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Group 7-day waking average?

DuncanLord said:
May I ask you knowledgeable people a question about cooking and carbs.
I tried this afternoon doing a mince dish to go with pasta.
Knowing the values of each component, from the Fat secret App and the weight of each item let me calculate the Carbs and Cals values of the mincemeat, onions tomatoes, Kidney beans, sweetcorn and green beans.
this was added together in the form of a spreadsheet.
I knew the total weight of food prepared 2241g so the values of the meals could be again calculated by dividing by 100 and multiple by portion size.
Is that how it works or have I missed a step that cooking involves.
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I'm blown away by how diligent you with these calculations but I am really not sure they are necessary.

The DAFNE course (which is essentially the Gold standard in carb counting and dose adjustment) recommended that we just count the carbs in the carb rich components of a meal, so in your case the pasta..... they wouldn't even count the kidney beans although I certainly do.
Since I don't eat pasta because I follow a low carb way of eating, I would look at a meal like that and think I probably need 1 unit for the kidney beans and 1 unit for the tomatoes and onions... maybe 1.5 since you also have sweetcorn. So for a portion of that I would have maybe 2.5 units of insulin, but that would be without any pasta (at a ratio of 1:10) I might then need another unit of insulin a couple of hours later to cover the protein in the mince because I eat low carb.
I certainly wouldn't be weighing and measuring and calculating the carbs in every single ingredient. It would impact too much on my everyday life and I would burn out very quickly.
I can't begin to imagine going into such in depth calculations and when you only have a whole unit pen I personally think it is serious overkill.
 
DuncanLord said:
May I ask you knowledgeable people a question about cooking and carbs.
I tried this afternoon doing a mince dish to go with pasta.
Knowing the values of each component, from the Fat secret App and the weight of each item let me calculate the Carbs and Cals values of the mincemeat, onions tomatoes, Kidney beans, sweetcorn and green beans.
this was added together in the form of a spreadsheet. ( Sorry for finger marks Etc on the photo)
I knew the total weight of food prepared 2241g so the values of the meals could be again calculated by dividing by 100 and multiple by portion size.
Is that how it works or have I missed a step that cooking involves.
True unless it’s blended like baby food some bits will have more carbs than others but it might work approximately. I know the stomach does not differentiate between parts of meal but I like to taste and feel textures of various components.

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I was a bit confused by your description of how you’d arrived at the answer, but looking at your chart, that’s exactly right.
I started off calculating everything, as you are doing, until I'd got a working list of all the meals I normally eat, then eventually I got a feel for how much carb would be in similar recipes, and relaxed my calculations.
 
DuncanLord said:
I knew the total weight of food prepared 2241g so the values of the meals could be again calculated by dividing by 100 and multiple by portion size.
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I don't think I understand that part. It may well make sense, but the way I'd do it is to divide by 22.41 (to get the carbs (and cals) per 100g), then work out the portion quantities from that. Or decide what a sensible portion size was and just divide the numbers by the number of portions in 2241g.

(I agree with the other comments that at least for carbs, you're being way more precise than any normal person would be. I'd be with the others and just count the pasta and I'd be rounding the numbers on that too.)
 
DuncanLord said:
May I ask you knowledgeable people a question about cooking and carbs.
I tried this afternoon doing a mince dish to go with pasta.
Knowing the values of each component, from the Fat secret App and the weight of each item let me calculate the Carbs and Cals values of the mincemeat, onions tomatoes, Kidney beans, sweetcorn and green beans.
this was added together in the form of a spreadsheet. ( Sorry for finger marks Etc on the photo)
I knew the total weight of food prepared 2241g so the values of the meals could be again calculated by dividing by 100 and multiple by portion size.
Is that how it works or have I missed a step that cooking involves.
True unless it’s blended like baby food some bits will have more carbs than others but it might work approximately. I know the stomach does not differentiate between parts of meal but I like to taste and feel textures of various components.

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Not sure how this will work - presumably some liquid will be involved, some of which will evaporate during cooking, so pre- and post-cooking total weights will be different?

It seems massively over-complicated! Easier to think of number of portions involved. And I wouldn't even think of calculating the green beans.
 
Good morning 7.0 today

have a great day everybody
 
00:30 BS 10.5 Slept past LR alarm & it’s 2 hours late, bunged it in DP busted with half oatcake & 18 units of NR. Then, about an hour & a half later when I wanted to eat breakfast I tried to test but, the meter stopped working AGAIN: it’s the second GlucoRx ultra mini from the health centre that just stopped woking; at least this time the memory is accessible & it just won’t work when I put a strip in! Had a hunt round my bedside draw for the bigger meter that GlucoRx sent me recently that its two batteries were still working to test 02:01 BS 9.3! Then, had breakfast & had a REALLY good rummage in my drawer to finally find the spare ultra mini meter that only takes one battery & a lot more compact! I then, ordered more strips & another meter online prescriptions & sent a bit of a whiny note in the extra info box that this is the second meter that’s stopped working suddenly & No! It’s not the battery as I tried a new one! Saying I’m using the spare one now but, I definitely need another one as a spare if these meters keep stopping working suddenly like this! 😡

I also, a bit confusingly got another flu vaccine letter, yesterday, for 27/1021 at 7pm when I already have one for 20/10/21? o_O I’ll ring the health centre at some point today, preferably NOT during the morning rush for appointments, to check which date? I’d kind of forgotten about the flu vaccine comping up so soon as I’m still a bit coughy so, would prefer going next week for it to clear up first!

A Very Good Morning to you all & have a Wonderful Day! 😉

Latest episode of GBBO later tonight IF I can stay up for it! 😛
 
Oh yes! Completely forgot! Also, in yesterday’s mail is letter for an ultra sound of my abdomen at the Causeway Hospital 02/11/21 09:40 that my hospital diabetes doctor ordered way back in the summer, during phone review, which coincides rather neatly with one other letter for another diabetic phone review with said doctor on 02/11/21 15:45! 🙄 So, a bit of a mad dash for the scan in the morning & rush back for phone review in the afternoon that day: doctor wanted a look at my liver & other organs as the waiting list for the gastrointestinal team is still SO long; gastro team secretary rang me just before lockdown in Feb. 2020 asking if I still wanted to wait, had been waiting for a year at that point, & there was another 3 years wait to the top of the list! I bet you it’s been delayed further by Covid! I reasonably asked, at the time, what if I get worse in that time? To which she said get my GP to refer me again urgently & I’ll be seen sooner! Three medical appointment letters in one morning’s post yesterday!😱
 
DuncanLord: sounds right to me. It is essentially what my App does for each food component in any recipe or meal. Hard work on paper though.

BG 4.2 this morning. I am sure it meant 5.2. Probably a spelling mistake in the machine. Software error no doubt.

Oh, and good dark, very rainy morning everyone.

Not sure I will get out this morning for exercise as it is raining velociraptors and diplodocuses right now (hmm not sure about the spelling there).
 
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SueEK said:
Am DELIGHTED to report I have healed and catheter is gone , feels like Christmas has come early. Thank you so much everyone for listening to my moaning and supporting me. One huge step done and dusted, bring on the next one 🙂🙂🙂🙂
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That’s brilliant news @SueEK !!! I’m really pleased for you, you’ve been so patient. Woohoo!

Morning all. 🙂 4.6 for me.

Had a fab video appointment yesterday with one of the DSNs. They’re all so lovely at my new hospital. She looked thru my Libre data and said...drum roll...your control and your self-management are excellent. Never been told that before, ever. So even tho my A1c isn’t quite in the sweet spot yet, I feel it’s achievable. It just goes to show - a few kind words can be a real confidence booster. 😛🙂:D

They’re like buses @Lanny - nothing at all, then suddenly a queue of them lined up. Hope your appointments go well.
 
7.5 today. Miserable sticky humid wet morning in Poole. Next-door having work done, banging and hammering machinery screaming, hope they finish soon.
 
Oops I missed it again! 5.1 today. 🙂

Dez
 
A happy good morning all and thank you all for your lovely messages. Who would have thought such delight could be found in sitting on a toilet having a wee, not standing up like a man!! We got stuck yet again on the M25 for over 2 hours on the way back from hospital but I’m sure I smiled through it all anyhow. Two large Bacardi and cokes were partaken last evening and I also has 2 squares of chocolate (just to join you @Barfly ).
So a 7.1 today, about to have a lovely long bath, free of accessories and then I’m going to wear my leggings or maybe jeans - because I can, ooh so excited.
Have a good day all and hope the small things in life can get you as excited as I am xxx
 
@SueEK Ladies should always wear a skirt or dress when perambulating. Trousers and leggings....oh dear oh dear how inelegant, not for the ladies on this forum surely........
 
Morning all, 7.3 here, jelly baby assisted at 4am, and one too ma by the looks. Note to self, as someone recently put on a thread, more glucose doesn’t make it get into your system any faster!
Managed a walk over a headland called Baggy Point yesterday. For any Grand Designs watchers, we had a good view of the £10 million lighthouse that ended in disaster and divorce. It still isn’t finished, judging by the hoardings round it, and the crane and pile driver. I was amused, because the programme always made it sound isolated, but in fact it overlooks the holidays parks and surf school at Croyde bay, and there are other houses dotted all the way round the headland. Rain forecast today, so no chance of another cliff top walk, still holding out for Hartland Point, @eggyg , if the sun comes out again. Need to keep the muscles going for if we ever get back to the Dolomites. May go for a walk along the dunes from Westward Ho! just for the excitement of going somewhere with an exclamation mark in its name.
 
No figures from me this morning. Out of test strips and they were meant to arrive yesterday but are coming today I’ve been told.
 
Good Morning All
A 6.0 for me this morning at 07:57.
@MeeTooTeeTwo I’m glad your glucose meter has started working properly again. Lol

@rebrascora @Robin @Bruce Stephens @Gwynn
Thank you for your comments about my meal preparation and calculations. I thought I had the ideas correct but it’s good that you confirm my thinking.
True it might be slightly over complicated but it did not take too long Yes it’s easier just to tip things into the pan but then blood sugar will probably go skywards or into orbit.
I’m not yet calculating the doses of my NovoRapid as the DN has not yet set the ratios. They are thinking about putting me on a Dafne course but that will come eventually. Heath service v DVLA. Any guesses who might win!

Have a great day
 
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