Almonds and avocado... saturated fat.

[Sharron1]

I wonder if someone can advise me. I eat avoc and almonds . Yum. Yesterday I was talking with a new nurse at the surgery (because she is new I am being kind). She told me avos and almonds are very high in saturated fats and I should avoid them as they can contribute to an increase in cholestrol.

My undersranding is that our liver produces cholestrol and while reducing additional saturated fats ( not eliminating them) is sensible our body needs a level of cholestrol. But not to have avos and almonds. Not convinced about that.

 

[Tdm]

My diabetes dietician suggested avocados and nuts as sources of healthy fats. Mind you, she probably didn't know how many I'd go on to eat

 

[harbottle]

Almonds aren't that high in saturated fat, not if you eat a small amount (Which is all you need).

They seem to be considered quite healthy:

Top 5 health benefits of almonds

Discover what makes almonds so good for you, from their fat content to the truth about whether almonds can help with weight loss

www.bbcgoodfood.com

My problem is that I can't stop eating them!

 

[Tdm]

Of, and british heart foundation advocates almonds and abocados too...and says they are low in saturates. Though you do realise someone will now pop up suggesting a pint of cream a day is the pinnacle of health....

 

[Tdm]

Almonds aren't that high in saturated fat, not if you eat a small amount (Which is all you need).

They seem to be considered quite healthy:

Top 5 health benefits of almonds

Discover what makes almonds so good for you, from their fat content to the truth about whether almonds can help with weight loss

www.bbcgoodfood.com

My problem is that I can't stop eating them!

I do overdo it on almond flour! Which was fine when i needed to put weight back on, but now i am a bit heavier i really ouht to moderate my intake of keto snacks

 

[harbottle]

I do overdo it on almond flour! Which was fine when i needed to put weight back on, but now i am a bit heavier i really ouht to moderate my intake of keto snacks

I just had a bread roll made from Almond flour, It was very nice!

The article I posted to link to says they don't make you out on weight! I'm of to open bag and drink a pint of double cream with them!

 

[Sharron1]

Almonds aren't that high in saturated fat, not if you eat a small amount (Which is all you need).

They seem to be considered quite healthy:

Top 5 health benefits of almonds

Discover what makes almonds so good for you, from their fat content to the truth about whether almonds can help with weight loss

www.bbcgoodfood.com

My problem is that I can't stop eating Them '

The small amount thing is the problem. They are delicious

 

[bulkbiker]

She told me avos and almonds are very high in saturated fats and I should avoid them as they can contribute to an increase in cholestrol.

dietary cholesterol has little to no effect on blood cholesterol levels. That has been known for decades.

 

[harbottle]

dietary cholesterol has little to no effect on blood cholesterol levels. That has been known for decades.

The OP was talking about dietary saturated fats, not dietary cholesterol. It is indeed known that the liver compensates for dietary cholesterol (i.e. Eggs) by reducing its own production. However, that is not relevant here as we are discussing saturated fats.

 

[bulkbiker]

The OP was talking about dietary saturated fats, not dietary cholesterol. It is indeed known that the liver compensates for dietary cholesterol (i.e. Eggs) by reducing its own production. However, that is not relevant here as we are discussing saturated fats.

And there is zero proof (note proof) that saturated fat is in any way "bad" for humans.

 

[harbottle]

And there is zero proof (note proof) that saturated fat is in any way "bad" for humans.

That's a different argument - as you deflect the argument around to something else.

 

[bulkbiker]

That's a different argument - as usual you deflect the argument around to something else.

This was in the very first post

" She told me avos and almonds are very high in saturated fats and I should avoid them as they can contribute to an increase in cholestrol."

Where precisely am I "deflecting"

 

[Eddy Edson]

I wonder if someone can advise me. I eat avoc and almonds . Yum. Yesterday I was talking with a new nurse at the surgery (because she is new I am being kind). She told me avos and almonds are very high in saturated fats and I should avoid them as they can contribute to an increase in cholestrol.

My undersranding is that our liver produces cholestrol and while reducing additional saturated fats ( not eliminating them) is sensible our body needs a level of cholestrol. But not to have avos and almonds. Not convinced about that.

Your cells make all the cholesterol you need. You need very very little actually circulating in your blood; it's almost entirely a waste product.

Almonds have sod-all sat fat. Avocados have a relatively large amount for a plant thing but they also have a large amount of unsaturated fats which are protective against CVD risks. So the net effect of avocados is good, unless I guess you regularly chomp your way through three of them at a time or something.

 

[bulkbiker]

You need very very little actually circulating in your blood; it's almost entirely a waste product.

So but this is just wrong.. cholesterol is hugely important to the heathy functioning of the human body.

Without it we'd all be dead.

That's why our livers make it.

 

[Eddy Edson]

So but this is just wrong.. cholesterol is hugely important to the heathy functioning of the human body.

Without it we'd all be dead.

That's why our livers make it.

Nope

 

[bulkbiker]

Nope

What precisely is "nope" in what I said?

 

[Eddy Edson]

What precisely is "nope" in what I said?

The implication that circulating (LDL) cholesterol from liver production is important.

If you want, you can easily confirm that expert consensus is that cells, including brain cells, make the cholesterol they need. This review piece has some useful summaries and references: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666667722000551

3.5. Cells do not need LDL-C
Cholesterol is essential for modulating cell membrane fluidity, cell transporters, and intracellular signaling systems, and is a precursor to myelin, bile salts, Vitamin D, steroid hormones (corticosteroids, sex hormones, mineralocorticoids), and establishes impermeability of the skin. All somatic cells, including astrocytes and oligodendrocytes in the brain, make cholesterol through the same pathway that the liver utilizes, and can obtain some from High-Density Lipoprotein (HDL) [57,124,125]. Even when LDL-C is extremely low, there is no impairment of cellular cholesterol production and utilization within the brain because the brain produces its own pool of cholesterol [126], as do all cells in the body. No tissues depend on cholesterol transfer from LDL-C (the ovaries, testes, and adrenals produce cholesterol de novo or import it via SR-B1 receptors from HDL particles). Currently, common practice considers an LDL-C of 100 mg/dl as acceptable, but atherosclerosis exists even below an LDL-C of 55 mg/dl and even lower [127].

3.6. The primary role of lipoproteins is excretion of excess cholesterol
While apolipoproteins play the dual role of distributing triglyceride and cholesterol to systemic tissues, their primary role is to facilitate excretion of cholesterol from the bloodstream and the body [128]. Atherosclerosis occurs when those mechanisms are inadequate and lead to excess circulating cholesterol that is deposited in the intimal space of medium to large arteries by transcytosis of LDL particles and atherogenic apo B remnants [18,129]. Atherogenic apolipoprotein B (ApoB) lipoproteins include LDL, Very Low-Density Lipoprotein (VLDL), and Intermediate-Density Lipoprotein (IDL). These lipoproteins are toxic because they deliver sterols, oxysterols, oxidized phospholipids, and toxic lipids (e.g., oxidized fatty acids) into the arterial vasculature and potentiate inflammation, a primary driving force of atherogenesis [130].

 

[Sharron1]

I wonder if someone can advise me. I eat avoc and almonds . Yum. Yesterday I was talking with a new nurse at the surgery (because she is new I am being kind). She told me avos and almonds are very high in saturated fats and I should avoid them as they can contribute to an increase in cholestrol.

My undersranding is that our liver produces cholestrol and while reducing additional saturated fats ( not eliminating them) is sensible our body needs a level of cholestrol. But not to have avos and almonds. Not convinced about that.

Ok after all this flurry of thoughts and responses I shall ignore the nurse's comments re avocado and almonds and simply stick with them in my diet . I was going to do that anyway.

 

[Dave_Z1a]

Tuck in to the Avacados! I have them every other day for breakfast. In addition I stuff nuts, peanut butter, cream, fry ups, due to the body burning the fats in place of the carbs it seems to make no effect on my cholesterol readings, so far, which are in normal range!

 

[bulkbiker]

The implication that circulating (LDL) cholesterol from liver production is important.

Which even you should agree was not what I said at all ...
You may have seen an implication that wasn't there.