Group 7-day waking average?

[eggyg]

Nope. Mystified! If the scan of 3.7 had happened soon after the dip on your graph, say, round about 1am, I’d have said that the Libre algorithm was assuming you’d carry on dropping. It sometimes gets it wrong and then when the sensor takes the next actual reading, it corrects itself and the low never appears on the graph. But the low reading was a couple of hours after, when the graph was showing a more steady line. So no, haven't a clue why it would signal the low then, about an hour after it should have predicted it happening.

It’s a strange one. I’ll be keeping a close eye on it and doing some finger pricking throughout the day too.

 

[DuncanLord]

Morning All
A 7.5 for me this morning.
Yesterday I was fully in target for the pre-meal readings and before bed. However had a 12.0 mid afternoon before taking car to the shops.
So I must be somewhere close.
Have a good day.

 

[mum2westiesGill]

Good morning everyone 🙂
6.4 for me at 7:37am

8.1 before breakfast at 9:45am - 36g of carbs - 4.5 units humalog food and 0.5 units humalog correction

6.4 before bed 22:52pm 4 hours after tea - below 7mmol - 8mmol for bedtime so maybe I could've had 1x or 2x rich tea biscuit/s of 6g of carbs each but I chose not to

6.1 before tea at 18:50pm - 83g of carbs - 8.0 units humalog for food

I would really appreciate any comments on my bgs 🙂

I've been off work on Tuesday and Wednesday with a bad cold and feeling lousy but I'm back in today and it's my day in the dinner hall all day so lots to do

 

[TinaD]

An undeserved 5.3 this morning. Guilty admission: yesterday was a right pain in the unmentionables so had a drink (my third this year) in the evening and also exceeded my calorie and carb allowance...

 

[rebrascora]

6.5 for me but only because I did a 1.5u Fiasp correction for an 8.5 as DP started to kick in 2 hours earlier. That said, I dropped the evening dose of Levemir back down to zero and went to bed on 5.2.
Had a funny day yesterday and levels went stubbornly high in the morning 7-9s after my normal breakfast and stayed there most of the day despite being very active and doing lots of walking which is why I didn't correct. It got to 2.30pm and I gave in and shot myself 1.5 units and ate a dried apricot to mop up the half unit, as I hadn't had any lunch and fancied something. 2 hours later it was nicely down into the 5s but then spent the rest of the evening trying to drop too low. Libre actually shows 3 dips into the red but I double checked them and I was 4s and low 5s. Didn't eat until very late (after 10pm) and just had some olives and cheese and a very small portion of tomato soup and then an Options hot chocolate as levels were still dropping a bit, hence deciding not to have any Levemir. Current 7day TIR is 91% but 8% below😱, although all but one of those were not hypos at all and the only one that was, was 3.8, so nowhere near as shoddy as it looks. 😎

@eggyg I wonder if you briefly rolled onto your sensor arm which produced a sudden dip that the algorithm later realised was an anomaly and therefore smoothed out the graph, essentially erasing it. It's almost like it knows it got it wrong so it is covering it's tracks and trying to remove the evidence! Naughty Libre! Don't think I will be using alarms overnight when I eventually get Libre 2. Having said that, if you were actually low and it happened, the stress of waking up suddenly to the alarm might cause the liver to dump some glucose and save you needing to eat JBs.
I hope your test kit will be by the bed in the future, especially if you are not too keen to munch JBs in the night at the whim of Libre.

 

[rebrascora]

An undeserved 5.3 this morning. Guilty admission: yesterday was a right pain in the unmentionables so had a drink (my third this year) in the evening and also exceeded my calorie and carb allowance...

Sorry to hear you had a bad day, but maybe the drink should be a more regular part of your routine judging by that result. 😉 Sometimes it is important to cut yourself a little slack!

 

[rebrascora]

@mum2westiesGill It looks like not eating the biscuits was a good decision last night and the 2 biscuits the previous night was far too much.
Now that you have reduced your Tresiba, it may be that you need to review your evening routine as regards how many biscuits you have unbolused at bedtime and/or what BG level you need to eat one. Ie Maybe just one small biscuit between 7 and 8 but none if you are above 8 unless you bolus for it. That is just an example of what I mean, rather than a suggestion of what to do.
It is also possible that your cold has increased your basal needs so that the biscuits have not been necessary the last couple of nights but may become necessary again once the cold has passed.

 

[mum2westiesGill]

Thanks for your reply @rebrascora I'm just off to work so will reply later when I'm home x

 

[eggyg]

6.5 for me but only because I did a 1.5u Fiasp correction for an 8.5 as DP started to kick in 2 hours earlier. That said, I dropped the evening dose of Levemir back down to zero and went to bed on 5.2.
Had a funny day yesterday and levels went stubbornly high in the morning 7-9s after my normal breakfast and stayed there most of the day despite being very active and doing lots of walking which is why I didn't correct. It got to 2.30pm and I gave in and shot myself 1.5 units and ate a dried apricot to mop up the half unit, as I hadn't had any lunch and fancied something. 2 hours later it was nicely down into the 5s but then spent the rest of the evening trying to drop too low. Libre actually shows 3 dips into the red but I double checked them and I was 4s and low 5s. Didn't eat until very late (after 10pm) and just had some olives and cheese and a very small portion of tomato soup and then an Options hot chocolate as levels were still dropping a bit, hence deciding not to have any Levemir. Current 7day TIR is 91% but 8% below😱, although all but one of those were not hypos at all and the only one that was, was 3.8, so nowhere near as shoddy as it looks. 😎

@eggyg I wonder if you briefly rolled onto your sensor arm which produced a sudden dip that the algorithm later realised was an anomaly and therefore smoothed out the graph, essentially erasing it. It's almost like it knows it got it wrong so it is covering it's tracks and trying to remove the evidence! Naughty Libre! Don't think I will be using alarms overnight when I eventually get Libre 2. Having said that, if you were actually low and it happened, the stress of waking up suddenly to the alarm might cause the liver to dump some glucose and save you needing to eat JBs.
I hope your test kit will be by the bed in the future, especially if you are not too keen to munch JBs in the night at the whim of Libre.

That was my first thought Barbara, you’re right, naughty, naughty Libre. I’ll try and remember to take my metre up stairs tonight. Or I might take the spare one out of the car and leave it up there permanently, now I have the Libre and I always have my diabetes kit bag with me when I go out, I don’t need three means of measuring my BGs in the car!

 

[eggyg]

8.9 this morning. Must adjust basals overnight, been a bit lazy about it due to lots going on. Have been asked by my GPs surgery to be a guinea pig for getting access to my medical records and test results online. Quite excited as I have been banging on about this for months via the PPG. It seems they have done a dramatic turnaround in their attitude.

Good luck with the DVLA @DuncanLord

@eggyg my chiropractor does acupuncture and I swear by him for curing leg pain due to a twisted pelvis. So good luck with the new Osteo.

I have had acupuncture today. I’m a bit achy now but I know it will be worth it. Also had my sacrum adjusted, again!

 

[Lanny]

Yay! I got all my party food except for two items of roast whole chicken & truffle mac n’ cheese: got my gyozas; most importantly!😛 Just had a slap up lunch of gyozas, mini burgers & duck selection of rolls with coke & guessed big bolus of 60 NR to start with & I suspect may need more!🙄 Oh yes! I did an hour’s basal test earlier after breakfast & 76 units of Tresiba seems bang on as my BS stayed at 6.1🙂 May do another one at some other time to double check that? My verdict on tesco’s Sunshine Gyozas? I wished they hadn’t messed with the winning 5 each of chicken & prawn dumplings with a soy dip with red, yellow & orange dumplings 3 each of chicken, prawn & vegetable with no dip: the chicken & prawn taste the same but, I don’t like the vegetable ones; need to make my own dip which isn’t a big thing as I water it down a bit of equal light soy, honey & water mixed well with a splash of sesame oil!

 

[Kaylz]

@Lanny I'm not sure what you mean? To do a basal test there must be no active fast acting insulin so started 4 hours after the last bolus, and it's done in time blocks throughout the days, a 1 off test an hour after a bolus and eating breakfast wouldn't give any insight to whether your Tresiba dose is correct or not xx

 

[mum2westiesGill]

@mum2westiesGill It looks like not eating the biscuits was a good decision last night and the 2 biscuits the previous night was far too much.

You might be right. My bedtime bg last night was 6.4 and waking this morning was 6.4. The previous night bedtime was 8.0 and waking was 11.0 - I had a total of 17g of carbs.

Now that you have reduced your Tresiba, it may be that you need to review your evening routine as regards how many biscuits you have unbolused at bedtime and/or what BG level you need to eat one. Ie Maybe just one small biscuit between 7 and 8 but none if you are above 8 unless you bolus for it. That is just an example of what I mean, rather than a suggestion of what to do.
It is also possible that your cold has increased your basal needs so that the biscuits have not been necessary the last couple of nights but may become necessary again once the cold has passed.

 

[Lanny]

Oops! 😳 Sorry @Kaylz , in my hurry to post earlier & not helped with me going on from one subject back to the other one without my usual double spaced paragraphs I wasn’t very clear!

So, I’ll be clear now! I did the basal test yesterday 1 hour after active Novorapid had run out after breakfast: left the timer running until after 5 hours & tested then, didn’t eat until after 6 hours before eating lunch; 1 hour after active breakfast NR BS 6.1 & 2 hours after still 6.1.

I actually didn’t eat breakfast this morning & only DP busted since I knew tesco delivery was coming so, technically I suppose it WAS breakfast I ate after the shopping had arrived just after 11am, put away, cooked & had my Tresiba & NR just a bit after 11:30 & that made me think of the results of yesterday’s basal test!

No wonder you’re confused: flitting about from one thing to another & back again without any paragraphs in between; very hasty post! 😳

 

[Kaylz]

Oops! 😳 Sorry @Kaylz , in my hurry to post earlier & not helped with me going on from one subject back to the other one without my usual double spaced paragraphs I wasn’t very clear!

So, I’ll be clear now! I did the basal test yesterday 1 hour after active Novorapid had run out after breakfast: left the timer running until after 5 hours & tested then, didn’t eat until after 6 hours before eating lunch; 1 hour after active breakfast NR BS 6.1 & 2 hours after still 6.1.

I actually didn’t eat breakfast this morning & only DP busted since I knew tesco delivery was coming so, technically I suppose it WAS breakfast I ate after the shopping had arrived just after 11am, put away, cooked & had my Tresiba & NR just a bit after 11:30 & that made me think of the results of yesterday’s basal test!

No wonder you’re confused: flitting about from one thing to another & back again without any paragraphs in between; very hasty post! 😳

I'm still confused, to do a basal test you totally miss meals, so you'd start it at least 4 hours after breakfast say and miss lunch checking every 1-2 hours to see that it's steady and then have tea as normal and so on, the small time frame you mention isn't enough information for a basal test xx

 

[Lanny]

I'm still confused, to do a basal test you totally miss meals, so you'd start it at least 4 hours after breakfast say and miss lunch checking every 1-2 hours to see that it's steady and then have tea as normal and so on, the small time frame you mention isn't enough information for a basal test xx

Ahh! So, all this time I’ve been doing basal tests wrong! Thanks for that @Kaylz 🙂

I can see now why some have posted about a pain it is to have to do it! I just thought delaying a meal for a couple of hours instead of skipping it entirely!😳

 

[Kaylz]

Ahh! So, all this time I’ve been doing basal tests wrong! Thanks for that @Kaylz 🙂

I can see now why some have posted about a pain it is to have to do it! I just thought delaying a meal for a couple of hours instead of skipping it entirely!😳

Here's a link better explaining basal testing, well worth a read if you get the chance - https://www.mysugr.com/en/blog/basal-rate-testing/ xx

 

[rebrascora]

You might be right. My bedtime bg last night was 6.4 and waking this morning was 6.4. The previous night bedtime was 8.0 and waking was 11.0 - I had a total of 17g of carbs.

10g of carbs would raise my BG levels about 3 mmols, so 15g would raise me 4.5mmols and 17g is going to increase them by at least 5mmols. That means that a couple of hours later my levels would have risen from 8 to 13 and if my basal dose is holding me level then I can expect to wake up around that level and have been high and above range all night.

Of course you might have a slight surplus of basal insulin during the night with Tresiba, so it might drop your levels a little bit but it should not be dropping you 5mmols so by eating those carbs without any bolus insulin you may go too high, especially now that you have reduced your Tresiba to 15 units as that is the only insulin which is working overnight.

 

[Bexlee]

Good morning, a higher 9.9 for me and graph shows despite being well in target at bedtime, by midnight i'd gone up to the low 10s and hovered just outside target all night .
Is it Friday yet? Very tired. Have a good day everyone.

Is it Friday yet??? Is it???! I’m on a residential. I can’t give a waking reading as I don’t think I actually went to sleep! 😳 Around feeding time this morning it was 3.3!
Just got the darlings off to sleep. I’ll delight in waking them at 06.30 🙂 currently 4.2 as I try and think about sleep. All great fun really.

 

[Gwynn]

I am definitely first up this morning. !!!! 🙂

It's blowing a gale and raining this cold, dark morning. Glad to be indoors in the warm.

BG 5.5 At last back in the 5's but just a bit too far. 🙂

Ordered a few Christmas presents yesterday. They may arrive over the weekend. Including the new kettle for the one that blew up yesterday. The thing that worried me the most was all the boiling water on the wooden floor. I was worried it might have damaged the floor. Thankfully it didn't.

My wife is very much into making bread at the moment. So I have got her a bread making machine amongst other things. I just hope that she will like it

We decided to order the Christmas food from M&S yesterday too, only to find that they are no longer taking bookings. So we had a rethink for Christmas meals and came up with some stuff that we really like at about a tenth the cost. Easy. But our thinking my be wrong. We may still be able to get the stuff in the shop closer to the time. Whatever we decide to do, it will be no fuss, no stress.

Have a great day whatever you do today.