Side effects of analogue insulins?

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Animal insulin takes 30 mins to start working and peaks a couple of hours later and all people using animal insulin start the basal change at least two hours before needed some go a bit more. if you try doing as your dsn says you will end up in big trouble :(
 
She only said it in passing comment, so I'm expecting her to come back with different instructions once she has spoken properly to my consultant. I'll keep you informed.

She also said 'I'm not sure they even make animal insulin anymore, but I will speak to your consultant and get back to you...' I'm intrigued to know just how many people in my health care catchment area actually use animal insulin, it doesn't sound like many, judging by my nurse's knowledge of it.
Cate.
 
Northerner said:
This is quite a handy wallchart of all available insulins:

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Magazines/Insulinwallchart.pdf

Although I have to say, I use Novorapid and it takes 15mins-1hour to get working for me - I hardly ever inject just before eating! I suppose like anything to do with diabetes you use the guidelines at first, then adapt to your own experience 🙂
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I've been informed that this is out of date and that some products listed are withdrawn or defunct. However, for those that are extant, and being prescribed, it still holds relevance 🙂
 
Well, they do make animal insulin, and will do for years to come. You always get this kind of reaction with rare prescriptions, whatever they are. I think I'm the only person on the island taking Creon, so neither doctors or nurses are familiar with dosing, which I learned from the pancreatitis forum.
 
mikeyB said:
Well, they do make animal insulin, and will do for years to come. You always get this kind of reaction with rare prescriptions, whatever they are. I think I'm the only person on the island taking Creon, so neither doctors or nurses are familiar with dosing, which I learned from the pancreatitis forum.
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I looked on Wockharts website yesterday and they still have both bovine and porcine Insulin's listed!
 
Well, they do make animal insulin, and will do for years to come. You always get this kind of reaction with rare prescriptions,
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The prescription isn't that rare because the company would not be viable for half a dozen people
grovesy said:
I looked on Wockharts website yesterday and they still have both bovine and porcine Insulin's listed!
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Obviously they still make it as I use it and not washing up liquid in my pump 🙂
 
Pumper_Sue said:
Animal insulin takes 30 mins to start working and peaks a couple of hours later and all people using animal insulin start the basal change at least two hours before needed some go a bit more. if you try doing as your dsn says you will end up in big trouble :(
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I thought changing the basal 2 hours before was standard for analogues?
 
Radders said:
I thought changing the basal 2 hours before was standard for analogues?
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I have no idea what is right or wrong I know many change 1hour before needed and many change at the 2 hour mark.
 
Northerner said:
I've been informed that this is out of date and that some products listed are withdrawn or defunct. However, for those that are extant, and being prescribed, it still holds relevance 🙂
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Yes its ten years out of date. Diabetes UK revised the chart in 2012. But even so the 2012 one is slipping out of date e.g no mention of Tresiba or Toujeu.

Here is the 2012 revision ...Please don't post the 2007 version again !
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/upload/Professionals/Publications/Wallcharts/WallchartInsulins.pdf
 
Well today is change-over day!

Both my consultant and my nurse agreed to the switch over with no resistance whatsoever, which I was so grateful for. They faxed over a prescription to my local GP and I had the prescription by Friday (a total of 5 days since I'd asked to switch over, they were really efficient, which again I was so appreciative for).

So my nurse has emailed me over my new basal rates and told me to start this morning so that she is on hand at the other end of the telephone to advise. I am so grateful for her support. I told her I was worried I might have an adverse reaction to the new insulin, with it being so different to the one I've been on solidly for 6 years +. But she told me that if she thought I might react badly in some way, she wouldn't have agreed to the switch.

So here I am, sat waiting for it to kick in - I have no idea what I am expecting to feel, or to even happen. But I shall keep you informed! Thanks for all of your support and input over the last week,
Cate
 
@Catherine-louise I hope you have remembered to change your insulin duration otherwise you will run into trouble with hypos.
 
Fingers crossed for you! I've not commented on this thread but have been reading it with interest. I hope it works out for you. Do let us know how you get on 🙂
 
Catherine-louise said:
Yes, I've been told by my nurse to change the duration to 5 hours, does that sound about right?
Cate
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No it's not right, it should be the minimum of 6 hours and possibly up to 8 hours for some people. Your nurse is working on the analogue insulin duration.
 
Oh I wonder why she's said that then.
Mine is Hypurin Porcine Neutral, is that the same as yours?

I will email her now and double check,
Cate
 
Ugh! I have been into town today with my Mum and walking around shops for an hour and a half and it has been one hypo after another, I feel absolutely ghastly and so exhausted and weepy :'(
I don't know whether to decrease my afternoon basal rates or my carb ratios/boluses with lunch?

Cate
 
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