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George Foreman We Love You

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DeusXM said:
Ah, but I'm not challenging your personal choice - eat what you like. I'm just taking issue with you describing my particular choice as apparently bad for my heart, when both the firsthand evidence (my numbers) and the secondary research (the wider studies) strongly say otherwise. The vast majority of the population may indeed choose to reduce their fat intake, but if you read the article I posted, you'd see that's almost entirely based on suspect studies that were given undue credence in public policy 40 years ago.

My position has always been people should eat whatever they like, provided it delivers the blood sugar and other health goals they require, and that any claims they make about diets be factually accurate. If you want to describe fat as unhealthy, or talk about my heart's discontent, don't be surprised about having that inaccuracy challenged! 🙂
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Well I have read through all of my previous posts in this thread and can not find a single reference to your personal choice to chump as much fat as you can chomp on being bad for you. I did however find several references to it being bad for me. Hang on a second I'll have another look..............no I still can't find a comment referring to you making very poor life choices. Just my own lifestyle. Ah well never mind. A quick check of my own on Dr Google does offer some studies showing the high fat bunk you have bought into might not be quite as healthy as you appear to believe but I'll leave that one for now. The fact that you are not challenging my personal dietary choices is indeed most gracious of you. Had you suggested anything else I might have thought you to be very arrogant by stuffing the high fat mantra down my throat again but now I can see that this would be completely wrong of me.


Nah tell you what here are a few links just for the hell of it:


http://www.pcrm.org/nbBlog/index.php/these-12-studies-show-saturated-fat-is-not-just-a-heart-hazard


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/07/fat-not-bad-studies-misleading-scientists-say


It took me about 2 minutes to find these and I dare say that if I looked a bit further I may or may not find more quite frankly I ain't really bothered too much 😉
 
Just as an aside, the Inuit people have a very high fat diet. Indeed, they eat Narwhal blubber neat, because it contains high levels of vitamin C. They don't get much in the way of heart disease. Maybe it's the low carb diet. Who knows?
 
mikeyB said:
Just as an aside, the Inuit people have a very high fat diet. Indeed, they eat Narwhal blubber neat, because it contains high levels of vitamin C. They don't get much in the way of heart disease. Maybe it's the low carb diet. Who knows?
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As an average the incidence of diabetes in this race of people is approximately 3 times the rest of the population living there. I heartily applaud your testimony to healthy living Mike. If you wish to cite examples then you might choose to look elsewhere in the world
 
How about we all just drop this subject please? If you read through this thread I have at no point questioned your own individual choices to eat what the hell you choose. I merely suggest that as far I am concerned it really isn't for me. I was rather shocked at how much c**p which you are all free to call excellent, wonderful healthy c**p if you so choose came out of 2 pieces of bacon that I grilled with my new cooker. I don't wish to indulge in eating greasy fat. It really isn't difficult to comprehend. I just do not 'buy into' this fad diet, neither does my doctor, neither does my nurse. I am sorry if you all see it as the Holy Grail I personally do not. For every study you can summon up that extols what you may feel are it's many virtues I am sure that I can find one that warns of its many woes. Eat what you like and may it bring you much contentment but FFS because I have an opinion which differs from yours it doesn't make either right or wrong :(


My source of reference for the Inuit Tribes

http://guidelines.diabetes.ca/browse/chapter38
 
Mmmm...crispy bacon. My favourite.

A vegan friend has just sent me this link to a recipe for fake bacon http://ohmyveggies.com/the-best-vegan-blt-with-eggplant-bacon/. I'm going to buy some liquid smoke and give it a try. If it tastes anything like real bacon it will be my holy grail.

NB: I'm trying to follow a low carb/full fat diet based on the eminently sensible advice to 'eat real food, not too much, mostly veg'.
 
I don't know why everyone gets so worked up about what other people choose to not eat! I'm a meat eater (including the fat) and my husband is vegetarian. We lead an harmonious (ahem) life because we don't care about what the other one has on their plate! As long as we aren't eating it then it really isnt significant.

I used to love my George Foreman grill! Cleaning it was therapeutic too!
 
Diabeticliberty said:
My secretary suggested that as I am now single once more I might consider a George Foreman fat reducing grill. She sold me on the concept that it was bomb proof, idiot proof, burn your own house down proof and most importantly I was very unlikely to give myself food poisoning cooking with it. I have in the last week chucked just about everything in it. Steak, chicken, pork loins, salmon, trout, sea trout, cod and prawns. I have found that chopping up fruit and vegetables and just tossing them in the grill with the meat offers some surprisingly decent results. Last night after I got home I decided to chuck a bacon butty together which it cooks in about 5 minutes. The real eye opener for me is putting the grill on a slight angle with the fat catching dish below it just how much crappy fat is in food. This appears particularly bad with bacon and sausages. I have never been massively into bacon or sausage and I am really glad having seen what drains out of it when cooking. The upshot is George Foreman gets a massive thumbs up. Not only can he deliver a right cross making you feel like you have been hit in the face with an anvil he also endorses a half decent grilling machine that may help me from starving myself silly 🙂
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I like the bit about the Prawns 😎. Not much fat in seafood (not battered fish & chips)
 
HOBIE said:
battered fish & chips
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Oh man!!!! I'm salivating at the mere mention..... Now if the US acquired a taste for real Fish & Chips like they are slowly doing with Curry.....
 
HOBIE said:
I like the bit about the Prawns 😎. Not much fat in seafood (not battered fish & chips)
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Hola Hobeyman, you are back with us. I hope you had a great time? Loads and loads and loads of mischief of course?
 
Martin Canty said:
Oh man!!!! I'm salivating at the mere mention..... Now if the US acquired a taste for real Fish & Chips like they are slowly doing with Curry.....
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Just watch the Trump debacle on Channel 4 News. It seems that all Americans want is blood :(
 
Which one? The one where he is calling for Hillary's assassination?

God help us if he gets in!!!!
 
Martin Canty said:
Which one? The one where he is calling for Hillary's assassination?

God help us if he gets in!!!!
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Yes that one. Then he went on to say that the press were twisting his words. I saw a clip if him speaking. The words are very clear. The man is not just dangerous he is bloody deranged. Channel 4 News then interviewed a member of the NRA who said that it wasn't Trump's fault it was Clinton's fault for having armed guards around her all the time. I don't get it?
 
Funnily enough I'm a member of the NRA......
Me too, I just don't get why Trump has such a fanatical following, I know many otherwise normal Republicans who just put their blinkers on when it comes to Trump..... I guess he's a bit like Farge but on steroids!!!
 
I shoot shotguns for clay pigeons. We are extremely restricted as to what and how we can shoot and quite rightly so. I don't understand how the gun manufacturers in the States seem to frighten the life out of American politicians. It appears to me that the gun manufacturers form a lot of US Policy on a load of different issues. I don't understand it?
 
Trap is my favorite discipline..... The restrictions on gun ownership would be tough for me if ever I were to come back to the UK, though I think they are a little lax here in many areas.

Politics is all about money, follow the money trail..... At the last elections the Koch brothers (industrialists) bought the Senate.... The Republicans are scared of Trump because, in large part, he cannot be controlled. Now if he were a Democrat with an ounce of common sense & a grip on reality I'd be all over him.
 
I read a little on the BBC News 24 Website this afternoon where he has made vague suggestions as to not being opposed to launching preemptive nuclear strikes. I considered booking a seat on the first Virgin Intergalactic Flight to the planet Mars
 
Back on the subject of clays Martin, I am not the biggest fan of down the line as I find it requires the shooter to have a complete lack of imagination. Autoball is far more interesting but my first love is English sporting and the FITASC and maybe a little bit of skeet. I have guns with 32" barrels so not the best skeet guns in the world but I do ok shooting skeet with them. Sporting is where they really come into their own.
 
When many of us had just turned 18 our physics teacher had a brief word with us about how important it was for us to vote . He'd been through WWII and we had a lot of respect for him. He told us that in a participation democracy you must participate...and whatever the result you simply had to suck it up. I remembered this when the disastrous Brexit results were coming in. He also told us that people get the leaders they deserve. Perhaps, right now, the USA deserves Trump. On a more positive note...the powerful business interests that control politics will do whatever is necessary to protect profits...and nuclear strikes would play havoc with international trade.
 
Sorry...while I was typing you moved on.
 
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