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Group 7-day waking average?

Morning 5.0 for me today.
 
Bore da pawb. 🙂 6.3 for me. Another beautiful Sept day here. 😛
 
Good morning 🙂 8.8 this morning
- 4th night of lantus reduction from 20u to 18u
- thinking of doing now doing another reduction from 18u to 16u because I seem to be having lots of hypos - what does anyone think please?

12/09 - 17/09
Fast: 5.4 / 2.1 / 2.9 / 7.0 / 5.4 / 5.7 / 2.9 (3x hypos)
Bf bfast: 7.4 / 5.4 / 11.7 / 7.0 / 6.8 / 5.8 / 5.9 (1x higher than target)
Bf lnch: 3.9 / 5.4 / 4.9 (1x hypo)
Bf dnnr: 5.8 / 10.6 / 9.1 / 4.6 (2x higher than target)
Bf bed: 16.6 / 16.8 / 7.7 / 13.7 / 8.0 (2x higher than target)
 
Morning all, 4.9 for me today.
 
mum2westiesGill said:
Good afternoon 🙂 5.7 this morning
- 3rd night of lantus reduction from 20u to 18u


12/09 - 16/09
Fast: 5.4 / 2.1 / 2.9 / 7.0 / 5.4 (2x hypos)
Bf bfast: 7.4 / 5.4 / 11.7 / 7.0 / 6.8 (1x higher than target)
Bf lnch: 3.9 / 5.4 (1x hypo)
Bf dnnr: 5.8 / 10.6 / 9.1 (2x higher than target)
Bf bed: 16.6 / 16.8 / 7.7 (2x higher than target)
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Hey Gill, those numbers are starting to look much better 🙂. Before bed and fasting still look a bit tricky with highs and hypos, on some days. Maybe a little bit of focus on those for a few days will help. I can't tell from the figures what the previous nights bedtime reading was in comparison to the fasting, but I'd be looking for no more than an increase or decrease of two overnight (the less the better). So if bedtime reading was 16.6 and the reading was taken at least four/five hours after the rapid insulin, and you didn't eat anything after the test I'd want to wake between 14.6 and 18.6, which would tell me the basal was about right (assuming no dawn phenomena, which I don't get). If it dropped to 7.4 for example I'd assume I had too much basal on board, if it went a great deal higher than 18.6 I'd assume too little basal for my overnight needs. Once I'd tweaked my basal up or down and I think I've got it I basal test and see how it works out. Nightime is my problem area too, so I've done a lot of overnight testing, in fact I think I'm starting to develop nocturnal habits. Good work though Gill looks like you might just beat those highs into submission 🙂
 
Morning.🙂 8.3 here.
 
Good morning 9.3 for me I did have an apple during the night with no bolus so that's about right.
 
KookyCat said:
Hey Gill, those numbers are starting to look much better 🙂. Before bed and fasting still look a bit tricky with highs and hypos, on some days. Maybe a little bit of focus on those for a few days will help. I can't tell from the figures what the previous nights bedtime reading was in comparison to the fasting, but I'd be looking for no more than an increase or decrease of two overnight (the less the better). So if bedtime reading was 16.6 and the reading was taken at least four/five hours after the rapid insulin, and you didn't eat anything after the test I'd want to wake between 14.6 and 18.6, which would tell me the basal was about right (assuming no dawn phenomena, which I don't get). If it dropped to 7.4 for example I'd assume I had too much basal on board, if it went a great deal higher than 18.6 I'd assume too little basal for my overnight needs. Once I'd tweaked my basal up or down and I think I've got it I basal test and see how it works out. Nightime is my problem area too, so I've done a lot of overnight testing, in fact I think I'm starting to develop nocturnal habits. Good work though Gill looks like you might just beat those highs into submission 🙂
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Hi KookyCat,
Thanks for your comments.
I'm dropping considerably from bedtime to waking/fasting as you can see from the bedtime readings then the fasting readings. I think I'm going to now reduce my lantus by 2u & see how that goes for 3+days then I will do some more overnight basal tests. I'm also hypoing inbtween breakfast lunch & dinner so all over the place really, I'm going through that many jelly babies at the moment that I think I should have them on repeat prescription lol. I have done the odd overnight testing recently & like you say you just start doing it automatically lol.


mum2westiesGill said:
12/09 - 17/09
Fast: 5.4 / 2.1 / 2.9 / 7.0 / 5.4 / 5.7 / 2.9 (3x hypos)
Bf bfast: 7.4 / 5.4 / 11.7 / 7.0 / 6.8 / 5.8 / 5.9 (1x higher than target)
Bf lnch: 3.9 / 5.4 / 4.9 (1x hypo)
Bf dnnr: 5.8 / 10.6 / 9.1 / 4.6 (2x higher than target)
Bf bed: 16.6 / 16.8 / 7.7 / 13.7 / 8.0 (2x higher than target)
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Good afternoon 🙂 6.4 this morning
- 5th night of lantus reduction from 20u to 18u
- thinking of now doing another reduction from 18u to 16u because I seem to be having lots of hypos even inbetween times ie bfast lnch & dnnr - what does anyone think please?

12/09 - 17/09
Fast: 5.4 / 2.1 / 2.9 / 7.0 / 5.4 / 5.7 / 2.9 (3x hypos)
Bf bfast: 7.4 / 5.4 / 11.7 / 7.0 / 6.8 / 5.8 / 5.9 (1x higher than target)
Bf lnch: 3.9 / 5.4 / 4.9 (1x hypo)
Bf dnnr: 5.8 / 10.6 / 9.1 / 4.6 (2x higher than target)
Bf bed: 16.6 / 16.8 / 7.7 / 13.7 / 8.0 (2x higher than target)
 
Morning 4.9 for me today 🙂
 
mum2westiesGill said:
Good afternoon 🙂 6.4 this morning
- 5th night of lantus reduction from 20u to 18u
- thinking of now doing another reduction from 18u to 16u because I seem to be having lots of hypos even inbetween times ie bfast lnch & dnnr - what does anyone think please?

12/09 - 17/09
Fast: 5.4 / 2.1 / 2.9 / 7.0 / 5.4 / 5.7 / 2.9 (3x hypos)
Bf bfast: 7.4 / 5.4 / 11.7 / 7.0 / 6.8 / 5.8 / 5.9 (1x higher than target)
Bf lnch: 3.9 / 5.4 / 4.9 (1x hypo)
Bf dnnr: 5.8 / 10.6 / 9.1 / 4.6 (2x higher than target)
Bf bed: 16.6 / 16.8 / 7.7 / 13.7 / 8.0 (2x higher than target)
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Personally, I would be inclined to reduce it Gill, night hypos in particular are not good news :( Hope you can find a happy medium soon! Might be an idea to get a pen that uses single units for lantus for more accurate fine-tuning. Some of those fasting numbers look very good, but when you consider how far you have fallen overnight then even those good ones suggest too much lantus.
 
mum2westiesGill said:
Good afternoon 🙂 6.4 this morning
- 5th night of lantus reduction from 20u to 18u
- thinking of now doing another reduction from 18u to 16u because I seem to be having lots of hypos even inbetween times ie bfast lnch & dnnr - what does anyone think please?

12/09 - 17/09
Fast: 5.4 / 2.1 / 2.9 / 7.0 / 5.4 / 5.7 / 2.9 (3x hypos)
Bf bfast: 7.4 / 5.4 / 11.7 / 7.0 / 6.8 / 5.8 / 5.9 (1x higher than target)
Bf lnch: 3.9 / 5.4 / 4.9 (1x hypo)
Bf dnnr: 5.8 / 10.6 / 9.1 / 4.6 (2x higher than target)
Bf bed: 16.6 / 16.8 / 7.7 / 13.7 / 8.0 (2x higher than target)
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Hi Gill

I'd give a reduction a try given the morning hypos, but might be worth doing some post meal tests as well, I find that me and the Lantus have a troublesome relationship, I take 16 units which works, but when I dial down to 14 I get a peak just before dinner. At first I thought I needed to have more insulin at lunch, but when I did that I kept having hypos on my mid afternoon dog walk, but still crept up higher before dinner. Then I had a lightbulb moment and tested post meal, and that showed me I was having too much rapid and not enough basal. I know the extra testing is a pain but it might help with that evening high situation that sometimes happens when you get to looking at your ratios. We should all get an degree in self experimentation for this diabetes malarkey 😉
 
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