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Hungry

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Hi. Thank you for allowing me to join this group, I do however wish I wasn’t qualified! I’ve recently been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and coming to terms with what that means? I have to be honest and admit I’m both frustrated and a little upset about how this will impact my life and lifestyle? Not having the freedom to eat what I want and have choices. Apologies and forgive me if this post sounds negative but I’m feeling that way at the moment!
 
Hi @Hungry, welcome to the forum, sorry to hear that you're frustrated and upset. I didn't want to join the diabetes club either. I found out I was T2 a few months ago and it was a fair bit to take in. What got me through the first few weeks was reading up on diabetes and making a plan. I decided I needed to tackle my diet and cut down drastically on portion size so I can lose weight.
What are you struggling with most at the moment? Food choices, or something else?
Are you on medication or diet maintained? Are you getting support from your GP/ nurse?
 
Hi Windy. Thank you for your response. Guess I’m struggling just coming to terms with having to consider and assess everything I eat and drink. I’m taking 1000 mg Metformin a day and diet control. I’m not particularly overweight, don’t smoke and exercise. I had 45 minutes with the diabetic nurse who was quite good tbf…it’s just a shock I suppose!
 
Good to hear that the diabetic nurse was good. Some of the reason for being diabetic is genetic, and you can't do anything about that, but you can, as you say address diet.
I would say, start slow and look at what you like to eat, and see if you can change a thing or two in some of your meals to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you're eating. It's the carbs that'll put your blood glucose up, if you reduce some of that, it'll make a difference, but you don't need to do it all at once. The metformin will make some difference, but it's not a magic bullet, sadly.
So maybe look at a meal and think what you can change, so swap cornflakes or toast for omelette with bacon and mushrooms (if you eat these). Or instead of a sandwich at lunch, have a bowl of soup and an apple. Or make lower carb bread, and slice that and put it in the freezer and have it instead of regular bread. There's a video on youtube called something like: Diedre's low carb bread which looks a good recipe.
It's easier if you also buy a blood glucose monitor, and you can see what each meal does to your BG, by testing before and 2 hours after each meal, but you don't need to do that on day one.
I can recommend buying a copy of Carbs and cals, so you can see what each food has in it.
I know it's a bit restrictive compared to what you had before, but you can do something about the path that your diabetes takes, if you keep your blood glucose controlled, you may be able to reduce the medication, and minimise the risk of any complications.
Ask away with any questions you have. I've found this a lovely community, really helpful.
It does get easier, honestly, regards, Sarah
 
Greatly appreciated. I’ll have a look at low carb bread recipe, and replacing cornflakes with an omelette and bacon actually sounds pretty good. I just need time for it to register and get my head around what I can and can’t eat. Ive seen the blood/glucose monitors on here but wasn’t sure if they’re useful? What’s the thoughts around cheese?
 
Greatly appreciated. I’ll have a look at low carb bread recipe, and replacing cornflakes with an omelette and bacon actually sounds pretty good. I just need time for it to register and get my head around what I can and can’t eat. Ive seen the blood/glucose monitors on here but wasn’t sure if they’re useful? What’s the thoughts around cheese?
I would say a blood glucose monitor is key to allowing you to manage your diabetes it provides all the information you need about what foods you can tolerate. As everybody id different in what they can tolerate nobody can tell you what you can and can't eat.
Cheese is good, virtually zero carb and makes a good addition to meals for taste and help stave off hunger if had as a snack rather than high carb crisps.
Broccoli and stilton and courgette and brie make good combinations for soup.
 
The mental side of diabetes isn't something that the NHS really covers. It's a shock to most people, and unless they know someone who's diabetic, there's little to no support (the forum helps!), especially in the early days, when you have questions. It runs in my family, but I couldn't tell anyone for a week, and felt blank and a bit robotic whilst I was processing the diagnosis.
I love cheese, but I suspect that's not your question! Cheese is zero carbs, but it's also quite calorific and high in fat. I buy the most mature cheddar I can, so when I make cheese and mushroom omelette in the morning, the cheese I put in it gives the most "punch" to my food. I try not to eat loads of it as I'm trying to lose weight.
I can recommend Stilton and broccoli soup (BBC food have a good recipe) as a nice cheesy soup. Nuts are also zero carb, and I think, meat, fish and chicken are low carb, unless they've got batter/breadcrumbs on.
I bought myself a gluconavii BG monitor on the recommendation of other people here. I use it to find out what particular foods do to my BG. It's different for each diabetic, some people can eat porridge and bread, no problems, others get a BG spike. I only test each food once, so I know that porridge isn't good for me, but a couple of Nairn's cheese oatcakes with cheese spread are ok.
 
Diabetes has had no effect on my life and lifestyle that I can think of other than no longer having to pander to the way of eating my GP thought I should be following 'for my health' - which was making me feel extremely lethargic and I was putting on weight because I can't cope with carbohydrates.
These days I have meat, fish, seafood, cream in my coffee, and a wide variety of low carb veges, mushrooms and berries. I have various cheeses with low carb home made crackers, sugar fee fizzy drinks or squash, nuts, high cocoa chocolate. For flavour I use herbs and spices and oils also food flavouring and colours.
Not only had it reversed my diabetes but my need for thyroid medication, Thyroxine, is reducing.
 
Having adopted a low carb regime I find I am eating what I enjoy eating with plenty of variety and tasty meals. There is nothing I can honestly say I miss not having.
What hasn't really been put to the test is eating out as I haven't actually been anywhere very often. The occasions when I have, I choose a Caesar salad which was very substantial and I certainly haven't felt I have been missing out on anything.
 
Thank you all for your messages and support. I think I need to get a grip and try and understand what this means for me. A blood sugar monitor is next along along with a copy of ‘carbs and cals’ and hopefully a better appreciation of what I can and can’t eat. Oh well it’s here to stay so best get on with it!
 
Hi Hungry, there's been research work at Newcastle and Glasgow universities, funded by Diabetes UK, which showed that some T2s can get diabetes remission if they lose enough weight to put them under the point that their body stopped coping with carbs properly.
The article explains it much better than me, but the hypothesis is that if you're genetically prone to T2 diabetes, if you gain weight beyond a certain point, particularly if you carry weight on your belly and round your internal organs, there's a tipping point where diabetes starts. The point where T2 kicks in differs from person to person, you can get thin T2s and less thin ones (like me), but the study found about 50% of the participants were able to reverse their diabetes, and it was related to if they lost 15kg, or 10-15% of their body weight.
There's a book by Professor Roy Taylor (he donated the proceeds of his book to Diabetes UK, so he's not making any money out of it) which covers his research, which encouraged me to go on a diet for the last couple of months. I know it might not work, but it's given me hope that I might be able to either get remission, or at least keep my BG under control and lose some weight.
So, whilst there are no promises, it might not be here to stay. I know we've overloaded you with information, and this is a bit more, but it helped my head to know that I could do something about my diabetes, and whilst there's no guarantees, I'd rather chase that chance than not.
Best wishes, Sarah
 
Thanks again Sarah. So much to consider…I was going to say ‘digest’ but probably not the best adjective or is it a verb anywho…so good to chat to people who understand
 
Hi, Hungry, I am thinking you choose that name as it is how I feel all the time hungry. I am obsessed with food and think maybe there is a link to diabetes and how hungry one can feel. There are masses out there but I am not good at sticking to low carb and also all the fat things in it like cream and cheese do not help cholesterol etc. I think if I was starting and indeed I am starting again having seen my diabetic nurse, I will start a new plan and see if I can tweak what I need to so I can cope and succeed. I am thinking perhaps look at what is liked and good and not think so much about what I cannot have,
 
You can do it @Nayshiftin. You've got your HbA1c down already, so you've proven you can succeed.

I was hungry/comfort eating all the time, and snacked comprehensively. Getting the T2 diagnosis snapped something in my mind, and I'm determined to lose weight now, whereas I had no motivation before, and the lure of crisps and kitkats were strong. You can do it.
Sarah
 
You can do it @Nayshiftin. You've got your HbA1c down already, so you've proven you can succeed.

I was hungry/comfort eating all the time, and snacked comprehensively. Getting the T2 diagnosis snapped something in my mind, and I'm determined to lose weight now, whereas I had no motivation before, and the lure of crisps and kitkats were strong. You can do it.
Sarah
I can’t . Fact . I am a notorious yo yo and sometimes I do really well but crisps are my downfall. We’ve ordered fish n chips tonight and you know what I’ll not be able to say no . I have no will power. Tried ever diet to try and always end up stressed. I don’t smoke n drink . I am faithful to hubby but I have been told you’ll have a heart attack . Depression is my biggest problem. See I don’t care to die but have to try shock myself. Someone else had said new start so I’ll try. However I know I’ll see others succeed. I made it to the monthly chat and sat with the group and then felt how could I . No doubt they supported me but I look snd Xmas so fat… I’m old who cares. Need to laugh more . Then it’s no joke but I have little hope to succeed . Sorry
 
I think I must have a peculiar metabolism because I never actually feel hungry, I'm not sure I know what it feels like. As a small child they were worried that I wouldn't eat anything and I was thin but suddenly started to put on weight and was actually overweight by the time I was 11, We rarely had meat as my father was vegetarian. You could say ever since I have struggled with being considered overweight. The best I ever did was slimming world after I has my children but was still a stone over what they considered to be my target. Now that is 50 years ago and I have struggled ever since.
I was busy with a long working day so never snacked and sometimes missed lunch and had an active job plus gardening and walking but it was and is a challenge to lose weight.
I tried all sorts of 'diets' Slimming world, Cambridge diet, slimfast but never found the meals attractive.
I have found my current dietary regime is one I enjoy and feel is now for life.
My message is you have to find something you enjoy as well as being good for weight loss and maintaining good blood glucose management.
My parents both passed away when I was a teenager, my father was diabetic and had a heart attack at 48 and my mother had a stroke and I am sad that my children never knew their grandparents and it is that thought that motivates me to get a grip now.
 
I think I must have a peculiar metabolism because I never actually feel hungry, I'm not sure I know what it feels like. As a small child they were worried that I wouldn't eat anything and I was thin but suddenly started to put on weight and was actually overweight by the time I was 11, We rarely had meat as my father was vegetarian. You could say ever since I have struggled with being considered overweight. The best I ever did was slimming world after I has my children but was still a stone over what they considered to be my target. Now that is 50 years ago and I have struggled ever since.
I was busy with a long working day so never snacked and sometimes missed lunch and had an active job plus gardening and walking but it was and is a challenge to lose weight.
I tried all sorts of 'diets' Slimming world, Cambridge diet, slimfast but never found the meals attractive.
I have found my current dietary regime is one I enjoy and feel is now for life.
My message is you have to find something you enjoy as well as being good for weight loss and maintaining good blood glucose management.
My parents both passed away when I was a teenager, my father was diabetic and had a heart attack at 48 and my mother had a stroke and I am sad that my children never knew their grandparents and it is that thought that motivates me to get a grip now.
Well done for getting a grip or to grips with everything. I think if it was a+b = c I may cope. For example I wake up not too bad reading 8.6 below ten is my aim so that’s good that was when I woke up . Immediately before I eat porridge it’s gone up to 10.5 . Not so good after all. Then 2 hrs I set the alarm it goes to a lovely 7.2 . Aim is to just have drinks to lunchtime. Why does it go down when you eat and up when you fast. ?
 
Hi, Hungry, I am thinking you choose that name as it is how I feel all the time hungry. I am obsessed with food and think maybe there is a link to diabetes and how hungry one can feel. There are masses out there but I am not good at sticking to low carb and also all the fat things in it like cream and cheese do not help cholesterol etc. I think if I was starting and indeed I am starting again having seen my diabetic nurse, I will start a new plan and see if I can tweak what I need to so I can cope and succeed. I am thinking perhaps look at what is liked and good and not think so much about what I cannot have,
Hi dude. Thank you, I love food too and generally eat quite healthily but it’s the bad things I love the most..bread, sausage rolls, pork pie, cheese etc. I and going to try and be good and consistent but I’m thinking the occasional treat will be ok??
 
Hi dude. Thank you, I love food too and generally eat quite healthily but it’s the bad things I love the most..bread, sausage rolls, pork pie, cheese etc. I and going to try and be good and consistent but I’m thinking the occasional treat will be ok??
That depends on you.
I was morbidly obese.
I decided I didn't want a diet that restricted my lifestyle, so I looked at the Newcastle diet, lost 5st on a mixture of low fat and the 800 calorie diet, so I could go back to eating normally if it worked.
Fortunately it did.
I do eat a healthy Mediterranean style diet normally, but also pizza, pies, Gregg's, and other convenience foods.
All I do is watch my weight.
Having said that, I know the last year in lockdown meant no gym, too many box sets on Netflix, too many snacks, then Christmas.......
So now the new year resolution is back on the diet shakes, and no alcohol.
So I'm not a yo yo dieter as such, just relaxed over what I know I can do, and know how diabetes could affect me if I let it back in, so I know when to stop the bad foods if I can't exercise.
 
It goes up when you fast, because your brain (being clever!) recognises that your cells require glucose to function and hence releases glucose that it has previously stashed away in your liver, and releases some of that into your blood cells to enable the cells to function. Had you actually broken your fast by eating something, it would not have done that. Try not eating something as full of carb as porridge for your brekkie - eg protein like bacon or egg or cheese.
 
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