Intolerance to bread

[grovesy]

Wheni had one donover 20 years ago at the hospital lab, you were not even allowed to leave the waiting area,

 

[Sharron1]

I love that: 'they were right'

No, they never said that. It was my daughter and I that are postulating that. No idea how to prove it though.

As someone here said, once diagnosed as a diabetic then that stays with you.

So, anyone any idea how to prove that someone is not diabetic?

Good luck with that. My Diabetes nurse is of the opinion that I am not diabetic and never was, for reasons I won't bore the world with again. However the diabetes expert of the surgery, won't hear a word of this. I have given up trying to have any conversation around this. It's pointless.

 

[Gwynn]

Ok thanks, I will sit still

 

[Gwynn]

Ok will do

 

[Gwynn]

Ok, good morning. Test is now under way, in fact just about 1 hour in. I am sitting still on the sofa throughout the test too. Thanks for all the advice.

75g glucose in 300ml water. Disgustingly sweet.
BG at the start was 4.8


I agree that nothing I do can 'predict' or correct the thinking regarding historical events. Besides I was showing pretty much every possible diabetic symptom at diagnosis. So, at that point I was diabetic.

Just noticed that my pulse is very slightly raised. Could be normal variation though. BP is steady and normal. Temp ok. Nothing to worry about.

 

[rebrascora]

Are you testing BG frequently throughout the test? Just testing after 2 hours won't tell you much.

 

[Gwynn]

No I decided that this time I will just check before and after. Too much stress already (wife is very ill and is freaking me out. She had a very bad day yesterday, sadly. Seriously bad).

If I repeat the test sometime then I will check BG at 30 minute intervals. If I fail the test then I may not retest as there may be little point in doing so.

This morning may not tell me much but it will give me an indication which is all I want for now.

 

[Lucyr]

I’m sure the test results will be interesting. For me, even if my diabetes resolved itself I’d be happy to keep as diabetic on my medical notes, since that would get me a yearly hba1c and cholesterl, liver, eye and foot checks to make sure the time that I did have diabetes hadn’t caused any damage further down the line, and that the diabetes had returned. I’d probably just start only attending the tests I thought relevant each year though and checking the results online, only making an appointment to discuss if I was concerned about them.

That’s just my preference though, if you’d prefer to stop the annual reviews and remove diabetes from your current diagnosis, maybe just do your own tests if ever you feel symptoms returning.

 

[Gwynn]

Ok the results are in.

At test start BG 4.8
At 2hrs BG 7.0 (normal)
At 2.5 Hrs BG 6.6 (going in the right direction)

Pulse and BP raised a little probably due to anxiety over the possible result.

I am not trying to get my diagnosis changed and I agree that the annual checks can only be helpful as I get older. I just needed to know.

Oh, and I am not going to change my diet or exercise. I like being healthier and fitter. 🙂

 

[AndBreathe]

I’m sure the test results will be interesting. For me, even if my diabetes resolved itself I’d be happy to keep as diabetic on my medical notes, since that would get me a yearly hba1c and cholesterl, liver, eye and foot checks to make sure the time that I did have diabetes hadn’t caused any damage further down the line, and that the diabetes had returned. I’d probably just start only attending the tests I thought relevant each year though and checking the results online, only making an appointment to discuss if I was concerned about them.

That’s just my preference though, if you’d prefer to stop the annual reviews and remove diabetes from your current diagnosis, maybe just do your own tests if ever you feel symptoms returning.

Lucy - even if your records are noted as in remission or such like, you will always have eye checks - they are for life, no matter what.

A1cs should still be annual, as you would remain in the "At Risk of Diabetes" category.

I don't have my feet checked, but then nothing different to when I was classified as a T2 (as opposed to Resolved). When my annual bloods are done, it's a general panel, including Us & Es, lipids, liver and so on. It's a very cheap panel.

I have regular, focused bloods done for thyroid function, as my treatment is still being titrated. If I have concerns about anything, my GP is usually content enough to throw a cheap blood panel in, jut to be safe.

It's your choice (sometimes!), but nothing to be worried about.

 

[Christy]

Ok the results are in.

At test start BG 4.8
At 2hrs BG 7.0 (normal)
At 2.5 Hrs BG 6.6 (going in the right direction)

Pulse and BP raised a little probably due to anxiety over the possible result.

I am not trying to get my diagnosis changed and I agree that the annual checks can only be helpful as I get older. I just needed to know.

Oh, and I am not going to change my diet or exercise. I like being healthier and fitter. 🙂

Hi @Gwynn I've been following this with interest. So what do you deduce from this? I like being fitter and healthier too wish I'd done it years ago but no point on dwelling on the past.

 

[Gwynn]

I deduce that from this test and over 500 food BG tests, and all the fasting and evening BG tests, where not one single BG test was above 6.3, that although I was definitely 'diabetic' at diagnosis, but that it may have been caused by my pancreas shutting down, possibly due to an iron overload, carb overload, lousy diet, and being above my personal fat threshold.

However, I have lost considerable weight, control my carb intake and I now think that the original problem was probably reverible and therefor temporary as long as I took the right steps.

However, as I am not a trained medical expert, I recognise that I could be wrong and may have misinterpreted things.

Key for me has been coming off the meds, reducing carb intake, getting my weight down, and increasing my daily exercise. Not sure if it was one of those things or a combination of all of them. I suspect it was all of them.

I went for 115 minute walk in windy conditions this morning. At diagnosis I couldn't even climb the stairs !

Any thoughts or feedback?

 

[Christy]

I deduce that from this test and over 500 food BG tests, and all the fasting and evening BG tests, where not one single BG test was above 6.3, that although I was definitely 'diabetic' at diagnosis, but that it may have been caused by my pancreas shutting down, possibly due to an iron overload, carb overload, lousy diet, and being above my personal fat threshold.

However, I have lost considerable weight, control my carb intake and I now think that the original problem was probably reverible and therefor temporary as long as I took the right steps.

However, as I am not a trained medical expert, I recognise that I could be wrong and may have misinterpreted things.

Key for me has been coming off the meds, reducing carb intake, getting my weight down, and increasing my daily exercise. Not sure if it was one of those things or a combination of all of them. I suspect it was all of them.

I went for 115 minute walk in windy conditions this morning. At diagnosis I couldn't even climb the stairs !

Any thoughts or feedback?

No medical training either. It could have been any/none of the above but I love your attitude. Whatever it was you've turned it around and that's going to benefit you for ever as it sounds like these are permanent changes. Hopefully you feel mentally in a good place too? You're an inspiration.

 

[Gwynn]

Yup thanks I feel absolutely fine. My thinking is clearer too. I honestly cannot think of a single negative regarding my experience in all this. Even my stay at hospital wasn't too bad. A bit disappointing that's all.

And you know, my success in this is actually down to all the people here on this form. The guidance, advice, corrections, support and help have been instrumental in helping me to work out what to do and what not to do.

So thank you everyone.

I will continue on this forum if that is ok. I never ever want to drift back to where I was.

 

[Docb]

Replied to your other thread @Gwynn. Stick with the forum and share your story with newbies wondering what this diabetes thing is all about. Your route could well work for others if they know about it!

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I deduce that from this test and over 500 food BG tests, and all the fasting and evening BG tests, where not one single BG test was above 6.3, that although I was definitely 'diabetic' at diagnosis, but that it may have been caused by my pancreas shutting down, possibly due to an iron overload, carb overload, lousy diet, and being above my personal fat threshold.

However, I have lost considerable weight, control my carb intake and I now think that the original problem was probably reverible and therefor temporary as long as I took the right steps.

However, as I am not a trained medical expert, I recognise that I could be wrong and may have misinterpreted things.

Key for me has been coming off the meds, reducing carb intake, getting my weight down, and increasing my daily exercise. Not sure if it was one of those things or a combination of all of them. I suspect it was all of them.

I went for 115 minute walk in windy conditions this morning. At diagnosis I couldn't even climb the stairs !

Any thoughts or feedback?

I didn't focus at all on carbs, but it was definitely weight, and exercise that cured me.
I agree with you on the stairs as well.

However, I did prefer to say classed as diabetic, to me, it wasn't a stigma that I needed removing, it had no disadvantages, Even my annual global travel insurance simply note it, and don't charge any more.
Extras are charged at the normal rate.
I can still get the annual check-ups on the NHS, and I can request any other tests whenever I want to as they know I am very active in pursuing staying on top of it.
I do pay for an annual private check up for scuba diving though, as I get a comprehensive view of my body that way, and like to see nothing changing. (Fingers crossed for next time!)

 

[Gwynn]

Thanks DocB I am happy to continue in the forum. A fascinating and great bunch you all are too. Such variety too. Phenomenal experieces all round. Successes, people struggle, some very confused but there's always positive helpful replies