ham chopped up, then added egg and milk mixture (4 eggs and 165ml coconut milk, normal milk works fine) and sprinkled some grated cheddar on top. It made 5 - 3 for picnic today and 2 more for breakfast for the next 2 days. The pots are from Aldi etc cheese bake things but any ramekin or similar will do. (Or silicon muffin tin - they can be harder to get out cleanly from metal tin) - but then you need to transfer to a tub whereas these I could just cover with cling film or silicon cover.)
 
I get hungry...just not in a morning. I enjoy not being ruled by it anymore, after all I didn't end up here because of my healthy eating habits

I would so miss feeling hungry.
The anticipation of food.
The smell of cooking.
The imagination of the flavour.
The first bite.

As to mornings.

Getting up, cleaning my teeth, deciding on what to eat.
The smell of the bread toasting.

I don't want to give that up.
 
I would so miss feeling hungry.
The anticipation of food.
The smell of cooking.
The imagination of the flavour.
The first bite.

As to mornings.

Getting up, cleaning my teeth, deciding on what to eat.
The smell of the bread toasting.

I don't want to give that up.
Err Niori said they did get hunger, just not first thing. You are ignoring that reply and acting as if they said they never got hungry. All those things can still be true without the compulsive drive of hunger.

Sounds like you’re still ruled by hunger to me.
 
Err Niori said they did get hunger, just not first thing. You are ignoring that reply and acting as if they said they never got hungry. All those things can still be true without the compulsive drive of hunger.

Sounds like you’re still ruled by hunger to me.

I certainly like feeling hungry.
However, to be fair, didn't ask for your opinion, I'm not really interested in what you think I am ruled by.
Are you scared of hunger?
Do you think you'll snap and just eat and eat?

I'm sure @Niori can answer for themself though?
 
I certainly like feeling hungry.
However, to be fair, didn't ask for your opinion, I'm not really interested in what you think I am ruled by.
Are you scared of hunger?
Do you think you'll snap and just eat and eat?

I'm sure @Niori can answer for themself though?
Not at all scared of hunger. That’s your perception not mine. I just don’t feel it that often or feel the need to seek it out. It it happens I know it won’t last.

This is a forum. Everyone can see your posts and anyone can reply with their observations. Put up with it/scroll past or don’t post. I’m sure Nori can answer for themselves, but your combative attitude might put some off.
 
Not at all scared of hunger. That’s your perception not mine. I just don’t feel it that often or feel the need to seek it out. It it happens I know it won’t last.

This is a forum. Everyone can see your posts and anyone can reply with their observations. Put up with it/scroll past or don’t post. I’m sure Nori can answer for themselves, but your combative attitude might put some off.
You seem scared?
Me, yes, I like the feeling.
It enhances enjoyment of food.
Not being hungry really would kill me.
As you say, each to their own though,
 
I would so miss feeling hungry.
The anticipation of food.
The smell of cooking.
The imagination of the flavour.
The first bite.

As to mornings.

Getting up, cleaning my teeth, deciding on what to eat.
The smell of the bread toasting.

I don't want to give that up.
I get that 🙂
I would so miss feeling hungry.
The anticipation of food.
The smell of cooking.
The imagination of the flavour.
The first bite.

As to mornings.

Getting up, cleaning my teeth, deciding on what to eat.
The smell of the bread toasting.

I don't want to give that up.
I guess...2014....I was 20 stone. A big girl. I was fat, miserable and totally eating my feelings. I loved food you see....enough to cook it for a living!

Since then I lost weight. I Gained it again 3 steps forward, 2 steps back and so on.
I now have almost reached a healthy weight range. Half a stone to go, with a final push of 2.5 stone gone this year already. I eat well. I ditched fast food, booze. I exercise. I am pushing 50 and feel fitter and stronger than I did at 35. I actually love it...and I love that I don't need to eat my feelings anymore if that makes sense.
Other things are slowly but surely replacing My food obsession that would have killed me. May still. I'm sure it's done a lot of damage already but for now I am enjoying my yoga practise and not getting winded on long walks.

As a plus...my knees no longer hurt either lol
 
I get that 🙂

I guess...2014....I was 20 stone. A big girl. I was fat, miserable and totally eating my feelings. I loved food you see....enough to cook it for a living!

Since then I lost weight. I Gained it again 3 steps forward, 2 steps back and so on.
I now have almost reached a healthy weight range. Half a stone to go, with a final push of 2.5 stone gone this year already. I eat well. I ditched fast food, booze. I exercise. I am pushing 50 and feel fitter and stronger than I did at 35. I actually love it...and I love that I don't need to eat my feelings anymore if that makes sense.
Other things are slowly but surely replacing My food obsession that would have killed me. May still. I'm sure it's done a lot of damage already but for now I am enjoying my yoga practise and not getting winded on long walks.

As a plus...my knees no longer hurt either lol

I'm totally with you.
I still like food.
Keep at the weight loss. from what you have said you are doing a brilliant job.
One day at a time. 😉

(Feeling you on the knees as well!)
 
You seem scared?
Me, yes, I like the feeling.
It enhances enjoyment of food.
Not being hungry really would kill me.
As you say, each to their own though,
Why do I seem scared? Enlighten me please

Simply because my style of eating doesn’t make me desperately hungry? Is hunger a badge of honour or something macho like that?

I said I wasn’t driven by hunger not that I never felt it. I still anticipate and enjoy good food, even whilst feeling no desire to eat **** food.
 
Why do I seem scared? Enlighten me please

Simply because my style of eating doesn’t make me desperately hungry? Is hunger a badge of honour or something macho like that?

I said I wasn’t driven by hunger not that I never felt it. I still anticipate and enjoy good food, even whilst feeling no desire to eat **** food.
You anticipate food without feeling hungry.
Isn't that simply eating for the sake of eating?
 
Well unless you can manage 1500 to 2000 calories in that window, but I would probably be sick on that amount of food)
Easily... no calorie restriction for me thanks.
 
Certainly
5000+ calories in 5 hours, can't argue that then.
No not that either.. when I kept a detailed food diary my average daily intake in my 5 hours was about 2,500 cal or thereabouts.
 
You anticipate food without feeling hungry.
Isn't that simply eating for the sake of eating?
Yes
No

And again you are misinterpreting what I say. I said I wasn’t driven by hunger and didn’t get desperately hunger. I know when I’m ready to eat and when I’m not. If I ate more frequently than I do then I would be eating for the sake of it. If I waited for gnawing hunger as you suggest I’d struggle to eat sensibly and meet my nutritional goals. My way I eat a reasonable but not excessive amount of calories and meet my nutritional needs.

Why can you not accept that not everyone responds the same way as you? Your way has worked or you. Thats great. It doesn’t work for everyone. As you quoted, inappropriately, at me “Everyone manages their health differently. Please be mindful of this.”
 
No not that either.. when I kept a detailed food diary my average daily intake in my 5 hours was about 2,500 cal or thereabouts.

So, calorie counting .
That's a reasonable maintainance intake for your weight.
Brilliant you are stepping up to calorie control too 🙂
 
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