OVERCOMING OVEREATING

[Wirrallass]

For those who have an overeating disorder, you might find this book helpful. I've not read it myself but thought I'd draw it to your attention in the hope that it will help those who need it. Overcoming Overeating ~ Conquering Your Obsession with Food is written by Jane Hirschmann and Carol Munter.
It can be purchased from www.amazon.co.uk Paperback £9.99

 

[Sally W]

For those who have a problem with overeating, you might find this book helpful. I've not read it myself but thought I'd draw it to your attention in the hope that it will help those who need it. Overcoming Overeating ~ Conquering Your Obsession with Food is written by Jane Hirschmann and Carol Munter.
It can be purchased from www.amazon.co.uk Paperback £9.99

Thanks for this. I think I’ve got worse because there is more focus on food with diabetes. Constantly checking labels recipes and going to meals, friends etc means I usually take dessert so I can eat it. We all know the psychological aspect doesn’t help. I sometimes think I’d be better just eating what I want but not thinking about food, I’ve put on so much weight since I’ve been diagnosed 😡

 

[Wirrallass]

Thanks for this. I think I’ve got worse because there is more focus on food with diabetes. Constantly checking labels recipes and going to meals, friends etc means I usually take dessert so I can eat it. We all know the psychological aspect doesn’t help. I sometimes think I’d be better just eating what I want but not thinking about food, I’ve put on so much weight since I’ve been diagnosed 😡

Sally hi. I fully understand where you are coming from. I am so engrossed with managing my diabetes that sometimes I forget to follow the rules and I pile on some weight, not a lot but enough for my jeans to tell me they're a bit tight round the waist!! Do you or can you do any exercise to help you lose weight? Walking or cycling would help. I bought a second hand exercise bike and would watch tv while I peddled away for half an hour at a time. I've since given it to charity and intend to buy a folding exercise bike which I'll be able to store under my bed or behind the settee. Its worth considering buy an exercise bike if you don't already have one. I think tho if you concentrate on a diet low in carborhydrates you will notice given time, that you will begin to lose weight.🙂 As a matter of interest did you purchase the book? Chin up, Rome wasn't built in a day so never give up trying. Good luck.
WL

 

[Bloden]

It’s still in print?! 😱🙂

When I had binge-eating disorder I read EVERYTHING to try and get myself off the diet-binge-diet roller coaster. After 10 long years, this is the book that helped me stop and get on with my life.

Well done for recommending it, WL.😛

 

[Sally W]

Sally hi. I fully understand where you are coming from. I am so engrossed with managing my diabetes that sometimes I forget to follow the rules and I pile on some weight, not a lot but enough for my jeans to tell me they're a bit tight round the waist!! Do you or can you do any exercise to help you lose weight? Walking or cycling would help. I bought a second hand exercise bike and would watch tv while I peddled away for half an hour at a time. I've since given it to charity and intend to buy a folding exercise bike which I'll be able to store under my bed or behind the settee. Its worth considering buy an exercise bike if you don't already have one. I think tho if you concentrate on a diet low in carborhydrates you will notice given time, that you will begin to lose weight.🙂 As a matter of interest did you purchase the book? Chin up, Rome wasn't built in a day so never give up trying. Good luck.
WL

It’s still in print?! 😱🙂

When I had binge-eating disorder I read EVERYTHING to try and get myself off the diet-binge-diet roller coaster. After 10 long years, this is the book that helped me stop and get on with my life.

Well done for recommending it, WL.😛

Sally hi. I fully understand where you are coming from. I am so engrossed with managing my diabetes that sometimes I forget to follow the rules and I pile on some weight, not a lot but enough for my jeans to tell me they're a bit tight round the waist!! Do you or can you do any exercise to help you lose weight? Walking or cycling would help. I bought a second hand exercise bike and would watch tv while I peddled away for half an hour at a time. I've since given it to charity and intend to buy a folding exercise bike which I'll be able to store under my bed or behind the settee. Its worth considering buy an exercise bike if you don't already have one. I think tho if you concentrate on a diet low in carborhydrates you will notice given time, that you will begin to lose weight.🙂 As a matter of interest did you purchase the book? Chin up, Rome wasn't built in a day so never give up trying. Good luck.
WL

Yes, I put a lot of weight on when I couldn't walk too well for years. Had op last year and actually love walking so now the snow is out of the way (hopefully) that'll help. Part of the reason I've put more weight on recently is I am self employed and at the end of a long contract I now work from home. I only work 2-3 days a week but those days I do about 400 steps a day! So, I need to work out a schedule of walking before work and an hour after work round the block. Inherited an exercise bike recently but don't like it. Can't work out if it's the bike or maybe should get a fold up walking machine for quick bursts during my lunch break and rainy days. I also, think since doing low carb I crave fat so eat more cheese and nuts but not enough to cause keto: hence fat and some carbs are probably worst combo. Thanks not looked at the book yet as I've just downloaded a free one from book bub. Will report back! Thanks for your suggestions - much appreciated

 

[Ditto]

I've read this one. I've read them all!

Good book.

 

[Wirrallass]

I've read this one. I've read them all!

Good book.

Good to see you posting Ditto🙂 Did the book make an impression on you? I hope so🙂

 

[Ditto]

I always have one diabetes, one dementia and one nutrition/dieting book on the go so it's a few books ago now. I probably knew all the info already, putting it into practise is a different matter.

Just checked my booklist for 2017 on Facebook and I haven't said anything about it for some reason. "Designed to be a comprehensive guide on how to give up dieting and solve overeating problems by legalizing all foods as and when a person chooses."

 

[Wirrallass]

It’s still in print?! 😱🙂

When I had binge-eating disorder I read EVERYTHING to try and get myself off the diet-binge-diet roller coaster. After 10 long years, this is the book that helped me stop and get on with my life.

Well done for recommending it, WL.😛

Thank you Bloden and apparently so. Well done for not giving up the ghost of trying. You're proof of the pudding so to speak and in a position to advocate this book ~ so if you don't mind, more info please to encourage others who are struggling to overcome their habitual overeating🙂
Thanks in advance.
WL

 

[Wirrallass]

View attachment 7535 I always have one diabetes, one dementia and one nutrition/dieting book on the go so it's a few books ago now. I probably knew all the info already, putting it into practise is a different matter.

Just checked my booklist for 2017 on Facebook and I haven't said anything about it for some reason. "Designed to be a comprehensive guide on how to give up dieting and solve overeating problems by legalizing all foods as and when a person chooses."

Putting it into practice is the hardest bit Ditto but sounds like you're well equipped with the perfect solution that sits on your bookshelf🙂 Don't leave it on that shelf for too long will you🙂 Good luck hun🙂

 

[Wirrallass]

Yes, I put a lot of weight on when I couldn't walk too well for years. Had op last year and actually love walking so now the snow is out of the way (hopefully) that'll help. Part of the reason I've put more weight on recently is I am self employed and at the end of a long contract I now work from home. I only work 2-3 days a week but those days I do about 400 steps a day! So, I need to work out a schedule of walking before work and an hour after work round the block. Inherited an exercise bike recently but don't like it. Can't work out if it's the bike or maybe should get a fold up walking machine for quick bursts during my lunch break and rainy days. I also, think since doing low carb I crave fat so eat more cheese and nuts but not enough to cause keto: hence fat and some carbs are probably worst combo. Thanks not looked at the book yet as I've just downloaded a free one from book bub. Will report back! Thanks for your suggestions - much appreciated

These DVD's were recommended to me by another forum member. Walk in the comfort of your home if you should be unable to go out for whatever reason. Deffinitly worth buying Sally if you don't have them already. I bought mine from www.amazon.co.

 

[Bloden]

Thank you Bloden and apparently so. Well done for not giving up the ghost of trying. You're proof of the pudding so to speak and in a position to advocate this book ~ so if you don't mind, more info please to encourage others who are struggling to overcome their habitual overeating🙂
Thanks in advance.
WL

This is a LONG post.🙄

It was a long time ago, WL. I had binge-eating disorder from age 17 to 27 (I’m 51). I couldn’t get a diagnosis cos it didn’t exist back then, LOL, so I walked around with a head full of negative thoughts along the lines of “you’re weak and greedy, you’ve got no willpower” etc etc. What a larf!🙂

The problem was that I had been brought up to be a nice girl and never show any negative emotions, such as anger...so the book showed me that I was basically eating all those negative emotions instead of feeling them (I’ve got a friend who experienced the same thing but used alcohol as a crutch instead of food).

Reading this book was a real turning-point for me. In a nutshell, as well as learning to feel my emotions again (which was tough but achievable), I stuck to what the book recommends at meal-times:

1. All foods are equal (ice-cream = celery = cheese = a burger) - this is to make sure you eat WHAT YOU FANCY not what you think you should eat or what the latest fad diet says you should eat.

2. Only eat when you are physically hungry - if you aren’t hungry you have to ask yourself WHY you want to eat, that is, what uncomfortable emotion is driving you to eat (you need to feel that emotion, not eat it).

3. Eat exactly what you fancy for that meal (see 1.).

4. Stop eating when you are full - it’s OK to leave some uneaten food on your plate (there’s no waste - put it in a tub in the fridge); in fact, the book recommends you do this to show yourself that you can stop when you’re full.

As for binges, the book gives some excellent advice on how to STOP a binge session, which was a real help. My favourite binge food was biscuits. When I was on a binge, I would find I was physically satisfied after 2 or 3 biscuits, but then I’d carry on and end up eating the whole packet. In my mind, I HAD to eat the whole packet because that was the only way to be rid of all the biscuits and STOP the binge (short of throwing the biscuits away).

So (bear with me!), the book gets you to ask yourself, “How many packets of biscuits can you eat during a binge?” My answer was 1 packet. The book says, “Times that number by 3 and buy that many the next time you go shopping”.

The idea is this: I couldn’t possibly eat 3 packets of biscuits in 1 go. So, I would see 2 more packets in the cupboard and register that I couldn’t possibly eat ALL those biscuits in order to STOP my binge. This method helped me to stop the binge session myself (and not let the size of a packet dictate when the binge would stop). This was incredibly empowering!😱😛

Almost forgot, the most important thing: NO MORE DIETS.

Phew!

There IS light at the end of the tunnel - I’m living, non-bingeing proof.

 

[Wirrallass]

This is a LONG post.🙄

It was a long time ago, WL. I had binge-eating disorder from age 17 to 27 (I’m 51). I couldn’t get a diagnosis cos it didn’t exist back then, LOL, so I walked around with a head full of negative thoughts along the lines of “you’re weak and greedy, you’ve got no willpower” etc etc. What a larf!🙂

The problem was that I had been brought up to be a nice girl and never show any negative emotions, such as anger...so the book showed me that I was basically eating all those negative emotions instead of feeling them (I’ve got a friend who experienced the same thing but used alcohol as a crutch instead of food).

Reading this was a real turning-point for me. In a nutshell, as well as learning to feel my emotions again (which was tough but achievable), I stuck to what the book recommends at meal-times:

1. All foods are equal (ice-cream = celery = cheese = a burger) - this is to make sure you eat WHAT YOU FANCY not what you think you should eat or what the latest fad diet says you should eat.

2. Only eat when you are physically hungry - if you aren’t hungry you have to ask yourself WHY you want to eat, that is, what uncomfortable emotion is driving you to eat (you need to feel that emotion, not eat it).

3. Eat exactly what you fancy for that meal (see 1.).

4. Stop eating when you are full - it’s OK to leave some uneaten food on your plate (there’s no waste - put it in a tub in the fridge); in fact, the book recommends you do this to show yourself that you can stop when you’re full.

As for binges, the book gives some excellent advice on how to STOP a binge session, which was a real help. My favourite binge food was biscuits. When I was on a binge, I would find I was physically satisfied after 2 or 3 biscuits, but then I’d carry on and end up eating the whole packet. In my mind, I HAD to eat the whole packet because that was the only way to be rid of all the biscuits and STOP the binge (short of throwing the biscuits away).

So (bear with me!), the book gets you to ask yourself, “How many packets of biscuits can you eat during a binge?” My answer was 1 packet. The book says, “Times that number by 3 and buy that many the next time you go shopping”.

The idea is this: I couldn’t possibly eat 3 packets of biscuits in 1 go. So, I would see 2 more packets in the cupboard and register that I couldn’t possibly eat ALL those biscuits in order to STOP my binge. This method helped me to stop the binge session myself (and not let the size of a packet dictate when the binge would stop). This was incredibly empowering!😱😛

Almost forgot, the most important thing: NO MORE DIETS.

Phew!

There IS light at the end of the tunnel - I’m living, non-bingeing proof.

Yes phew indeed Bloden and thank you so so much. Wow what an amazing story you told of how you overcame your eating disorder ~ very well done you! What I take from this is that you wanted to put your binge eating behind you and actually did something about it🙂That is positive thinking ~ but you never gave up on the idea for ten long years at which time you came across the abovementioned book Conquering Your Obsession with Food. So congratulations Bloden and thank you again for re-living your eating disorder experience with us to explain how you overcame it. It's very much appreciated You have proved that there IS light at the end of the tunnel for those who want to emulate you
WL

 

[HOBIE]

Well written Bloden. Well said. Good on you 😉

 

[Sally W]

This is a LONG post.🙄

It was a long time ago, WL. I had binge-eating disorder from age 17 to 27 (I’m 51). I couldn’t get a diagnosis cos it didn’t exist back then, LOL, so I walked around with a head full of negative thoughts along the lines of “you’re weak and greedy, you’ve got no willpower” etc etc. What a larf!🙂

The problem was that I had been brought up to be a nice girl and never show any negative emotions, such as anger...so the book showed me that I was basically eating all those negative emotions instead of feeling them (I’ve got a friend who experienced the same thing but used alcohol as a crutch instead of food).

Reading this book was a real turning-point for me. In a nutshell, as well as learning to feel my emotions again (which was tough but achievable), I stuck to what the book recommends at meal-times:

1. All foods are equal (ice-cream = celery = cheese = a burger) - this is to make sure you eat WHAT YOU FANCY not what you think you should eat or what the latest fad diet says you should eat.

2. Only eat when you are physically hungry - if you aren’t hungry you have to ask yourself WHY you want to eat, that is, what uncomfortable emotion is driving you to eat (you need to feel that emotion, not eat it).

3. Eat exactly what you fancy for that meal (see 1.).

4. Stop eating when you are full - it’s OK to leave some uneaten food on your plate (there’s no waste - put it in a tub in the fridge); in fact, the book recommends you do this to show yourself that you can stop when you’re full.

As for binges, the book gives some excellent advice on how to STOP a binge session, which was a real help. My favourite binge food was biscuits. When I was on a binge, I would find I was physically satisfied after 2 or 3 biscuits, but then I’d carry on and end up eating the whole packet. In my mind, I HAD to eat the whole packet because that was the only way to be rid of all the biscuits and STOP the binge (short of throwing the biscuits away).

So (bear with me!), the book gets you to ask yourself, “How many packets of biscuits can you eat during a binge?” My answer was 1 packet. The book says, “Times that number by 3 and buy that many the next time you go shopping”.

The idea is this: I couldn’t possibly eat 3 packets of biscuits in 1 go. So, I would see 2 more packets in the cupboard and register that I couldn’t possibly eat ALL those biscuits in order to STOP my binge. This method helped me to stop the binge session myself (and not let the size of a packet dictate when the binge would stop). This was incredibly empowering!😱😛

Almost forgot, the most important thing: NO MORE DIETS.

Phew!

There IS light at the end of the tunnel - I’m living, non-bingeing proof.

@Bloden -sorry I’ve only just seen this post! What a lot of brilliant information. I’m going to write it down. Some I can see straight away is me down to a tee. Firstly, I don’t eat the food I enjoy. My preferred meal is Italian: risottos, pasta I would eat most days and meat once a week. Now I eat meat or fish most days and Italian as a treat once a week. I love carbs but I don’t see how I can enjoy them regularly. Secondly. I eat to cover up loss. I don’t feel it’s right to burden my OH when he comes home each night. So, 2 big reasons right there. It helps to identify why but how I overcome this is the next question. Thank you. You’ve given plenty of food for thought- excuse pun

 

[Vince_UK]

This is a LONG post.🙄

It was a long time ago, WL. I had binge-eating disorder from age 17 to 27 (I’m 51). I couldn’t get a diagnosis cos it didn’t exist back then, LOL, so I walked around with a head full of negative thoughts along the lines of “you’re weak and greedy, you’ve got no willpower” etc etc. What a larf!🙂

The problem was that I had been brought up to be a nice girl and never show any negative emotions, such as anger...so the book showed me that I was basically eating all those negative emotions instead of feeling them (I’ve got a friend who experienced the same thing but used alcohol as a crutch instead of food).

Reading this book was a real turning-point for me. In a nutshell, as well as learning to feel my emotions again (which was tough but achievable), I stuck to what the book recommends at meal-times:

1. All foods are equal (ice-cream = celery = cheese = a burger) - this is to make sure you eat WHAT YOU FANCY not what you think you should eat or what the latest fad diet says you should eat.

2. Only eat when you are physically hungry - if you aren’t hungry you have to ask yourself WHY you want to eat, that is, what uncomfortable emotion is driving you to eat (you need to feel that emotion, not eat it).

3. Eat exactly what you fancy for that meal (see 1.).

4. Stop eating when you are full - it’s OK to leave some uneaten food on your plate (there’s no waste - put it in a tub in the fridge); in fact, the book recommends you do this to show yourself that you can stop when you’re full.

As for binges, the book gives some excellent advice on how to STOP a binge session, which was a real help. My favourite binge food was biscuits. When I was on a binge, I would find I was physically satisfied after 2 or 3 biscuits, but then I’d carry on and end up eating the whole packet. In my mind, I HAD to eat the whole packet because that was the only way to be rid of all the biscuits and STOP the binge (short of throwing the biscuits away).

So (bear with me!), the book gets you to ask yourself, “How many packets of biscuits can you eat during a binge?” My answer was 1 packet. The book says, “Times that number by 3 and buy that many the next time you go shopping”.

The idea is this: I couldn’t possibly eat 3 packets of biscuits in 1 go. So, I would see 2 more packets in the cupboard and register that I couldn’t possibly eat ALL those biscuits in order to STOP my binge. This method helped me to stop the binge session myself (and not let the size of a packet dictate when the binge would stop). This was incredibly empowering!😱😛

Almost forgot, the most important thing: NO MORE DIETS.

Phew!

There IS light at the end of the tunnel - I’m living, non-bingeing proof.

This I really do like and very useful @Bloden. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Ditto]

Bloden that makes empowering reading, cracking post, thank you for sharing.

 

[Carolg]

Thanks for sharing Bloden.

 

[Radders]

I’m really interested in this as I thought I had overcome my binging but have recently started overeating again. I can’t really call it binging, but it has the same pattern and most importantly is causing me to gain weight.
I am puzzled by how to implement the idea that all food is equal when we’re dealing with diabetes though, and the idea of no diet, when we have to watch every bite.
Would you mind sharing your thoughts on this please @Bloden ?

 

[Bloden]

I’m really interested in this as I thought I had overcome my binging but have recently started overeating again. I can’t really call it binging, but it has the same pattern and most importantly is causing me to gain weight.
I am puzzled by how to implement the idea that all food is equal when we’re dealing with diabetes though, and the idea of no diet, when we have to watch every bite.
Would you mind sharing your thoughts on this please @Bloden ?

Hiya Radders.🙂 Good point.

Like I said, this was a long time ago - I read the book and quit my eating disorder at least 15 years before getting Type 1. The only thing I can think of is all foods are equal except for carb, which obviously has a special status for us (as well as ranging from low- to high-GI and therefore NOT being at all equal!🙄).

I sometimes find myself eating my emotions again - after all these years! - and when this happens I try to stick to the general guidelines (nos. 2, 3 and 4) and work out which emotions I’m eating instead of feeling. This seems to work. 🙂 I hope it can work for you.