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2bornot2b
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KookyCat
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Hi 2Bornot2B
Underactive thyroid can be an autoimmune condition which is known to be "related" to type 1 diabetes which is also an autoimmune condition. Once you have one autoimmune condition (where your own immune system attacks your body) others are more likely. Type 2 diabetes is more common, as in more people have type 2 than T1 or MODY types and it isn't thought to be the result of an autoimmune disorder. I believe the jury is still out on whether there's a link between type 2 and thyroid disorders, but I read recently that an underactive thyroid might cause increased insulin resistance and therefore could be a factor in someone developing type 2.
Are you worried that you might have diabetes?
Underactive thyroid can be an autoimmune condition which is known to be "related" to type 1 diabetes which is also an autoimmune condition. Once you have one autoimmune condition (where your own immune system attacks your body) others are more likely. Type 2 diabetes is more common, as in more people have type 2 than T1 or MODY types and it isn't thought to be the result of an autoimmune disorder. I believe the jury is still out on whether there's a link between type 2 and thyroid disorders, but I read recently that an underactive thyroid might cause increased insulin resistance and therefore could be a factor in someone developing type 2.
Are you worried that you might have diabetes?
2Bornot2B
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Thank you so much for your reply. The reason I am concerned is that having had a routine blood test my doctor told me I was diabetic. I find this difficult to accept because this has never been mentioned to me before, but he was very adamant. He ordered a glucose test which was negative. My blood tests have show that my blood levels were 6.6 , 7.4 , 7.8 which I believe could be normal but some advice would be helpful thank you.
Northerner
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Were these fasting levels? Two fasting levels over 7.0 are sufficient to diagnose you with diabetes. What was the 'glucose test' like, did it involve being tested, then drinking a sweet liquid, then getting tested again? This is known as a 'Glucose Tolerance Test. If it was this, do you know what the actual result was?
2Bornot2B
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Yes that was the test, I haven't seen the doctor regarding the results, I received a text message saying "that no further action was required." Hopefully he was wrong with his first diagnosis but
this has alarmed me enough to watch very carefully what I eat. It was my optician who suggested a blood test because my prescription glasses were changing by the month. I do have some of the symptoms i.e. dry throat, dizziness and feeling lightheaded, I lack energy and poor circulation results in very cold feet. But this may be because of an underactive Thyroid.
this has alarmed me enough to watch very carefully what I eat. It was my optician who suggested a blood test because my prescription glasses were changing by the month. I do have some of the symptoms i.e. dry throat, dizziness and feeling lightheaded, I lack energy and poor circulation results in very cold feet. But this may be because of an underactive Thyroid.
Lynn Davies
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A long time ago one monday morning my husband had a finger prick test during an MOT at the Dr's - his levels were above the required so he had to go back the next day to repeat the test.
I saw the nurse later in the afternoon of the first test and she said there was nothing to worry about - just raised glucose levels in his blood. I told her that I was not surprised as he had eaten a kilo of skittles over the weekend! His second test was down in the required levels.
Had you been eating more than usual of the sugary stuff the day before?
I saw the nurse later in the afternoon of the first test and she said there was nothing to worry about - just raised glucose levels in his blood. I told her that I was not surprised as he had eaten a kilo of skittles over the weekend! His second test was down in the required levels.
Had you been eating more than usual of the sugary stuff the day before?
2Bornot2B
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No! I don't recall eating loads of sugary foods only cereal and toast an hour before the Impromptu test. On that occasion the finger test was 7.6 . The next finger test was done at a hospital appointment, for pre op assessment to remove a cataract; the test result was 7.8. The day of the surgery the test result was again 7.8. The nurse told me this was quite normal .
All these figures are very mystifying, some professionals say these glucose levels are not an indication of diabetes. Others say 6.6 is regarded as an indication of having the disease.
My late husband was diagnosed many years ago as being a T2 diabetic. He was extremely bad at controlling his sugar levels. The advice given by the doctors and nurses looking after him went unheeded, resulting in his glucose levels being totally out of control most of the time.
He was put on insulin but he still remand in denial.
In 2004 he developed sepsis and was extremely ill suffering total organ failure. By some miracle and against all the odds, he managed to survive. The damaged nerve endings in his fingers and toes resulted in him developing gangrene to all his fingers and toes. He had an operations to remove his toes and some of his foot his fingers were allowed to drop off.
He was discharged from hospital after 135 days,
Sadley he never improved his diet dispite all the nagging from me, family and friends. He drunk copious amounts of fizzy drinks, and consumed lots of biscuits and cakes, (all of which I Hasten add were not on my grocery lists.) He developed diabetic neropathy, and was unable to digest any food and sadly passed away in 2013.
So I do know the problems which an uncontrolled diet can do to your body. The suggestion of diabetes sends me into panic mode. Yesterday I had a telephone call from the surgery asking me to go in and talk to the doctor about my medication. This will give me an opportunity to discuss my confusion with the mixed messages.
This website and forums would have been a godsend to me and my husbad; giving us botha better understand his condition.
All these figures are very mystifying, some professionals say these glucose levels are not an indication of diabetes. Others say 6.6 is regarded as an indication of having the disease.
My late husband was diagnosed many years ago as being a T2 diabetic. He was extremely bad at controlling his sugar levels. The advice given by the doctors and nurses looking after him went unheeded, resulting in his glucose levels being totally out of control most of the time.
He was put on insulin but he still remand in denial.
In 2004 he developed sepsis and was extremely ill suffering total organ failure. By some miracle and against all the odds, he managed to survive. The damaged nerve endings in his fingers and toes resulted in him developing gangrene to all his fingers and toes. He had an operations to remove his toes and some of his foot his fingers were allowed to drop off.
He was discharged from hospital after 135 days,
Sadley he never improved his diet dispite all the nagging from me, family and friends. He drunk copious amounts of fizzy drinks, and consumed lots of biscuits and cakes, (all of which I Hasten add were not on my grocery lists.) He developed diabetic neropathy, and was unable to digest any food and sadly passed away in 2013.
So I do know the problems which an uncontrolled diet can do to your body. The suggestion of diabetes sends me into panic mode. Yesterday I had a telephone call from the surgery asking me to go in and talk to the doctor about my medication. This will give me an opportunity to discuss my confusion with the mixed messages.
This website and forums would have been a godsend to me and my husbad; giving us botha better understand his condition.
stephknits
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Sorry to hear you have such mixed messages and confusion - not very helpful! After reading your husband's story, I am not surprised the thought of diabetes sends you into a panic. Sounds like you have a great attitude though and like you say, this forum is invaluable.
By looking cArefully at your diet and making a few modifications you give yourself the best chance of staying pre- diabetic. As you are probably aware, it's the carbs that we have to watch, so I suggest writing a food diary and working out the mount of carbs you would normally eat. To help you discover which of those carbs might cause your blood sugar levels to rise more than others, you could get a blood sugar testing meter. You will probably have to fund this yourself, although it may be worth an ask at the surgery. The cheapest we have found is the Codefree, which I used when I was first diagnosed and is a great little meter. If you test before you eat, and then two hours afterwards you are looking to have a rise of no more than 2. Lots of people here finf they tolerate carbs less well in the mornings and we tend to eat quite high carbs things for breakfast (eg cereals, toast etc) , so you could start there.
There are some excellent links at the top of the newbies section on how and why to test, what levels to try for etc. best of luck and let us know how you get on
By looking cArefully at your diet and making a few modifications you give yourself the best chance of staying pre- diabetic. As you are probably aware, it's the carbs that we have to watch, so I suggest writing a food diary and working out the mount of carbs you would normally eat. To help you discover which of those carbs might cause your blood sugar levels to rise more than others, you could get a blood sugar testing meter. You will probably have to fund this yourself, although it may be worth an ask at the surgery. The cheapest we have found is the Codefree, which I used when I was first diagnosed and is a great little meter. If you test before you eat, and then two hours afterwards you are looking to have a rise of no more than 2. Lots of people here finf they tolerate carbs less well in the mornings and we tend to eat quite high carbs things for breakfast (eg cereals, toast etc) , so you could start there.
There are some excellent links at the top of the newbies section on how and why to test, what levels to try for etc. best of luck and let us know how you get on
2Bornot2B
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Thank you for that useful information. My normal breakfast is cereal and toast but I have read that cereal is bad for diabetics. My doctors words were that a pre-diabetic was defined as someone with high blood sugars who did not need medication but would probably require medication within the next year; when they will test again. I am so annoyed that no one told me I was prediabetic I had to prize this information out of her just loads of blood tests and no follow-ups. It would've been helpful if someone from the surgery would have given me more positive report regarding my blood test's and not just a text message to say no further action is required. I do feel rather neglected I certainly don't want mothering but if they could help me then I think they should have tried . So once again, this forum is absolutely needed and so grateful that we have it.
Mark Parrott
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I had a blood test last July for a completely unrelated issue, and my HbA1c then was 55, which is well into the diabetic range and they didn't tell me about it until Jan! I got a phone call from my doctor out of the blue saying they want to see me as I may be diabetic! By this time, my HbA1c was up to 86! I wrote a letter of complaint to the surgery and received an apology from the doctor. Luckily, no harm has been done, but it could've easily been very different.
trophywench
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Well the important thing now, 2B is put your husband's suffering a death behind you - because that is NOT going to happen to you, because you are not going to LET it happen. are you! You definitely aren't - you've taken the first step when you registered here and introduced yourself and you are now further down the line of self-help - and TBH whatever Type we happen to be - we all have to 'treat' ourselves,
A doctor isn't me or you, he/she doesn't even live in our houses let alone our bodies - and every single one of us is different in what we can do and how our body behaves when faced with a banana a slice of toast or a bowl of cereal. So the suggestion to get your own meter is one everyone here will echo - Yes! - get one and use it! And then learn, from the results it gives you.
Start the day with a less carby breakfast - eggs are good, so are bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms - not sausages (unless they are high meat, low rusk variety) nor beans or fried bread or hash browns or most breads or toast. And defo no marmalade! LOL
Greek yoghurt with berries - if you get the frozen mixed ones just take a handful and defrost em in the microwave - I like em warmer than barely defrosted, with the really cold yoghurt dolloped on top.
I'm sure if you did a forum search with the word 'Breakfast' you'll find posts with all sorts of mice things to eat - and also things which are not good choices that others have found - when using THEIR meters.
Good luck with it!
A doctor isn't me or you, he/she doesn't even live in our houses let alone our bodies - and every single one of us is different in what we can do and how our body behaves when faced with a banana a slice of toast or a bowl of cereal. So the suggestion to get your own meter is one everyone here will echo - Yes! - get one and use it! And then learn, from the results it gives you.
Start the day with a less carby breakfast - eggs are good, so are bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms - not sausages (unless they are high meat, low rusk variety) nor beans or fried bread or hash browns or most breads or toast. And defo no marmalade! LOL
Greek yoghurt with berries - if you get the frozen mixed ones just take a handful and defrost em in the microwave - I like em warmer than barely defrosted, with the really cold yoghurt dolloped on top.
I'm sure if you did a forum search with the word 'Breakfast' you'll find posts with all sorts of mice things to eat - and also things which are not good choices that others have found - when using THEIR meters.
Good luck with it!
Lynn Davies
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I don't care how low carb they are I am not eating any!
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