Bovaer to be added to cattle feed

[Bruce Stephens]

Then look up what humans contribute to this with the belching & farts.& it looks like a little “side step” where we take the blame for just agriculture?

Humans are much smaller than cows and we have a wildly different diet and digestive system, so there's no particular reason to think we excrete methane even in proportion to our size. I suspect we excrete much less (like other omnivores).

 

[Satan’s little helper]

Humans are much smaller than cows and we have a wildly different diet and digestive system, so there's no particular reason to think we excrete methane even in proportion to our size. I suspect we excrete much less (like other omnivores).

Just a flavour of my train of thought. But hey, I’m not a cow. 😉

FIRST THEY CAME
By Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.

 

[Satan’s little helper]

I’m thinking more along the lines of “dry cat food?” Convenient for the owner. But a potential risk to the longevity of the animal. (Kidney failure being one such documented result.)

 

[CliffH]

I’m thinking more along the lines of “dry cat food?” Convenient for the owner. But a potential risk to the longevity of the animal. (Kidney failure being one such documented result.)

Yes, 'convenience' versus 'safety' is a pertinent trade-off - especially in terms of 'convenience foods' 🙄.

 

[Satan’s little helper]

Yes, 'convenience' versus 'safety' is a pertinent trade-off - especially in terms of 'convenience foods' 🙄.

I was on another part of the internet the other night regarding an “influencer” with an ethical food choice who had this cat? He “supported” the cat’s sharing in the owner’s diatary choice ignoring the vet on such matters. 3 years later back at the vet, kidneys screwed. Sadly, he publicly announced he had to “put it to sleep.” Ye cannee make this stuff up.

 

[CliffH]

I was on another part of the internet the other night regarding an “influencer” with an ethical food choice who had this cat? He “supported” the cat’s sharing in the owner’s diatary choice ignoring the vet on such matters. 3 years later back at the vet, kidneys screwed. Sadly, he publicly announced he had to “put it to sleep.” Ye cannee make this stuff up.

Was the cat making an 'informed' 'unwise decision', though, within the meaning of the Mental Capacity Act?

 

[Bruce Stephens]

what benefit is there to cows taking 3nop?

Presumably none. Cows get less protection than humans, I'm afraid.

 

[CliffH]

Presumably none. Cows get less protection than humans, I'm afraid.

 

[Satan’s little helper]

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Just wonder if all competitors are running on C3H7NO4 in this event?

 

[Amity Island]

When it causes more harm than benefit.

But there are no benefits.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

But there are no benefits.

No benefits to what?

Are you referring to Bovaer? In that case there aren't intended to be any benefits for the cows, the benefit is that they'll produce less methane (while leaving the milk unchanged, as far as they can tell). I think the regulatory information also mentioned that there didn't seem to be any harm to the cows; I presume if there were harms those would need to be considered (even if we have a lower standard of care for cows it's not no care at all, and there'd likely be economic issues then anyway).

 

[beating_my_betes]

even if we have a lower standard of care for cows it's not no care at all

What is this "care", of which you speak?

 

[Amity Island]

Are you referring to Bovaer? In that case there aren't intended to be any benefits for the cows.

Yes, to the cows and us as consumers of cows and cow products/dairy.

If there are no benefits, then how can we justify feeding cows 3nop?

 

[Bruce Stephens]

If there are no benefits, then how can we justify feeding cows 3nop?

The benefit is that we can reduce methane output from cows for (apparently) low cost and low risk. Low risk because it seems not to harm the cows and the milk seems unchanged.

 

[Amity Island]

The benefit is that we can reduce methane output from cows for (apparently) low cost and low risk. Low risk because it seems not to harm the cows and the milk seems unchanged.

There is no need for cows to consume 3nop.

 

[Satan’s little helper]

There is no need for cows to consume 3nop.

Cows are what they are. 3nop is just a “sticking plaster.” (In the grand scheme of things. short sighted. Like “add blue in diesels. A quick buck.) lol, there was probably no issue since the human population explosion & Industrial Revolution to cater for it. the covid jab, just like any other vaccine, If I catch it? Lessens the impact. I have flu jabs shortens the recovery. My body, my choice. Where I work. If I get “something.” They have no problem sending me home. It’s just too dense a population. No one seems to have the balls to suggest a discussion & debate on human birth management on this spinning limited resourced rock.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

There is no need for cows to consume 3nop.

Well obviously not. But there's some benefit (to the environment) if they do. We could instead do other things to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but this particular intervention seems attractive: it's easy and cheap.