Group 7-day waking average?

[Snowwy]

@Lanny well done on the Sudoku, I do one every day and love all things logical.
Very good for the brain I am told!
Blessings Snowwy

 

[Bloden]

Dare I suggest a pump. It is theses issues that drove me bonkers and a pump definitely sorts that out with the hourly basal rate, rather than one hit with an injection.

I hope you get it sorted.

Suggest away!
I’m pushing for a pump, SB. 🙂 Had a phone conversation with a dietitian/ DSN recently. She wants me to send her some Libre data at the end of the month, and we’ll take it from there (ever so slowly, obvs, because of the current situation).

 

[karloc]

Looks and sounds painful!
I tend to eat tea between 6pm and 7pm and my bolus for that is 1:10. Last night after a couple of hours the Libre showed a 3.6 but the finger prick was 4.2. Had a snack of peanuts and 2 tiny cornichons with a glass of wine which worked out at about 8u so as it was less than 10g and with alcohol i didn't bolus for it. 6.4 at bedtime when i had the basal.
It doesn't seem to matter whether i have a snack or not, whether i bolus for a snack or not, its so unpredictable overnight and i've had a couple of overnight hypos over the last 2 weeks which Libre shows have lasted a couple of hours. Its always around the same time it goes up. I have wondered if its hormonal (i am of a certain age now).x

I did read recently that when you drink alcohol espically last thing in the day that your liver will process the alcohol first before it starts doing it's glucose production thing as it cant do both at the same time. Not a good method to keep your BG down but might be an extra spanner in the complex works. No Idea on the facts of all this etc etc but food (or drink) for thought. 😉

 

[freesia]

I did read recently that when you drink alcohol espically last thing in the day that your liver will process the alcohol first before it starts doing it's glucose production thing as it cant do both at the same time. Not a good method to keep your BG down but might be an extra spanner in the complex works. No Idea on the facts of all this etc etc but food (or drink) for thought. 😉

An idea to keep in mind though i only really have a glass of wine on a Friday and Saturday and this is happening most days of the week.

 

[SueEK]

@SueEK no he tolerates a few minutes and then goes for you even though its him that's chosen to come to you, if he's around when me and Bruce move in together (which will hopefully be sometime within the next year) then we'll have to find a new home for him as we want to try again for kids but I wouldn't trust Bubbles anywhere near a child unfortunately xx

We had a cat just like that, in fact the most beautiful cat I’ve ever had but he never fully relaxed and like bubbles would come to you, purr and let you stroke him and then lash out, you could never trust him completely. It’s great to hear you are hoping to set up together with Bruce, I hope that happens very soon for you both but I agree it doesn’t sound like a baby should be near Bubbles x

 

[SB2015]

Suggest away!
I’m pushing for a pump, SB. 🙂 Had a phone conversation with a dietitian/ DSN recently. She wants me to send her some Libre data at the end of the month, and we’ll take it from there (ever so slowly, obvs, because of the current situation).

I think your approach of gathering data helps to show that you will make effective use and do the work involved in . The Libre makes this a lot easier and will show clear obedience of the overnight issues. It is great that they are considering this for you. (You had probably told us that already and I had forgotten)

 

[SueEK]

@karloc and @HenryBennett just my personal opinion but I don’t think there is a normal, everyone is different and my ‘normal’ seems to be in the 6s no matter what I try, others appear to always have readings in the 4s or even 8s so what is normal for one is most definitely not for another. I think if we can try to achieve our normal numbers whilst doing the best we can then that is all we can do. Also for T1s I think it is slightly different as they are juggling insulin doses based on their food intake etc. As I say though just my personal opinion as I see things. X

 

[SB2015]

A 4.8 and scales reading lowest in living memory 🙂.
It maybe just me but I find a 'Normal' level of 4-7 very wide. Is there such a thing as ideal or are we such a varied bunch there is not such thing. In a world that has been so driven by the low-fat hype train I can't help but wonder if the 'Normal' range is just the statistics of people getting away with it - as many of us did for a while. 😉

I wonder whether the 4-7 is what non diabetics usually stay in, but they also go up after eating, just not as much as we do.

I still remember the DSN saying to me at my first 6 month review after diagnosis now you “just need to keep your levels between 4 and 7”. No mention that that was impossible to do!! It encouraged me to set totally unrealistic targets for myself.

I find it encouraging to see a more realistic picture with the levels posted on here in the mornings. It is all so variable and we are all juggling many different factors, and whilst juggling with three balls is manageable, more than that is really difficult. All we can do is the best that we can.

 

[Kaylz]

Looks and sounds painful!
I tend to eat tea between 6pm and 7pm and my bolus for that is 1:10. Last night after a couple of hours the Libre showed a 3.6 but the finger prick was 4.2. Had a snack of peanuts and 2 tiny cornichons with a glass of wine which worked out at about 8u so as it was less than 10g and with alcohol i didn't bolus for it. 6.4 at bedtime when i had the basal.
It doesn't seem to matter whether i have a snack or not, whether i bolus for a snack or not, its so unpredictable overnight and i've had a couple of overnight hypos over the last 2 weeks which Libre shows have lasted a couple of hours. Its always around the same time it goes up. I have wondered if its hormonal (i am of a certain age now).x

I see you had rice and fat, it's possibly a combination of that for last night at least, rice tends to spike people later, I haven't even attempted it because of that and my eating disorder xx

 

[Kaylz]

We had a cat just like that, in fact the most beautiful cat I’ve ever had but he never fully relaxed and like bubbles would come to you, purr and let you stroke him and then lash out, you could never trust him completely. It’s great to hear you are hoping to set up together with Bruce, I hope that happens very soon for you both but I agree it doesn’t sound like a baby should be near Bubbles x

Well his mums said they (her and his dad) will sort out a new cooker for him and that's really the only thing thats stopping me being there now, we were supposed to sign for the flat together when he got it and live together but that morning I received the news that my grandad had been found in his flat dead so I wasn't in the mood for signing for a flat and moving in, my mum might take him but if not then he will just have to rehomed, we really want to try and be parents again and we're both getting on so can't wait around forever xx

 

[SueEK]

Well his mums said they (her and his dad) will sort out a new cooker for him and that's really the only thing thats stopping me being there now, we were supposed to sign for the flat together when he got it and live together but that morning I received the news that my grandad had been found in his flat dead so I wasn't in the mood for signing for a flat and moving in, my mum might take him but if not then he will just have to rehomed, we really want to try and be parents again and we're both getting on so can't wait around forever xx

Sounds great Kaylz you go for it as soon as you can, don’t hang about as life goes by too quickly x

 

[karloc]

@SueEK @SB2015 I agree T1 or any medications will make things different to 'Normal' what ever that is 🙂 and 'targets' to keep out of hypo range will be different.
As a self inflicted type 2 things are moderatly simple for me 😉.
I know that I can get my BG down to 4.0 with Zero carbs and I dont go into Hypo. At the moment I aim to stay in the 4.something range (only morning tests), I still have the fat stores and my liver has shown it can make the glucose I need.

mmm I wonder how many calories I burn replacing that drop of blood each day 😛 .

 

[freesia]

@Kaylz, who knows anymore what causes these levels to rise and fall. My DSN says its all about looking for patterns, but most of the time there just isn't one, and being as there are so many reasons why we rise and fall its hard to pinpoint. Oh well...just keep going.
I really hope you and Bruce get to move in together soon and things go well for you. As SueEK says, life is short and you need to make the most of every day x

 

[Kaylz]

@Kaylz, who knows anymore what causes these levels to rise and fall. My DSN says its all about looking for patterns, but most of the time there just isn't one, and being as there are so many reasons why we rise and fall its hard to pinpoint. Oh well...just keep going.
I really hope you and Bruce get to move in together soon and things go well for you. As SueEK says, life is short and you need to make the most of every day x

Know exactly how you feel (not that I've spoken to a DSN for a long time lol) but I always try and see a pattern and there very rarely is one, so frustrating!
Thanks, the first thing I'd do is treat myself to a long lie! Haha xx

 

[mikeyB]

Good morning folks🙂

I woke on 5.9, after sleeping for a short while in the night on 2.8, so 5.9 is the effect of three jelly babies, after which I went straight back to sleep, confident that I would be safe. Cue smug feeling...😎

My calculations the other day were erroneous, mind. I’ve finished the new Cormoran Strike book, all 800 Kindle pages of it. No spoilers, folks. It’s great fun. The thing is, the hardback version is also 800 pages long, so if you don’t like detective stories you’ve got a handy doorstop.

I’ve got a new Kindle, a Kindle Oasis. It’s as light as a feather, and has bells and whistles that I haven’t yet explored. Costs twice as much as a routine Paperwhite. That means I’m paying for fresh air. Half the weight, and double the cost. Go figure🙄

I’m spending money like it’s going out of fashion at the moment. Next thing arriving on Saturday is a nice new OLED TV from the mad scientists at LG. I’ve wanted one for a while, but the smallest they did was a 55 inch, which is far too big. They’ve just released a 48 inch, which tempted me in to go for it. Paid for it with my Debit card, but don’t tell DUK, I only send £25 a month to them.😉

In other news, I got a report from my recent abdo scan. My pancreas is heavily calcified, and very atrophic. ( As if I didn’t know.) As a by the way, they also said my left hip was grossly arthritic. I need a new one, but I don’t get any pain from it unless I twist the hip. I’ll arrange a telephone appointment with the doc to refer me to an orthopod. Might as well get it done privately, I’ll let you know what happens.

Don’t know what everyone else is doing, but I’ll be watching footie. Yesterday I watched Blackburn demolish Wycombe Wanderers 5-0. Could have been more. Sorry to any Wycombe fans, but that won’t be their heaviest defeat this season. Out of their depth, methinks.

Have a good day, gang, and stay safe.🙂

 

[rebrascora]

Well, sadly I can't claim a hat trick. My reading this morning at 7.30 when the Libre alarm went off was 4.4 so I snoozed on (I would of course have been out of bed like a shot it had registered another 5.2). Woke up again at 8.11am with a reading of 3.9 which was soon fixed by DP without any need for hypo treatment.
Damp and dismal here today but at least it isn't cold. Been out and done about 6 miles swinging the legs although I kept it to a steady yomp today as I had one too many glasses of rose last night and didn't feel up to jogging.
Going to make a real effort to eat dinner earlier tonight. I think a roast chicken dinner is on the cards.

@Michael12421 Nice to see a good middle ground reading from you today. Hope all is well with you.

@Anitram Congrats Martin on yet another House Special! You make it look far too easy!

@eggyg Congrats to you too on your news of an addition to the family. Hope everything goes smoothly for them.

 

[miguel81]

@Michael12421 Nice to see a good middle ground reading from you today. Hope all is well with you.

Thank you very much. My sight isn't any better, just have to hang on until October 2nd. tho' I am not expecting much.

The xenophobic peasants around here have attacked again, tyres punctured for the 8th time. I should buy shares in Goodyear!

Never mind about the hat trick, there is always tomorrow.

 

[SueEK]

@Michael12421 Nice to see a good middle ground reading from you today. Hope all is well with you.

Thank you very much. My sight isn't any better, just have to hang on until October 2nd. tho' I am not expecting much.

The xenophobic peasants around here have attacked again, tyres punctured for the 8th time. I should buy shares in Goodyear!

Never mind about the hat trick, there is always tomorrow.

What on earth do you mean, tyres punctured for the 8th time - do you mean the locals and if so why would they do that or I have taken it the wrong way?

 

[miguel81]

No it is the right way. These villages have extremely narrow roads and I live in one, vehicles can't pass so you have to park in wider streets. There is one family here who have 3 cars, 3 motorcycles and one quad bike and they think that you can't park opposite their house because it stops them from doing so and also think that they 'own' the street. Police are useless, all you get is the ubiquitous shrug of the shoulders if you complain. In future I will park outside of the police station, not that it will do much good as hey only 'work' from 8.30 until14.30 Monday to Friday.

 

[eggyg]

Good morning folks🙂

I woke on 5.9, after sleeping for a short while in the night on 2.8, so 5.9 is the effect of three jelly babies, after which I went straight back to sleep, confident that I would be safe. Cue smug feeling...😎

My calculations the other day were erroneous, mind. I’ve finished the new Cormoran Strike book, all 800 Kindle pages of it. No spoilers, folks. It’s great fun. The thing is, the hardback version is also 800 pages long, so if you don’t like detective stories you’ve got a handy doorstop.

I’ve got a new Kindle, a Kindle Oasis. It’s as light as a feather, and has bells and whistles that I haven’t yet explored. Costs twice as much as a routine Paperwhite. That means I’m paying for fresh air. Half the weight, and double the cost. Go figure🙄

I’m spending money like it’s going out of fashion at the moment. Next thing arriving on Saturday is a nice new OLED TV from the mad scientists at LG. I’ve wanted one for a while, but the smallest they did was a 55 inch, which is far too big. They’ve just released a 48 inch, which tempted me in to go for it. Paid for it with my Debit card, but don’t tell DUK, I only send £25 a month to them.😉

In other news, I got a report from my recent abdo scan. My pancreas is heavily calcified, and very atrophic. ( As if I didn’t know.) As a by the way, they also said my left hip was grossly arthritic. I need a new one, but I don’t get any pain from it unless I twist the hip. I’ll arrange a telephone appointment with the doc to refer me to an orthopod. Might as well get it done privately, I’ll let you know what happens.

Don’t know what everyone else is doing, but I’ll be watching footie. Yesterday I watched Blackburn demolish Wycombe Wanderers 5-0. Could have been more. Sorry to any Wycombe fans, but that won’t be their heaviest defeat this season. Out of their depth, methinks.

Have a good day, gang, and stay safe.🙂

Well Mike sounds like you’re “ skiers” like us! Spending the kids inheritance! You can’t take it with you. My ma in law has hung on to her money for years so there was “ something for the boys”. None of the “ boys” are badly off at all and we’re sick of telling her to spend it. Now at 83 she keeps saying I wish I’d done that blah blah blah. Of course she now can’t do it. Spend, spend, spend, that’s what I say!