Karate Gi rips off sensor

[mitchsi]

Hi,

So 1st training session back last night and my heavy weight Gi ripped my sensor off. Has anyone here got experience in martial arts facing this issue or any other sport where there are fast arm movements that could catch the sensor on clothing?
I’ve bought this to try:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B08MXKV9M1?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image

I used a type one style patch plus a thin sticky patch over that and also skin tac for the application.
I think the sensor was too close to the arm seem so I’ll look to position it a bit further away but body movements are pretty dynamic in this sport and I can’t replace a sensor twice a week. I’m now not using a sensor for 24hrs as I have another session tonight. So flying solo and only diagnosed last month which will be interesting.

Any recommendations would be highly appreciated,

 

[helli]

I have no experience of either but wanted to comment that it is not uncommon to wear the LIbre elsewhere on your body.
It is only approved to be worn on the arm but you may find it worth experimenting on other places such as chest or abdomen. I have no seen anyone complaining about the accuracy in these locations.

 

[Pumper_Sue]

Put some padding over the sensor then some tubi grip and tape it on. Henry Slade one of the the England rugby stars manages ok.

 

[mitchsi]

I have no experience of either but wanted to comment that it is not uncommon to wear the LIbre elsewhere on your body.
It is only approved to be worn on the arm but you may find it worth experimenting on other places such as chest or abdomen. I have no seen anyone complaining about the accuracy in these locations.

Good idea, I have been wondering where else is suitable, abdomen is out and torso really as it’s often a contact sport, the back of the arm did seem an area that would not be contacted as much.
I’ll have to research that.

 

[mitchsi]

Put some padding over the sensor then some tubi grip and tape it on. Henry Slade one of the the England rugby stars manages ok.

I’ll take a look at that, looking to pro’s is a good idea especially those in contact sports.
It’s also entirely likely that he can afford to remove and replace quite frequently.

 

[rebrascora]

Vetwrap or other cohesive bandage would be my suggestion.

 

[mitchsi]

I’ve looked around and I’d say the rear upper arm is still the best location.
Henry slide seems to wear it in his arm but again probably an area of least impact.

Still interested ito hear from anyone whose had this issue.

New upper arm brace comes tomorrow, it will at least be easier to put in place and is Reuseable, hopefully it works out well.

 

[Pumper_Sue]

I’ll take a look at that, looking to pro’s is a good idea especially those in contact sports.
It’s also entirely likely that he can afford to remove and replace quite frequently.

Protecting the sensor is quite easier I used to man handle cattle on a regular bases and never had a problem with a sensor coming off. I have the Dexcom G7 at the moment and only problem I have with it is getting thing off at the end of it's 10 days it's very flat so even a padded large plaster would be fine even for Karate.

 

[Inka]

Off the wall idea @mitchsi but could you wear a lighter Gi? Or somehow modify it so it didn’t catch your sensor?

 

[helli]

Vetwrap or other cohesive bandage would be my suggestion.

My experience of VetRap is that does not hold as well as the old fashioned crepe bandage and safety pin.
Your elasticated band may be better.

 

[helli]

I’ve looked around and I’d say the rear upper arm is still the best location.

I always wear my sensor as high up my arm and as far back as possible.
It is pretty much in line with my arm pit.
This works for me because I am too vain and don't want to show it off. It suits my sports but they are all non-contact.

 

[mitchsi]

Protecting the sensor is quite easier I used to man handle cattle on a regular bases and never had a problem with a sensor coming off. I have the Dexcom G7 at the moment and only problem I have with it is getting thing off at the end of it's 10 days it's very flat so even a padded large plaster would be fine even for Karate.

No a plaster will definitely not cut it, I wrote above how I protected it and it came off quite easy. Actually I find the libre2 can come off quite easy or it can take a beating, so far no in between !
Thanks for the reply

 

[mitchsi]

Off the wall idea @mitchsi but could you wear a lighter Gi? Or somehow modify it so it didn’t catch your sensor?

Not off the wall at all and you’re right I could but I like the heavier weight, bit vain but that’s the truth, it sounds and looks better but if it comes down to it I would.

 

[mitchsi]

I always wear my sensor as high up my arm and as far back as possible.
It is pretty much in line with my arm pit.
This works for me because I am too vain and don't want to show it off. It suits my sports but they are all non-contact.

I did the exact same thing for the same reason @helli and tried to put it higher, now summer has fast left us it won’t be such an issue and I’ll try to put it out the way of any sleeve seems.
I’m going to have to experiment a bit until I get this right I think. Just can’t afford to keep ripping these sensors off.
Thanks

 

[SimonP]

No experience, but I am interested in how you get on - I'd paused martial arts training (kids, work, tiredness/laziness) by the time I got a libre, but I would quite like to get back to it now I have more time (older children who sleep do help!), but I also fear losing the sensors. Aikido in my case, and there are lots of shoulder and lapel grabs along with break-falling, which I don't think will be great unless I relocate my libre.

 

[mitchsi]

No experience, but I am interested in how you get on - I'd paused martial arts training (kids, work, tiredness/laziness) by the time I got a libre, but I would quite like to get back to it now I have more time (older children who sleep do help!), but I also fear losing the sensors. Aikido in my case, and there are lots of shoulder and lapel grabs along with break-falling, which I don't think will be great unless I relocate my libre.

Ha yeah I know that with younger kids, mines 13 and comes with me which is great.
We have arm locks and throws in the syllabus but nothing like aikido but you don’t have strikes or am I wrong? Would having it on the abdomen be suitable or chest?
I’ll be back at it Thursday, so sure I’ll let u know how this protection works.

 

[SimonP]

Ha yeah I know that with younger kids, mines 13 and comes with me which is great.
We have arm locks and throws in the syllabus but nothing like aikido but you don’t have strikes or am I wrong? Would having it on the abdomen be suitable or chest?
I’ll be back at it Thursday, so sure I’ll let u know how this protection works.

I practised a form that was very old school (my words) which contained quite a lot of Jujitsu and Judo techniques (which amongst other things were the roots of Aikido, before it "evolved" and narrowed focus into sometimes less martial forms), which means a fair share of grappling and arm locks, etc.

There is striking in terms of atemi (for those reading who don't practice martial arts, that is distraction strikes before applying a different technique) and also techniques start from a strike or blow, often to the head/neck, but also to the torso and kidney area, so getting it wrong might expose a sensor there (though significantly less so than the Karate randori fighting I've seen.)

I think the majority of the chest is out due to the techniques that start from shoulder and especially lapel grabs - previously having had a hairy chest (pre-alopecia) this could be a painful problem! Even elsewhere on the torso would also be tricky, many throws require very close hip to hip contact which often involves the side of your torso (depending on whether you're applying or receiving the technique), so even if the sensor weren't directly in the way, your gi would likely be stretched over it, which isn't ideal as you mentioned in your first post.

It's a tricky one, had there been an easy answer I'd have given it a go already. The best solution would be one of the wrist based non-intrusive devices that a number of companies (including Apple) have been working on (and lots of companies selling online are now pretending they have a working version they will sell you for not much money.) Fingers crossed something that works comes to market in the not too distant future.

I suppose I could mount a libre like Ironman does, front and centre, which might work as you tend to defend the solar plexus at all costs, however it's not the fleshiest bit!

I look forward to hearing how you get on, enjoy 🙂

 

[mitchsi]

I practised a form that was very old school (my words) which contained quite a lot of Jujitsu and Judo techniques (which amongst other things were the roots of Aikido, before it "evolved" and narrowed focus into sometimes less martial forms), which means a fair share of grappling and arm locks, etc.

There is striking in terms of atemi (for those reading who don't practice martial arts, that is distraction strikes before applying a different technique) and also techniques start from a strike or blow, often to the head/neck, but also to the torso and kidney area, so getting it wrong might expose a sensor there (though significantly less so than the Karate randori fighting I've seen.)

I think the majority of the chest is out due to the techniques that start from shoulder and especially lapel grabs - previously having had a hairy chest (pre-alopecia) this could be a painful problem! Even elsewhere on the torso would also be tricky, many throws require very close hip to hip contact which often involves the side of your torso (depending on whether you're applying or receiving the technique), so even if the sensor weren't directly in the way, your gi would likely be stretched over it, which isn't ideal as you mentioned in your first post.

It's a tricky one, had there been an easy answer I'd have given it a go already. The best solution would be one of the wrist based non-intrusive devices that a number of companies (including Apple) have been working on (and lots of companies selling online are now pretending they have a working version they will sell you for not much money.) Fingers crossed something that works comes to market in the not too distant future.

I suppose I could mount a libre like Ironman does, front and centre, which might work as you tend to defend the solar plexus at all costs, however it's not the fleshiest bit!

I look forward to hearing how you get on, enjoy 🙂

Yeah they’re both not easy sports to place a sensor, I’m also thinking of putting a band on the Gi where the sensor is as a visual aid to my fellow practitioners.
I’ll certainly come back to thread - I’m going to have to find a solution as I’m not stopping - been doing it too long, the arm band may work for you but the center abdomen may better - I really don’t know.
Fortunately I went back to class when there were only 3 days left on my sensor, so you could take risks to start class at the end of the sensors life.

 

[SimonP]

Fortunately I went back to class when there were only 3 days left on my sensor, so you could take risks to start class at the end of the sensors life.

I was thinking that might be an option, though I don't know whether going once a fortnight is going to be enough to get me back into the swing of it/will frustrate me that I don't want to risk a new sensor but do want to go and train.

 

[Inka]

Yeah they’re both not easy sports to place a sensor, I’m also thinking of putting a band on the Gi where the sensor is as a visual aid to my fellow practitioners.
I’ll certainly come back to thread - I’m going to have to find a solution as I’m not stopping - been doing it too long, the arm band may work for you but the center abdomen may better - I really don’t know.
Fortunately I went back to class when there were only 3 days left on my sensor, so you could take risks to start class at the end of the sensors life.

I think a band is a good idea, like if someone had a healing injury or scar and wanted people to avoid that particular area. I know it’s a nuisance but even if a holder held the Libre on, it might be pushed or twisted in situ messing up its operation or accuracy.