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ChristineBee

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Hi every body, I am just curious about other peoples ratios....My morning ratio is very high, and hope there is somebody else like me out there.

Breakfast 4 units quick acting for every 10 carbohydrates/ 1 CP
Lunch 1.5 units quick acting for every 10 carbohydrates/ 1CP
Dinner 1 unit quick acting for every 10 carbohydrate/ 1CP

I am so insulin resistant in the morning, and to correct high BG readings I use 1 unit to bring my blood down 1 mmol!! For the rest of the day 1 unit of corrector brings me down 3/4 mmol.......

Christine
 
Hi christine my ratios are 2:1 , 2 units for every 10 gr of carbs for all meals 🙂
 
Hi Christine, I'm the same as you in the morning - 4 units for 10g, then it declines through the day, with 2:10g at lunch and 1.5:10g evening. I have only done about 3 corrections in over 3 years, but go off 1 unit=3mmol/l 🙂
 
Like most I need more in the morning............

Breakfast 3 unit for 10g
Lunch 1.25 unit for 10g [just recently changed to this]
Dinner 1.5 units for 10g
Evening/Supper 2 units for 10g

I am puzzled by my new lunch ratio, but that's what the numbers say...........

For corrections, I adjust mine according to my blood sugar level, so the higher I am, the less effective 1 unit is at lowering my BG, still to find anyone else practicing this method......:D
 
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Breakfast I take 2.7 per 10g carb, 2 per 10g carb for lunch, 2.5 per 10g carb for dinner.

My correction is 1 unit per 1 mmol
 
Having not met DAPHNE :D we don't do CP 's so your numbers all look a bit weird to me - we just total the carbs and divide by a given number but I think I've converted correctly-

Breakfast 2.5 units per CP
Lunch and Evening 2 units per CP

Tho' think they all will have to increase with colder weather - will see what the numbers are like after a couple of days back at school (last week being half term)

NRB - we are using different corrections at higher numbers now since I saw you mention the otherday🙂 Haven't talked to clinic about it but makes sense to me and they don't have to live with the D fairy 😱
 
I'm sure there's something about needing more the higher your BG is, in either 'Using Insulin' by John Walsh or 'Think Like a Pancreas' by Gary Scheiner .....

I'm just 1u per 10g all the time, and 1u per 3mmol. About the only diabetic thing I am slightly 'normal' in !
 
I think mine are:

Breaky 12 grams per unit of I
Lunch 10 grams per unit of I
Dinner 15 grams per unit of I
 
trophywench said:
I'm sure there's something about needing more the higher your BG is, in either 'Using Insulin' by John Walsh or 'Think Like a Pancreas' by Gary Scheiner .....
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Yep the higher your BG the more insulin resistant you are.
My previous pump had a lovely feature where you could programe it for this problem.

Mine was set for 14mmol/l increase correction by 15% and set for higher increases the higher the blood sugar. I have only needed the 15% increase twice in the 4 years I have been pumping and it does work very well.
 
These are the sorts of things the NHS should have a pile of leaflets about. Sadly, they don't seem to know nor care.

Still so much to learn.

Rob
 
At the mo ratios are:

1u:7g for breakfast
1u:10g for dinner
1u:10g for tea

but could change at any moment.

Rob
 
pazza said:
Hi every body, I am just curious about other peoples ratios....My morning ratio is very high, and hope there is somebody else like me out there.

Breakfast 4 units quick acting for every 10 carbohydrates/ 1 CP
Lunch 1.5 units quick acting for every 10 carbohydrates/ 1CP
Dinner 1 unit quick acting for every 10 carbohydrate/ 1CP

I am so insulin resistant in the morning, and to correct high BG readings I use 1 unit to bring my blood down 1 mmol!! For the rest of the day 1 unit of corrector brings me down 3/4 mmol.......

Christine
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Hi Christine mine is:-

1 unit NovoRapid for evry 10 carbs breakfast
1 unit NovoRapid for every 10 carbs lunch
3/4 unit NovoRapid for every 10 carbs Dinner ( if total carbs works out eg 9 units I would just take 6 units)
I'm Insulin sensitive, even if I had to take a couple of extra units, for a higher BS, then I have to be careful throughout the day, because the 'extra' insulin would still be working, and I have forgotten this sometimes 😱. Sheena
 
It's good to see how different we all are...I must add if I wake up with a beautiful 5.5mmol, I would have my 4 units per 10 carbohydrates AND I would still need at least 2 extra units to stop myself going high pre lunch. I have tried putting my BI up, but I have hypos mid-late afternoon (tested that out on various occasions by having a carbohydrate free lunch). So, it just shows how resistant I am in the morning!!😡!!
 
Hi pazza.

have you ever considered swapping your humulin for maybe humalog or novorapid ?

Just wondered if might make a difference.🙂

Rob
 
Hi Rob, after the birth of my daughter I was put onto novorapid and levemir. I struggled so much. I then went back onto the older style humulin s and humulin I, which were as near as possible to my faithful monotard and actrapid. However, humulin I wasn't doing it's job and whilst on the dafne course they suggested returning to levemir....I was doubtful, but with my new learned principles levemir is working okay now! I hate having two different brands of insulin and was considering asking to go onto actrapid (novo)! But I'm embarrassed to say it's just because I hate having two different pens/brands. I've just got to grips with humulin s and levemir and how they work, the thought of going back to novo rapid (other than it being the brand I want)! dousn't make me so enthusiastic! However, it may work, but I feel I'm not having such a hard time with humulin s, it's just the huge dose in the morning due to resistance.....Thank you for your suggestion....more please!!
 
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Hi Rob, after the birth of my daughter I was put onto novorapid and levemir. I struggled so much. I then went back onto the older style humulin s and humulin I, which were as near as possible to my faithful monotard and actrapid. However, humulin I wasn't doing it's job and whilst on the dafne course they suggested returning to levemir....I was doubtful, but with my new learned principles levemir is working okay now! I hate having two different brands of insulin and was considering asking to go onto actrapid (novo)! But I'm embarrassed to say it's just because I hate having two different pens/brands. I've just got to grips with humulin s and levemir and how they work, the thought of going back to novo rapid (other than it being the brand I want)! dousn't make me so enthusiastic! However, it may work, but I feel I'm not having such a hard time with humulin s, it's just the huge dose in the morning due to resistance.....Thank you for your suggestion....more please!!
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Hi pazza,

Have you tried lantus instead of levemir? That was my basal until I went on my pump, I now pump with novorapid, used to have humalog/lantus on MDI and don't really notice any difference between novorapid and humalog.
 
Been there and tried Lantus!...forgetting as to why I came off it actually! Thank you anyway!! More ideas and suggestions? or shall I just continue with the huge amount of quick acting in the morning???!
 
pazza said:
Been there and tried Lantus!...forgetting as to why I came off it actually! Thank you anyway!! More ideas and suggestions? or shall I just continue with the huge amount of quick acting in the morning???!
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It depends on what you call a huge amount really - you need what you need for the carbs in the food you are eating in order to keep your levels steady. As I said earlier, my breakfast ratio is the same as yours, but I only have 15g carbs for breakfast, so that's 6 units. I need more than you do for later in the day, but my total daily dose of insulin is about 35 units which isn't a lot really. We have some members here who inject hundreds of units a day, and yet others who have to be careful about every half-unit! We are the way we are, I think. I know that a lot of my breakfast fast-acting is to help deal with the output from my liver at that time of day, not my carbs/breakfast, but as I am on one lantus injection a day which serves me perfectly well it's the only solution 🙂
 
Currently 1:8g for breakfast, 1:7g for lunch and 1:10g for evening meal.
 
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