Paranoid or sensible?

Felinia

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I can't decide which! I have chosen to put myself back down in semi-lockdown, as the cases in my area have shot up 6-fold. I'm only planning on going out for medical appointments, exercise (which I feel is vital for my health and well-being) and the unmanned food shop. Socialising will be limited back to phone and email only, until numbers drop again. Everything else will be online. As an obese 70 year old diabetic with other medical issues I hope the answer is sensible!!!
 

Docb

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Must admit I get tired of all the announcements and the implications that somehow HMG are looking after you and will make everything better. Mostly hogwash as far as I can see.

I'm going to do what I have done from the beginning and that is to take control of my own destiny by understanding the issues and making my own assessments of the risks to my well being and minimising them for myself. I will go about my daily business as I want to. As such, you will not find me on crowded public transport, in crowded bars or restaurants or anywhere I am likely to come into prolonged contact with strangers. All the rest I reckon I can do in a manner that minimises risks to a point where they are acceptable. The only problem I have is with my grandchildren, three of whom are at school and the fourth is returning to college next week. Still thinking about how to handle that.

I've got one up on you @Felina because I am not obese but I am older and a bloke so that cancels that out!
 

Bruce Stephens

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Seems a reasonable choice to me. Obviously there are some things that are safer than others: a walk in the park with someone (so outside) is much safer than meeting someone indoors. Meeting (in person) with someone else similarly careful is likely to be safe enough.

But we're not experts, so we make judgements as best we can. If you feel most comfortable being more careful than the government might like that seems like their problem.
 

eggyg

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I’m starting to get anxious too. I’ve not been to any restaurants or pubs and go shopping through the week at a time I know is quiet. Like @Docb my problem is grandchildren. Three at school, two of those in secondary where I feel there is a bigger risk. Seven year old already caught a cold and passed it on to mum and two year old sister. Our daughter stayed off work yesterday so we didn’t have to babysit but what happens next week or the week after? Not obese or over 70 but I don’t have a spleen. It’s a difficult one. You’re certainly not being paranoid, you’re doing what you feel is best for you.
 

Becka

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Since the end of lockdown I have only been out to have needles inserted to either inject or extract fluids. The current situation seemed inevitable the way the government were forcing people to interact, and the first time I went out it was clear few people cared about distancing. So I decided then to remain mostly isolated and do most of my shopping online.

I have used buses, as I have not had any choice, but these are thankfully not very busy. Seemingly more due to more people avoiding them than the passenger number restrictions. And mask wearing has been generally obeyed. I have also visited two shops, a Co-Op and and Marks & Spencer Food Hall near my surgery, when out as they are both small so not busy, and I can self-checkout.

The only problem is that I would like to visit my dad, about 150 miles away, but transport is a problem there. I do need to just go out for my own mental health as I still have not done that, but it will be dependent on being able to go somewhere isolated. Ironically I may be about to have my transport situation sorted out, which would help with both of those, but I am expecting to be put on insulin very shortly so will probably not safe using the roads (on a motorbike) in the short term after that.

When shielding ended the government said a new tool was being developed which would provide a much specific gauge of someone's risk than the broad categories used before. I am not sure how much that would differ from the ALMA assessment, but on that I am still considered a very high risk.

So for me it does not seem paranoid at all to be extremely cautious. It is all a matter of judgement, so I am taking advantage of the shielding break to get in all my medical needs, but after that will just have to use my judgement on whether it seems safe to visit my dad. But otherwise I will stay isolated.
 

grovesy

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Although my husband is still working from home though he has done one morning in the office a couple of week ago. Our school teacher son who still lives at home, has been back to work for 10 days, but it has taken him 3 days to get access for test, which won't be till tomorrow. He has mild cough cold symptoms.
 

Pumper_Sue

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I suspect this is the gently does it approach before a full lock down comes again anyway. As before I shall carry on as normal.
 

Haemagoblin

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I have done the same, Felinia I put myself in lockdown, to be honest a few months ago and I only leave my flat to collect meds from pharmacy, and food shops! I am quite happy to do this and my health has been great!!

I think your answer is very sensible as you are putting your health first and as a person with T1 diabetes, I know how precious health is.
 

DianeCatCrazy

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You are being careful and sensible, I’m 51 and v.obese with a 93 year old father. Hubby and myself rarely go out as we both still work from home. We have to food shop for both but go in quieter times. Just cannot risk passing on infection to frail father.
 

travellor

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I suspect this is the gently does it approach before a full lock down comes again anyway. As before I shall carry on as normal.
"Normal" is going into the pub, eating in restaurants, I'd have been on a few planes this year, I'd have taken the motorhome onto the continent, I'd have been to the cinema, theatres, live music events, and about now I'd be planning the Christmas markets!
I haven't managed to carry on as normal!
But even though the infection rate is increasing, the fatality rate isn't anywhere near were it was at the start of the pandemic, so I am taking that into account now.
Bit I'm definitely going for "sensible" here.
 

Pumper_Sue

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"Normal" is going into the pub, eating in restaurants, I'd have been on a few planes this year, I'd have taken the motorhome onto the continent, I'd have been to the cinema, theatres, live music events, and about now I'd be planning the Christmas markets!
I haven't managed to carry on as normal!
But even though the infection rate is increasing, the fatality rate isn't anywhere near were it was at the start of the pandemic, so I am taking that into account now.
Bit I'm definitely going for "sensible" here.
Ah but my normal is living in the country (small village) Going for 2 walks a day and sleeping the rest or doing very little and shopping once every 2 weeks. So nothing has changed for me at all.
 

Becka

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But even though the infection rate is increasing, the fatality rate isn't anywhere near were it was at the start of the pandemic, so I am taking that into account now.
Do not forget that there is a delay between the various rates.

The number of positive tests is a gauge of the transmission from about two weeks ago, because of the incubation period of the virus. But during the first wave it was said that the death rate for those who were hospitalized has a lag of about two weeks after being infected.

So we will not start to see the results of measure taken next Monday until the end of the month, whilst we will not know how many of those infected today will die until the middle of October.

If you are at a higher risk, like Felinia or me, I would not look at the current death rate without regard to that.
 

Ljc

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I agree, you are being sensible. Do what you feel comfortable with.

I live with my 94 yr old dad who was shielded , so I shielded with him as I didn’t want to bring anything home to him , I am 68 and have a few health problems but not bad enough (thankfully ) to have been on the shielded list.
The R rate in my part of Kent is rising probably because folks have been congregating on the beaches etc so we have decided wherever possible continue with shielding. I’ve done our grocery shopping online for several years.

I was only saying to dad the other day that I am so glad I am retired now as my work involved close contact with people (NHS) and I found out that staff have not been provided with face masks
 

grovesy

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Do not forget that there is a delay between the various rates.

The number of positive tests is a gauge of the transmission from about two weeks ago, because of the incubation period of the virus. But during the first wave it was said that the death rate for those who were hospitalized has a lag of about two weeks after being infected.

So we will not start to see the results of measure taken next Monday until the end of the month, whilst we will not know how many of those infected today will die until the middle of October.

If you are at a higher risk, like Felinia or me, I would not look at the current death rate without regard to that.
I read that Manchester has had rise in hospital admissions and deaths in the last week, the highest for quite sometime.
 

PhoebeC

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I think each to their own.

A family friend shielded, didn’t see her family or friends and died from an accident at home. She was miserable and lonely for her last months alive. So I think some prices are too much.

I am avoiding busy places but not shielding.
Shopping only quite places and quite times.

We have eaten out during the eat out scheme, only quite times in quite places. If we have done pubs it has been outdoors in the beer gardens.

If we see people it is within the guidelines and as outdoors as much is possible, and gaps between seeing people.

The child has been back in school for a week and already has a cold, which is trying to start on me. It was inventible with her going back, she’s not been around other children much since March so it was only a matter of time.

Do what you are comfortable with
 

Felinia

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So many people are reporting colds, and of course the whole family will immediately self isolate then, just in case. Makes me wonder just how many kids will still be in school in a few weeks time! One of my neighbours is totally irresponsible, with masses of different visitors in and out daily, and the children run wild. Last week saw 3+ mums with assorted school age children and babies all walking up the hill together for school. When another mum remonstrated, all she got was "we'll be alright, I'm not going to stop seeing my friends". Sad falling out there!
 

grovesy

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So many people are reporting colds, and of course the whole family will immediately self isolate then, just in case. Makes me wonder just how many kids will still be in school in a few weeks time! One of my neighbours is totally irresponsible, with masses of different visitors in and out daily, and the children run wild. Last week saw 3+ mums with assorted school age children and babies all walking up the hill together for school. When another mum remonstrated, all she got was "we'll be alright, I'm not going to stop seeing my friends". Sad falling out there!
We can only take care of our environment and do what is best for us.
I know after booking an appointment with my home hairdresser , i then panicked and thought should I be doing this. Then thought I will see in the weeks between and the appointment, I came around to . In the end we did things differently and I did not have as much done as normal. Then I booked for 12 weeks instead of 8.
 

atoll

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i would start stocking up on food and essentials NOW,ready for future lock downs,of most probably high risk and over 70's who will be ordered to stay at home in the next 6 weeks.
changing perscriptions from monthly to every 3 months will also give you a buffer if there are disruptions.
if it does not happen at least you will have a good supply in for the inevitable Brexit chaos after 1st january
 

Sally71

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But it's panic buying like that which causes shortages!
 
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