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Group 7-day waking average?

9.4 today
9.2 yesterday
 
5.1 today, 5.5 Sunday and 5.8 Saturday 🙂
 
8.7 this morning. Chuffed to bits.

I think eating my "evening" meal at about 4pm yesterday was the major factor in that. Although I went to bed with my tummy rumbling at 11.30pm, and woke up twice feeling sick I was so hungry, it has had a decent effect on the BG level!!! :D
 
Emmaathome said:
8.7 this morning. Chuffed to bits.

I think eating my "evening" meal at about 4pm yesterday was the major factor in that. Although I went to bed with my tummy rumbling at 11.30pm, and woke up twice feeling sick I was so hungry, it has had a decent effect on the BG level!!! :D
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Good stuff! 🙂 I tend to eat fairly early, usually before 5:30. If I get hunger pangs I have a sugar free jelly, some nuts or some cheese 🙂
 
Northerner said:
How do you feel about those numbers Doddy? I know they are still a little on the high side but much, much better than you were getting 🙂
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They are much better, but again, I feel like i have stalled. I would like to get my waking figures down to 7 at least.
I question whether I could get it lower by taking the lantus mid way through the day instead, say 12pm...my numbers usually rise in the evening, as my evening meal is my biggest meal, but then again, if I get the dose of novorapid right, surely that will counteract the rise from the meal....
 
6.3 today. Surprised as I still feel rubbish & only just done my lantus about 3hrs late 🙂
 
Doddy said:
They are much better, but again, I feel like i have stalled. I would like to get my waking figures down to 7 at least.
I question whether I could get it lower by taking the lantus mid way through the day instead, say 12pm...my numbers usually rise in the evening, as my evening meal is my biggest meal, but then again, if I get the dose of novorapid right, surely that will counteract the rise from the meal....
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It sounds like you need to test your lantus to see if it is running out in the evenings (known as a 'basal test'). The basic theory is that you have a no-carb meal (or skip the meal, but still do a test at the time the meal would have been) and then test regularly through the evening to see if your levels start to rise. If they do, without the complication of carbs and novorapid to consider, then it means that you have insufficient lantus to match the output from your liver. As you surmise, one way of overcoming this is to change the timing of the dose (but that might then present a problem at another point in the day), or split the lantus dose.

How long after eating your evening meal are you taking your bedtime reading? With me, it has to have been at least 5 hours before I know that the novorapid has been 'used up' and my level is the lowest it is likely to be.
 
Northerner said:
It sounds like you need to test your lantus to see if it is running out in the evenings (known as a 'basal test'). The basic theory is that you have a no-carb meal (or skip the meal, but still do a test at the time the meal would have been) and then test regularly through the evening to see if your levels start to rise. If they do, without the complication of carbs and novorapid to consider, then it means that you have insufficient lantus to match the output from your liver. As you surmise, one way of overcoming this is to change the timing of the dose (but that might then present a problem at another point in the day), or split the lantus dose.

How long after eating your evening meal are you taking your bedtime reading? With me, it has to have been at least 5 hours before I know that the novorapid has been 'used up' and my level is the lowest it is likely to be.
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It varies...sometimes I eat close to going to bed...depends on the circumstances. More often than not there is at least 4 hrs between eating and bed.
So to do the basal test, I can eat normally up till the time I would have tea, skip tea, but still continue to test. Could I eat after this time, so like have tea very late (but make sure it was a light tea).
If I was to split the lantus, do you just halve the dose and give it at the split times? can you do this without the GP's guidance, or do you have to inform them what you are doing.
I know it's MY ilness, but I wonder how much playing around with it I can do alone (if that makes sense!)
 
Doddy said:
It varies...sometimes I eat close to going to bed...depends on the circumstances. More often than not there is at least 4 hrs between eating and bed.
So to do the basal test, I can eat normally up till the time I would have tea, skip tea, but still continue to test. Could I eat after this time, so like have tea very late (but make sure it was a light tea).
If I was to split the lantus, do you just halve the dose and give it at the split times? can you do this without the GP's guidance, or do you have to inform them what you are doing.
I know it's MY ilness, but I wonder how much playing around with it I can do alone (if that makes sense!)
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I think that for now you should follow your doctor's guidance and keep them informed of anything you think might help. Before long though, once you get the hang of it and things start to click you'll end up doing most things on your own - it's the only sensible/practical way as you learn more about your diabetes.

Personally, I pretty much started adjusting things myself after a month or so because I realised things like I was going low consistently after certain meals so reduced dose (and vice versa). Took me quite a while longer to learn about all the other things I needed to consider (again, tends to be quite personal to the individual, but others' experiences help with ideas).

Ideally, you would need to test up until the time you would normally take your lantus. Some people just have sugar-free jelly. This article gives an explanation of basal testing. It refers to pumps, but the principles are similar.

http://www.diatribe.us/issues/13/learning-curve

I've never needed to split doses of lantus, but for those people who do I think it is rarely an equal split because you tend to need more for one part of the day than others (e.g. people tend to be more insulin resistant in the mornings, so need more to cover that).
 
Good evening my bs was 7.9 this morning - revenge of the sticky toffee pudding maybe he he he
 
Northerner So do i health not to good still suffern fron Hot /Cold flushn and when it happens my BG is Iratic that all il say all over the place So Diabetes Centre on Wed so goin to have a chat with them .
M
 
Marier said:
Northerner So do i health not to good still suffern fron Hot /Cold flushn and when it happens my BG is Iratic that all il say all over the place So Diabetes Centre on Wed so goin to have a chat with them .
M
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I hope they can help you with some suggestions Marie 🙂
 
5.1 this morning....🙂
 
hi everyone

been away.... so Saturday 7.5..... Sunday 9.7..... this morning 10.4 :(
 
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