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Anitram
What exactly is the XPERT course. Sorry to ask so many questions.
 
CathyB said:
I cut all potatoes, rice, pasta and only have a little low carb Burgen bread, I also spike with berries where others are fine, the only fruit I can have is 2 small apples as long as they are spread over the day. I love my diet now, I eat chilli or curry sometimes with cauliflower rice but sometimes just on its own, I love a tasty stir fry or a fresh salad with avocado, a favourite is cottage pie topped with mashed cauliflower and sprinkled with cheese 😛
If you go low carb you can go higher in good fats, butter, cream, olive oil, Greek yoghurt is a yummy treat. I also have sugar free jelly as a sweet treat 🙄. I often go to my daughters for a roast, I just don’t have the spuds and she always does plenty of cabbage, broccoli & cauliflower so I always leave feeling stuffed!! I love a juicy steak topped with garlic mushrooms and served with cauliflower cheese (no milk or flour)......the list is endless.......I’m hungry now 😱
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CathyB
I fancy making him a nice curry. What is the best way around doing a healthy one.
 
Thank you
I hope you get a lot of help with this course. I am sure it will be very educational for you.
I will take a look on the site.
 
As with everything else the Desmond Course, or Expert course, varies from place to place. They are types of Education course for Type 2 Diabetics. The reports of how helpful they are vary too!
 
Do be aware that life expectancy is not increased by having low LDL cholesterol, rather the reverse, and women get older with higher rather than lower cholesterol.
That is the thing about all the data being collected these days it is showing up a lot of dietary advice as being wrong.
A swift trawl through sites such as that for BMJ open can be rather eye opening.
Advice such as do not insist that people avoid saturated fats is now being distributed, as avoiding saturated fat means missing out on important nutrients.
 
Jodee said:
@Anitram @welshy1The Desmond course referral through diabetic nurse or GP. The xpert Diabetes course is self referral, both in my experience have a dietician with information on diet. The xpert diabetes course you get a very helpful book.
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On the Desmond I did, we got a bit 'reminder' of the healthy eating for the general population; nothing for us diabetics. That's the best that could be said on the food front.
I've not got to do Xpert.
grovesy said:
These courses are not always offered in all areas.
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Some areas have Desmond (mine for one); some have Xpert (neighbouring are used to have it till 4 years ago); other area have their own provision. Cost can be a consideration.

Desmond is 2 sessions of 2 (or 2& half) hours. Xpert is 6, about the same length.
My area is supposed to have a Carbohydrates Awareness session (seperate to Desmond). It's not promoted and doesn't actually run. Xpert includes it I believe.
 
Services and classes vary I would imagine,teh Desmond course wasn't of any great help to me and I wonder if
welshy1 said:
Grovesy, Jodee, Anitram
When I was in with nurse yesterday I told her I was concerned about partners diet. She told me the DN had referred him for support, that's all she told me, may takes weeks to hear from them she said. What would the support be, would it be something like you have just mentioned. The Desmond course, we were not told anything at all by the DN.
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Yes I should think you have been referred to a Desmond course,I was diagnosed in a May and went on one about a month ago,your partner can get a list of questions written on a pad at home then he can ask those at the course and they will answer them for him,tell him not to worry about the course,it's done in a relaxed atmosphere I think there was about 10 people in total at mine and all of those people were new to this,the information that I have used to help with my T2 has come from the forums on this site,which has been great for tips a chat and a lot of support that propped me up on the days that I felt a bit low.
It takes a little time to adjust to different a way of life,I found that foods that I had previously eaten gave me the feel good factor and at times were an emotional crutch and so they were missed to begin with,but I'm feeling pretty good now with my journey on low carbs considering I have cut out so many foods,it's good to lose weight and feel healthy though.
Your partner will get there in the end,I used to cope poorly with change but I've embraced it now.
 
welshy1 said:
CathyB
I fancy making him a nice curry. What is the best way around doing a healthy one.
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Go to the home page of Diabetes UK and use the Search box for 'diabetic curry'. There are several recipes
You could do a similar Search on YouTube
 
belugalad said:
Services and classes vary I would imagine,teh Desmond course wasn't of any great help to me and I wonder if


Yes I should think you have been referred to a Desmond course,I was diagnosed in a May and went on one about a month ago,your partner can get a list of questions written on a pad at home then he can ask those at the course and they will answer them for him,tell him not to worry about the course,it's done in a relaxed atmosphere I think there was about 10 people in total at mine and all of those people were new to this,the information that I have used to help with my T2 has come from the forums on this site,which has been great for tips a chat and a lot of support that propped me up on the days that I felt a bit low.
It takes a little time to adjust to different a way of life,I found that foods that I had previously eaten gave me the feel good factor and at times were an emotional crutch and so they were missed to begin with,but I'm feeling pretty good now with my journey on low carbs considering I have cut out so many foods,it's good to lose weight and feel healthy though.
Your partner will get there in the end,I used to cope poorly with change but I've embraced it now.
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belugalad
Thanks for the help.
He is on a bit of a bad day today. He hasn't ate as much today, hopefully tomorrow will be a better day for him.
 
zuludog said:
Go to the home page of Diabetes UK and use the Search box for 'diabetic curry'. There are several recipes
You could do a similar Search on YouTube
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Zuludog
I will have a look on there thanks.
 
welshy1 said:
Hi zuludog
Thanks for the info on spuds.
I am really srtuggling at moment to prepare good food. Just had our lunch. It was bland and boring. I am steaming veg broccoli and green beans. I cooked chicken in oven in foil, I had fish cooked same way. But there is no taste in anything. I am going to have to find something to make the food tasty. I did look at some recipes earlier. I am going to try cottage pie with carrot mash that sounds really tasty.
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Hello Welshy, sorry for the delay in replying

I've known for years that Diabetes UK has lots of useful information and advice, but it's only just really sunk in to me that they have recipes as well
If you are still 'struggling to prepare good food' go to Diabetes UK Home Page and Search for 'meals' and 'recipes' There are loads of ideas including meal plans
 
I haven't had a good day with the food today. Need to get a bit of fresh stuff in I think. I use frozen fish, is that as good as using fresh.
 
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CathyB
I fancy making him a nice curry. What is the best way around doing a healthy one.
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There are two that I make, if it’s chicken I use full fat coconut milk, I include a small onion, asparagus, red pepper and mushrooms, I tend to blend my own spices. If it’s beef I use tinned tomato, small onion, red pepper 😛
 
CathyB said:
There are two that I make, if it’s chicken I use full fat coconut milk, I include a small onion, asparagus, red pepper and mushrooms, I tend to blend my own spices. If it’s beef I use tinned tomato, small onion, red pepper 😛
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CathyB
Thanks for suggestions. I might just try one lol 😉
 
What do you use to thicken ii up Cathy, or is it quite a thick consistency.
 
I'd say the xpert diabetes course is much more informative about diets, (Its self referral see link above) talking of low carbs, Keto etc and other biological aspects of course, dangers of uncontrolled BG levels etc.
 
Drummer said:
Do be aware that life expectancy is not increased by having low LDL cholesterol, rather the reverse, and women get older with higher rather than lower cholesterol.
That is the thing about all the data being collected these days it is showing up a lot of dietary advice as being wrong.
A swift trawl through sites such as that for BMJ open can be rather eye opening.
Advice such as do not insist that people avoid saturated fats is now being distributed, as avoiding saturated fat means missing out on important nutrients.
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Drummer can you link me to the bit about cholesterol in women LDL age etc please?
 
Just had my carbs & cals pocket counter and the low carb cookbook for beginners books delivered from amazon. Going to have a good look through them see what I can cook up.
 
Ralph-YK said:
On the Desmond I did, we got a bit 'reminder' of the healthy eating for the general population; nothing for us diabetics. That's the best that could be said on the food front.
I've not got to do Xpert.

Some areas have Desmond (mine for one); some have Xpert (neighbouring are used to have it till 4 years ago); other area have their own provision. Cost can be a consideration.

Desmond is 2 sessions of 2 (or 2& half) hours. Xpert is 6, about the same length.
My area is supposed to have a Carbohydrates Awareness session (seperate to Desmond). It's not promoted and doesn't actually run. Xpert includes it I believe.
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I suspect it varies from Post Code to Post Code Ralph, on mine we have a dietician on our course, she spoke of all the fats, the carbs, portion size etc, what happens if you eat too many, what happens if you eat processed foods, smoothies and fruit juices not recommended etc as these are quickly processed into glucose, much quicker than eating the whole fruit and unprocessed vegetables etc. I think the xpert diabetes course is more comprehensive and currently it is being said that low fat diets are not good and if on Keto, very low carb diet full fats and protetin are so important with each meal, also animal full fat milk in quantity is not good either. Currently low carbs rather than no carbs is recommended and also the Mediterranean diet.
 
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