Fed up

[Pumper_Sue]

Yeah I know but it's finding something else that I can have with it that's lower carb is my main problem I enjoy my sandwiches for my lunch usually but I don't think that would be a great idea, sorry to hear you are coeliac as well but from what I've seen on supermarket websites there are much more products available now than there used to be x

Well thanks for being so dismissive.

 

[Kaylz]

Well thanks for being so dismissive.

Oh no please don't take it that way, that's not what I intended at all, I just meant that there were more things available, I'm so sorry if I upset you I never meant to at all please forgive me, from what I know it's another autoimmune condition, if you don't mind me asking were you diagnosed with this before or after you were diagnosed with diabetes, and please know that I never meant to be hurtful in any way hun x

 

[Kaylz]

Have the kit kat chunky, take the insulin for it and then monitor your BGs. If they go high then have a think about what to do differently next time. You may find you need to bolus earlier than normal or split the bolus. You have to be prepared to accept that they may go a little haywire until you get the hang of it.

I've been where you are now - so worried about my BGs going high and desperately trying to be 'good' (whatever that is). As others have said, your diet has to be sustainable - otherwise the condition is a lot harder to accept.

PS - I have a chocolate bar of some kind most days - it is part of my putting on weight regime following two bouts of major surgery 🙂 (I'm not suggesting you do the same )

I've done it before and it worked out ok actually just wasn't with a sandwich and I'm only around 7st 7lb so I can afford a few chocolate bars 🙂 x

 

[Lucy Honeychurch]

Have the sandwich and the chunky kit kat tomorrow 🙂
Tonight I had a chocolate pudding and cream, it was lovely lol!
Why won't you have more than 3 units with a meal?

 

[Kaylz]

The course DAFNE stands for Dose Adjustment For Normal Eating. That's self explanatory. You don't need to deny yourself anything as long as you know how to inject for it. My weakness is potato cakes. I love them. I've trialled and errored to inject for them and finally got it right.

Using insulin isn't a bad thing. It's a necessary thing to keep us alive. It's hard to get your head round. Some days I still don't get it. But if you want something, allow yourself it 🙂 denying yourself it will make you miserable and crave it more.

What are potoato cakes are they triangular in shape if so we call then tattie scones not sure if it's the same or not haha there is no DAFNE near me and I never got to ask about any local ones when I saw the DSN last week so I might email and ask her, I do carb count but only relying on information in front of me at the moment x

 

[Kaylz]

Have the sandwich and the chunky kit kat tomorrow 🙂
Tonight I had a chocolate pudding and cream, it was lovely lol!
Why won't you have more than 3 units with a meal?

That comes to nearly 60g carbs though haha, I'm glad you enjoyed your pudding 🙂 I haven't had any proper pudding since New Years day and I don't know I just think that I'm going to go wrong in one way or another if I take more and it is really starting to get to me and get me down I really wish I could be like all you guys and just say f**k it I want this today and I'm going to have it but I get nervous, plus since getting this half unit pen I'm fine when my mums here but I get all panicky when I'm on my own remembering it goes up in halfs and it get's that bad that I start shaking etc, it happened as soon as my mum left the house today that bad that I actually went and checked I wasn't hypo x

 

[trophywench]

Kaylz - SO WHAT if it is 60/70/80g carbs? SO WHAT if your BG shoots up into double figures for an hour or two?

You are NOT going to either suddenly drop dead or your legs fall off etc etc, from doing this occasionally. The important thing is - not to do it all the time - and you won't!

@Mikew - your little children's birthdays are exactly the same as your own at this stage in their and your lives - Carb Free days - ie not carb free of course and need appropriate insulin doses - but normal rules don't apply to them, they are 'one-offs' same as Xmas Day and eg significant wedding anniversaries and later - children's eg weddings will be. This grandma's life is littered with such days - and my grandchildren got used to - and liked doing it! - wrapping a piece of cake up in a serviette, for Grandma to enjoy later, cos after all that other lovely food, she couldn't manage another crumb right now, darling! She had usually managed a nice choice of savoury stuff AND a dish of trifle by this stage LOL

And of course, THE only way to discover the appropriate dose for birthday cake, is to try it again with a different dose! - as many times as you ABSOLUTELY need to LOL

 

[khskel]

@Kaylz go for it and don't let obsession with food take over your life. I remember one of the leaflets I was given when first diagnosed said 'Deny yourself nothing'. I've cut down massively in the amount of sweet stuff I have and don't snack between meals but if I want a pudding after my tea I have one.

 

[Amigo]

@Kaylz, you're just suffering the natural anxiety associated with a new and complex condition which frightens you so you're being mega harsh on yourself. It's a bit like when we first pass our driving tests and are frightened to go too fast or push the boundaries. But all that eases in time as the situation becomes more everyday and routine. I'm sure that will happen with your eating routines when you feel more in control, know more and don't fear every little hike and drop. Just give yourself time and push the boundaries a little bit at a time until you feel comfortable having and being able to cope with those little luxuries you miss.

Eventually you'll feel able to give yourself permission but we are all constrained by our personalities and it could be you're a naturally cautious person who fears getting things wrong. All will be well in time 😛

 

[paul.johnson]

@Kaylz.. Morning. If I had only three units of rapid I would waste away lol, be starving hungry,
morning I have 9 units for 3 slices toast
lunch 8 units for 4 slices bread ( sandwich )
tea usually 12units to 18units depends on how many carbs I have,
I only come in on the scales at 10 1/2 stone,for which I have been since year dot. lol
I'm not saying increase yours by that much as everybody is different and there bodies burn carbs differently, But as long as I count the carbs and take the correct amount of rapid, No probs, I just make sure most of carbs are good ones, The occasional cream cake lol
As long as its not everyday,live a little, lol😎

 

[mikeyB]

Yup. when folk say "Can you eat that?" I just wave my pen at them. Yah boo.🙂

 

[khskel]

So @Kaylz did you go for the kit kat and sandwich?

 

[Kaylz]

So @Kaylz did you go for the kit kat and sandwich?

No I just went for the sandwich simply for the reason I have 2 squares lindt 90% with my cuppy in the afternoon and I had some cocoa this morning, thought that might be seen as terrible if I'd had the kit kat as well, when the lindt is done though I will have the kit kat 🙂 x

 

[khskel]

With figures like yours you've earned your Kit Kat

 

[Kaylz]

With figures like yours you've earned your Kit Kat

I feel like i NEED that kit kat haha, I can leave a normal one easily but it's just something about the peanut butter one it's so much better 🙂 have you had any treats yourself today Khskel x

 

[khskel]

Couple of squares of 85% and a chicken salad wrap and fries tonight

 

[Sara W]

I was getting obsessive and depressed for the first three weeks too - truly grieving the loss of so many foods I love. But the DN told me not to be so hard on myself - to have a few carbs, just enough to satisfy me, and to up the insulin accordingly. You seem to be on relatively low doses so I guess you can do this too.

All my horrible symptoms have gone - the endless peeing, raging thirst, craving for endless sweet stuff, and utter lethargy - and I feel generally quite well now. I'm 8st 7, which is a few lbs up on my weight for most of my adult life (pre menopause), which I need so as not to look too cadaverous. I was so dehydrated a month ago I looked dreadful, all wrinkly... I refuse to worry about a few high readings, esp when I think what state I must have been in before diagnosis.

I'm taking on board that upping the insulin to lead a fairly normal life isn't a disaster!

 

[Kaylz]

I know I can do it if I want I'm carb counting so not on set units like you although from what I think you've said previously are you not on a mixed insulin, I know how fine and easy it is to just chuck things into my meal if I want to but it's just fear no matter how many times my DSN has said go for it or everyone on here willing me to do it, I'm half expecting for one of the members from here finding out where I live knocking on my door, shoving insulin in me and shoving a chocolate bar down my throat then coming on here to say I've done it haha x

 

[AJLang]

Now that's an idea xx

 

[Ditto]

You don't need to lose weight so surely you can eat what you fancy? Just measure and allow for it. Don't listen to anybody else making you feel guilty, just go with your gut feeling and sensible information you get from this forum.

I know how you feel, I just want to pig out and can't now. I just think to myself not to be so disgusting. This is what comes of having no religion these days, back in the day gluttony was considered a deadly sin. 😉 I'm the biggest sinner there is.