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Group 7-day waking average?

rebrascora said:
Had an odd day yesterday with my levels!
I feel robbed!.... All that exercise and barely any change in my BG when normally I need 30-50 g carbs! Nice to have a stable BG day of course but just really odd and I was convinced that my levels would suddenly drop like a stone at some point, perhaps through the night, which made me a bit anxious. Just when you think you have it figured out, it baffles you!
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I’m trying to calculate how to balance carbs against BG levels and whether to pre compensate by snacking first or leave till afterwards.
So far it looks like 10 carbs an hour for a brisk walk, but probably missed out many variables, Calorific values , time of day, ( At what stage insulin foods are at ).
As you say it Baffles or is it that damn Fairy.
 
Still in the 8s, but not surprised after last night's tension. :(

Me and Mum have had a cold for years and years. Really. All the symptoms of a cold, permanent. I dunno! o_O
 
DuncanLord said:
I’m trying to calculate how to balance carbs against BG levels and whether to pre compensate by snacking first or leave till afterwards.
So far it looks like 10 carbs an hour for a brisk walk, but probably missed out many variables, Calorific values , time of day, ( At what stage insulin foods are at ).
As you say it Baffles or is it that damn Fairy.
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I think a lot has to do with basal needs/liver output and there is no equation for that and it can be quite variable. Usually I walk on a morning or mid day or late at night. Have have been seeing my BG levels drifting upwards on an afternoon early evening recently so I am sort of guessing that my exercise balanced that out but 40 or 50g carbs which I would normally need for that sort of walk would usually raise my levels by 12+ mmols (without exercise or insulin) as 10g carbs raises me about 3mmols and there is no way my BG increases by that much on an evening without exercise.... just maybe 4-5mmols in the absence of food.
I think it is more difficult for you to quantify anything with being on a mixed insulin as you can't skip meals and do what we call a basal test and see if the slow release portion of your mixed insulin is holding you steady. You really just need to keep everything as regular and even and routine as possible. This may become more difficult when you go back to work, particularly if you do long journeys where some days it may be difficult to fit in regular meals or get out for exercise and other days will be easier.
 
Why oh why can’t the Health Service talk between itself? Is it a National Health Service or a series of individual empires?
Last Week down at the Hospital the consultant and the Diabetic Nurse changed my Glucose Meter for one that links into the Diabetes:m App, which talks to the hospital and consultant with all my trends patterns foods Etc Etc.
I told my Gp on that day by visiting the surgery and requested new glucose test strips and Ketone test strips for that meter.
Had a phone call the next day that I would have to wait until probably Friday for the diabetic team to tell Doctors that they had changed meter.
No test strips at chemists this morning so down to about 3 or 4 days supply.
Just been told at surgery that I must phone up to attempt to get an appointment with doctor so that they can issue prescription for new strips. Doh!
Sorry for the rant but ………..
 
Bit late reporting my waking level today. It was 8.6. Not bad after half a smallish pizza last night.
I am seeing the numbers starting to come down throughout the day and have had some 7s snd one or 2 6s pre-meal so whatever I am doing is working.
 
merrymunky said:
Bit late reporting my waking level today. It was 8.6. Not bad after half a smallish pizza last night.
I am seeing the numbers starting to come down throughout the day and have had some 7s snd one or 2 6s pre-meal so whatever I am doing is working.
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Well done
 
I obviously spoke too soon as I was back in hypo mode this morning (3.9) although been generally low all day (3.2 at lunch and 4.1 at dinner)
 
Telemóveis said:
I obviously spoke too soon as I was back in hypo mode this morning (3.9) although been generally low all day (3.2 at lunch and 4.1 at dinner)
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Which basal insulin do you use? It might be worth discussing another reduction in dose with your nurse.
It often happens that once you start on insulin it gives your pancreas a bit of a break and then it feels rejuvenated and fired up the insulin production meaning that the dose of insulin which you were initially taking becomes too much. It is usually a temporary situation but it can last months or years. Alternatively it might be the warmer weather or perhaps you have been doing more activity sport. These things all have an impact on basal insulin needs and doses need to be tweaked every now and then to accommodate such things.
 
rebrascora said:
Which basal insulin do you use? It might be worth discussing another reduction in dose with your nurse.
It often happens that once you start on insulin it gives your pancreas a bit of a break and then it feels rejuvenated and fired up the insulin production meaning that the dose of insulin which you were initially taking becomes too much. It is usually a temporary situation but it can last months or years. Alternatively it might be the warmer weather or perhaps you have been doing more activity sport. These things all have an impact on basal insulin needs and doses need to be tweaked every now and then to accommodate such things.
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Levemir 🙂 Ahhhhhhh you raise a really good and interesting point so thank you. I do have an appointment tomorrow morning so can discuss having another reduction. Not particularly done much activity in the past few days but the warm weather is another potential factor (never been a fan of summer honestly😛). And we’re still early days so it makes sense that stuff will need tweaking. Thanks again🙂
 
Telemóveis said:
Levemir 🙂 Ahhhhhhh you raise a really good and interesting point so thank you. I do have an appointment tomorrow morning so can discuss having another reduction. Not particularly done much activity in the past few days but the warm weather is another potential factor (never been a fan of summer honestly😛). And we’re still early days so it makes sense that stuff will need tweaking. Thanks again🙂
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Good that you are on Levemir as it allows much more flexible adjustment than some other basal insulins. so pleased you have an appointment tomorrow to get some further guidance. Keep us posted with how you get on.
 
rebrascora said:
I think a lot has to do with basal needs/liver output and there is no equation for that and it can be quite variable. Usually I walk on a morning or mid day or late at night. Have have been seeing my BG levels drifting upwards on an afternoon early evening recently so I am sort of guessing that my exercise balanced that out but 40 or 50g carbs which I would normally need for that sort of walk would usually raise my levels by 12+ mmols (without exercise or insulin) as 10g carbs raises me about 3mmols and there is no way my BG increases by that much on an evening without exercise.... just maybe 4-5mmols in the absence of food.
I think it is more difficult for you to quantify anything with being on a mixed insulin as you can't skip meals and do what we call a basal test and see if the slow release portion of your mixed insulin is holding you steady. You really just need to keep everything as regular and even and routine as possible. This may become more difficult when you go back to work, particularly if you do long journeys where some days it may be difficult to fit in regular meals or get out for exercise and other days will be easier.
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I think it’s back to the drawing board, or at least the spreadsheet.
Did a walk tonight of 33 mins and BG dropped to 3.9 from 6.2 even with the added biscuit beforehand. Needed an Apple and another Biscuit to bring it back to 5.8 45 mins later and by pre- bed another hour it was 6.2. (Bet it won’t make a HS in morning. Lol)
Seeing as the Diabetic Nurses have all the data from the app, I’ll give them a ring in morning and see if they have any ideas
 
DuncanLord said:
I think it’s back to the drawing board, or at least the spreadsheet.
Did a walk tonight of 33 mins and BG dropped to 3.9 from 6.2 even with the added biscuit beforehand. Needed an Apple and another Biscuit to bring it back to 5.8 45 mins later and by pre- bed another hour it was 6.2. (Bet it won’t make a HS in morning. Lol)
Seeing as the Diabetic Nurses have all the data from the app, I’ll give them a ring in morning and see if they have any ideas
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Looks like you got the drop in BG that my 90 min walk yesterday failed to give me! Was that your first "hypo"? How did you feel? Sounds like you managed it well. No huge rebound which can be a result of the temptation to eat everything in sight.... Did it make you feel like that?
I am about to head out and see if I can drop my levels with a midnight walk before bed. Been high all afternoon again despite corrections and I only reduced my Levemir by one unit this morning thinking that my walk yesterday was bound to impact my levels today.... but nope... very disappointing! No idea how much Levemir to take tonight but tempted to chuck 6 units in (up from 4 units last night) and then treat myself to a biscuit before bed as being "good" is not working! Sometimes a few naughty carbs breaks the cycle and things start working as they should again. Lets hope so anyway. It's bliss when levels behave themselves and are predictable but so frustrating and demoralizing when they don't!

Hope you get some good support/advice from your nurse tomorrow. It may just be a honeymoon dip ie your own pancreas producing a bit extra. You are on such small doses at the moment that I would imagine you are still able to produce quite a bit of your own insulin but it can be a bit erratic.
 
It’s a 5.7 at 05:35 for me. It’s looking nice and sunny outside.
 
Good morning 6.4 today

update on weight loss, my BMI is now down to under 30 (just) so now overweight but no longer obese
Have a Great Day Everybody!
 
Morning folks. 6.3 for me. A bit overcast but hopeful for a bit of warmth, I need to do some washing.

Didn’t do the ironing as I can’t grip anything with my right hand because of this damn bite. The insides of my fingers are itching too. Might have a walk round to see my tame pharmacist see what she thinks. Any thought anyone? Pic below.

Other than do the laundry no particular plans today for me.

Have a good day.🙂
 

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Morning all. 6.7 for me. Its sunny here and going to be warm.
@eggyg that bite looks nasty, get it checked.
Have a good day everyone
 
3.8 Mad day driving yesterday, flood in Botley was so deep water crept in under my van door poor people were trying to keep water going into houses but those daft 4x4 drivers just ploughed through with no thought for the home owners they could see what they were doing, causing misery for people, disgusting behaviour.

Rant over suns out now.
 
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