Oat milk - do you count the carbs?

I use two methods sat for bread I look at carbs and sugars per slice, for other stuff I look at carb and sugars for 100g, I don't and am not interest in exact, life too precious, but I get a rough idea.

The harder part is when I go out, I virtually stick to kebabs with salad and little sauce, some kebabs like chicken tikka are marinated in yogurt, but like I say 'it's needs must'.
 
victorhamesse said:
As it may be a death sentence to the uninformed insulin-using consumer.
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To be fair they have a genuine problem. They're required to present the per 100g values and they want to offer a more practical measure. For biscuits is that per biscuit or per 4 biscuits (if that's what they reasonably anticipate people having)? They can't fit three lots of measures on the packet (not readably) and I can imagine for most people an idea of energy for what they're likely to eat is more useful than per biscuit (which they'd need to multiply up).

Giving nutritional information is surely challenging so I'm sure we'll all be complaining about it for years to come. It's vastly better than it used to be, at least. In many cases infinitely better.
 
victorhamesse said:
I have a postal scale. I spent two weeks measuring a portion of everything I was eating and creating a spreadsheet. %age x weight = meal content. Then I can use this data and +- by eye if different. After a while it become routine. It's only of interest to me not a necessity as I don't use insulin, but it helps to understand my body's reaction to what I eat.
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Ah, well if you don’t use insulin that would be a very different situation 🙂 With Type 1, “carb counting” has the specific meaning of totting up carbs and applying a meal ratio to work out the amount of insulin to have, so carb counting in Type 1 is more than just noting the carbs and is not about limiting them.
 
PhoebeC said:
So I had my usual cereal (Tesco's fruit and fiber) its 26.4g carb, for me that's 2.6 units plus my pump suggested a corrective amount of 1.05 (BG 8.3). Usually this would be fine, I waited about 20ish mins until I ate, again usually this is enough time and I wouldn't get a breakfast spike. An hour later, and I have just had my high alarm at BG 14.7 and going up.

Only difference is I had oat milk, and I didn't even think about the carbs, and I have no idea how much I had, and I added more so likely over 200ml (14g carbs according to carbs & cals). Annoying as I really enjoyed this and now I have a high sugar headache.

Is this my error? Would you carb count?
I don't normally for normal milk, unless in oats. Urgh!
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I find it a little strange that you would bolus for exactly 26g carbs from the Fruit and Fibre and then ignore about 14g carbs from the milk which is approx. another 50% of the carbs in your breakfast. I appreciate that you may have not realised that oat milk is higher carb but I do wonder if this is a downfall of DAFNE encouraging people to ignore some carbs and count others. I don't count anything really precisely but I do estimate carbs from everything including from milk or yoghurt, which is what I have for my breakfast.

Oat milk is much higher carb than the other plant based milks because it is made from a grain rather than nuts or legumes.
 
Bruce Stephens said:
To be fair they have a genuine problem. They're required to present the per 100g values and they want to offer a more practical measure. For biscuits is that per biscuit or per 4 biscuits (if that's what they reasonably anticipate people having)? They can't fit three lots of measures on the packet (not readably) and I can imagine for most people an idea of energy for what they're likely to eat is more useful than per biscuit (which they'd need to multiply up).

Giving nutritional information is surely challenging so I'm sure we'll all be complaining about it for years to come. It's vastly better than it used to be, at least. In many cases infinitely better.
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I prefer per biscuit in your example, as I can then multiply up to an appropriate amount of biscuits for me 🙂 I find the most annoying thing is seeing the carbs per 100g then having to search all over the brownie/whatever to find it’s actual weight so I can do the Maths.
 
Newbie777 said:
Hello there are two types of oat milk, the unsweetened is best for diabetics, I would still advise to check the labels though. I don't count the carbs or calories, I use it for cereal now and then but always for tea everyday.

I also try coconut and almond, but soya, yuk don't like the taste.
In the future will go for cows milk, full fat, but only if can keep my BG stable as like the idea of simple organic stuff, not really happy with all the stuff they put in these alternative milks, but as they say 'needs must'
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I put Alpro "Light" soya milk on my muesli: it's fat-free and carb-free. It's just about taste-free, too, which is fine by me, given that I still have flashbacks of sour school milk 😱.

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rebrascora said:
I find it a little strange that you would bolus for exactly 26g carbs from the Fruit and Fibre and then ignore about 14g carbs from the milk which is approx. another 50% of the carbs in your breakfast. I appreciate that you may have not realised that oat milk is higher carb but I do wonder if this is a downfall of DAFNE encouraging people to ignore some carbs and count others. I don't count anything really precisely but I do estimate carbs from everything including from milk or yoghurt, which is what I have for my breakfast.

Oat milk is much higher carb than the other plant based milks because it is made from a grain rather than nuts or legumes.
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If DAFNE is encouraging people to ignore milk carbs (apart from dashes in tea) then that’s stupid. When I was taught carb-counting, it was made very clear that you counted the carbs in milk as well as the carbs in your cereal.

As you say, some of the issue might be people assuming plant milks are very low carb when, in fact, they can vary quite a bit, depending on what they’re made from, how they’re sweetened, and the brand.
 
Inka said:
I prefer per biscuit in your example, as I can then multiply up to an appropriate amount of biscuits for me 🙂 I find the most annoying thing is seeing the carbs per 100g then having to search all over the brownie/whatever to find it’s actual weight so I can do the Maths.
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That's why I always defer to the Waitrose site as the %age is almost always listed.
 
helli said:
If we are complaining about carbs per portion, can I propose an appropriate sentence on the person who puts the carbs on rice and pasta packets “when cooked”?
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Hanging's too good for 'em!!!
I mean, i'm not going to cook my rice, weight it, do the calculations, inject, wait 15 min, then eat the roce, am I?
 
Inka said:
I prefer per biscuit in your example, as I can then multiply up to an appropriate amount of biscuits for me 🙂 I find the most annoying thing is seeing the carbs per 100g then having to search all over the brownie/whatever to find it’s actual weight so I can do the Maths.
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Even more-so when it’s an individually wrapped portion of a thing with the per 100g info, and sometimes even a traffic light gubbins, but literally nowhere on the packet is the weight of it. Absolutely infuriating!
 
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Newbie777 said:
Hello there are two types of oat milk, the unsweetened is best for diabetics, I would still advise to check the labels though. I don't count the carbs or calories, I use it for cereal now and then but always for tea everyday.

I also try coconut and almond, but soya, yuk don't like the taste.
In the future will go for cows milk, full fat, but only if can keep my BG stable as like the idea of simple organic stuff, not really happy with all the stuff they put in these alternative milks, but as they say 'needs must'
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From the milkman so no label. Part of the joy of it, old glass bottles
 
I’ve not had DAFNE training, yet, in all this time.
I start on 18th Nov actually. So I’ve not been taught anything, I’ve only learnt off me, life and you lot.

I never carb count milk for cereal really as I don’t have that much. Maybe this is how I went wrong, I added more.
I do count in porridge, but porridge is its own beast.

Tesco grocery website and app have carbs per 100 and normally per portion too. I find that very handy.
 
PhoebeC said:
I’ve not had DAFNE training, yet, in all this time.
I start on 18th Nov actually. So I’ve not been taught anything, I’ve only learnt off me, life and you lot.

I never carb count milk for cereal really as I don’t have that much. Maybe this is how I went wrong, I added more.
I do count in porridge, but porridge is its own beast.

Tesco grocery website and app have carbs per 100 and normally per portion too. I find that very handy.
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Tesco and sainsbo are great. M&S especially the bakery, are very poor at giving any sort of carb count...i did find a spreadsheet online with their stuff but lots us missing
 
I have tried Sainsburys and they make their own sourdough, but could not tell me about the carbs.

I don't count carbs, but use a rough idea and on most days it's fine.
 
PhoebeC said:
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From the milkman so no label. Part of the joy of it, old glass bottles
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Brilliant, , but watch out for the magpies, they love the gold and silver tops!
 
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