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MackemLad said:
I don't mind you asking you at all, I'd say I'm considerably overweight, I'm not entirely sure what I weigh though as I never weigh myself and I don't have scales, I guess I'll need to change that haha. Thanks for the advice
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Well there you have it, you know what to do, if in doubt look up work of Prof Taylor & Newcastle Diet.
 
MackemLad said:
I wouldn't say I know what to do, I'm trying to learn though, all these reolies have been helpful in educating me
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You will be more informed once you look at Newcastle study that's for sure.

Told wife about it when she got pre diabetes diagnosis, although she didnt do strict protocol of that diet she did do calorie reduction diet through Slimming World where she lost 5 stone in total to get down to normal weight & reverse diagnosis..
 
Information on Roy Taylor's work here if you want to find out more @MackemLad. Also worth asking your GP or the district nurse if they offer any support on weight loss, if that's what you decide to do. It's patchy what's offered in each health authority, but it's worth asking.
Look after yourself and keep asking questions! Sarah
 
I’ve had to lose 5st (since September) to get my blood glucose down to normal levels, I eat low carb but what my nurse classes as low carb isn’t the same as others I eat 120g carb per day I couldn’t cope with the super low carb that some people do because everyone is so different that no one approach works for everyone and the fact that your so young makes a big difference to well it does to me anyway be proactive you’ve got an early warning but don’t panic some modest changes should do the trick. I really had to address my weight and deep down I knew that anyway regardless of the diabetes, luckily all my other stats were great blood pressure, cholesterol etc all spot on.
 
Cheers for all the replies.

My head is absolutely mashed off doing alot of research haha, I appreciate a reading of 42 isn't 'that' bad, I'm not really sure how much of a change I'd need to make in order to make a difference.

A small step I've done is stopped putting sugar in my coffee, any other juice / pop etc is already sugar free.

Looking at ideas on things to eat, looking at calories, carbs, saturated fat is exhausting etc, all I've came up with so far is:

Fish, brocolli, cauliflower, corn on the cob
Chicken brocolli, cauliflower, corn on the cob
A salad bag with a tin of tuna
A 2 egg omellete with mushroom and spring onion

I'd just alternate between the fish and chicken for a main meal haha. Exciting eh
 
You are not looking for a huge change in HbA1C to get to normal range but your main aim is not to allow it to increase so pushing you into the diabetic zone.
You really only need to make some modest changes by cutting portions size of the higher carb foods you were having. If you previously were eating beef, pork, lamb as well as chicken no reason not to still have those, but it is the foods like potatoes, rice, pasta, bread and breakfast cereals where you want to be careful of so have 2 potatoes instead of 4 or half the amount of rice and pasta but have more sauce or curry and more of the vegetables or salad. Have 1 slice of bread rather than 2.
Eggs and cheese are low carb as are nuts and fruits like berries.
High meat content sausages and bacon are also low carb.
I still eat a great variety of foods but just avoid the high carb tasteless things and have plenty of tasty meals.
 
You don't have to do everything at once, that'll bake your mind! Look at one meal at a time and make a note of what works and what doesn't work for you. You can expand the meals you're happy with over time, and bulk cook meals like stews or soup and put some in the freezer for another day. Working out calories etc is a faff, maybe start with a smaller dinner plate first and see if you can do smaller portions that way instead?

What about doing roasted Mediterranean veg (peppers, onions, cherry tomatoes, mushrooms, broccoli?), with chicken or fish, a little bit of olive oil? Chop up the veg, put it in a baking tray with a tiny bit of oil, and the chicken pieces (perhaps marinated in curry spices and yogurt, or with a teaspoon of pesto?) and roast in the oven until it's done. And maybe serve with a spoon of natural yogurt with some mint sauce in. Or do kebabs, and serve them with salad?
I do broccoli florets with curry paste and quorn (you could use chicken?). Put the florets, a spoon of Pataks/supermarket brand curry paste, and chicken into a lunch box and put the lid on. Shake the box to make the paste cover the food. Bake on a baking tray until the chicken and florets are cooked. Your lunch box will forever be a turmeric shade of yellow, so don't use a nice one!
 
Maybe judging from the above couple of replies I may of been going a tad overboard?

I'll be sure to have less pasta, rice etc, are there better alternatives like brown or wholemeal?

I don't eat much bread and things like that, I made a conscious decision to cut bread out and use wraps instead, but apparantly they're bad too.
 
Any grain is normally high in carbs but low in nourishment - I don't eat corn on the cob or sweetcorn as it is grain, and made my numbers shoot up when tested.
 
MackemLad said:
Maybe judging from the above couple of replies I may of been going a tad overboard?

I'll be sure to have less pasta, rice etc, are there better alternatives like brown or wholemeal?

I don't eat much bread and things like that, I made a conscious decision to cut bread out and use wraps instead, but apparantly they're bad too.
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Edamame bean or black bean pasta is much lower in carbs than either normal pasta, wholemeal or otherwise.
 
MackemLad said:
That's brilliant, well done you! Did you do the 800calorie diet?
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I did the 800 cal diet thing but also put some of the weight back on last year. That’s not resulted in a corresponding jump in my HbA1C up to the levels it was at when diagnosed however.
I’m now back on the shakes for a while in order to ease my HbA1C down a bit and drop a few pounds.

I’ve got a thread about it in the weight loss section.
 
ColinUK said:
I did the 800 cal diet thing but also put some of the weight back on last year. That’s not resulted in a corresponding jump in my HbA1C up to the levels it was at when diagnosed however.
I’m now back on the shakes for a while in order to ease my HbA1C down a bit and drop a few pounds.

I’ve got a thread about it in the weight loss section.
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I'll have a read through, thanks mate
 
I did 800 calories for 12 weeks then went on to 1500 I’m 6 months down the road and my hba1c has gone from 89 to 38 I’ve never gone super low carb I’ve always remained around 120g per day I’ve gone from 18 and a half stone to just over 13 I’m 5ft7 and age 38 I was a dress size 22/24 and now I’m a 12/14 but I was heavily diabetic at diagnosis with a reading of 89 and at a massive risk of complications with a raised level of 42 like many people are saying simple modest changes really will work for you. I know everyone’s nhs treatment is different but up in the north east my care is outstanding, if you are in any way like I was (feasting on rubbish all the time)cutting down on the c**p (sweets, chocolate, biscuits etc) will make a big difference and whatever your current intake of carb is, cutting your portion of that by half will most likely put your blood sugar levels right back down and I bet you would lose weight as a bonus to just to put it into perspective a breakfast for me of low fat Greek yoghurt and 80g strawberries (which isn’t a huge amount when you actually see it) is 18g carb so a super low carb diet is ridiculously tough for some people it definitely would be for me and I honestly don’t think with a raised level of 42 you don’t need to do anything super drastic honestly try not to panic to much, easier said than done I know and I’m a fine one to talk cos I still have moments of total panic
, be mindful and make those small changes but not fearful x
 
MackemLad said:
Maybe judging from the above couple of replies I may of been going a tad overboard?

I'll be sure to have less pasta, rice etc, are there better alternatives like brown or wholemeal?

I don't eat much bread and things like that, I made a conscious decision to cut bread out and use wraps instead, but apparantly they're bad too.
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doesn't make any difference if its brown or wholemeal, its still full of carbs. Beige food needs to be eaten infrequently from now on... you can substitute cauliflower rice, konjac pasta, or ribbons of cabbage for pasta.
 
sarahb83 said:
I did 800 calories for 12 weeks then went on to 1500 I’m 6 months down the road and my hba1c has gone from 89 to 38 I’ve never gone super low carb I’ve always remained around 120g per day I’ve gone from 18 and a half stone to just over 13 I’m 5ft7 and age 38 I was a dress size 22/24 and now I’m a 12/14 but I was heavily diabetic at diagnosis with a reading of 89 and at a massive risk of complications with a raised level of 42 like many people are saying simple modest changes really will work for you. I know everyone’s nhs treatment is different but up in the north east my care is outstanding, if you are in any way like I was (feasting on rubbish all the time)cutting down on the c**p (sweets, chocolate, biscuits etc) will make a big difference and whatever your current intake of carb is, cutting your portion of that by half will most likely put your blood sugar levels right back down and I bet you would lose weight as a bonus to just to put it into perspective a breakfast for me of low fat Greek yoghurt and 80g strawberries (which isn’t a huge amount when you actually see it) is 18g carb so a super low carb diet is ridiculously tough for some people it definitely would be for me and I honestly don’t think with a raised level of 42 you don’t need to do anything super drastic honestly try not to panic to much, easier said than done I know and I’m a fine one to talk cos I still have moments of total panic
, be mindful and make those small changes but not fearful x
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I think the biggest problem with my diet, judging by the replies, is probably coffee, and portion size of carbs.

I drink a fair amount of coffee, with 3 sugars, I've already knocked the sugar on the head.

Today I'm having an omellete with 2 eggs and mushroom, maybe Hoy some tuna in

And later on, I'm going to have some fish and veg, Salmon, brocolli, cauliflower.

I'm also from the northeast!
 
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