Embarrassing Fat Bodies C4

[Northerner]

On now, might be interesting.

 

[Carina1962]

Embarassing Fat Bodies

Is anyone watching Embarassing Fat bodies at the moment? i cannot believe how the skin can sag so badly, i've never seen anything like it 😱

 

[Carina1962]

sorry, i have just posted on 'off the subject' am watching it now and it is unbelievable - have never seen anything like it 😱

 

[Sheilagh1958]

Hope the man has s Sucessful operation.......poor man.

 

[Northerner]

Hope the man has s Sucessful operation.......poor man.

Indeed, it weighed 6 stones

I thought about trying the diabetes risk test 😉 They gave a fairly good description of the risks of Type2 from being apple-shaped obese, but failed to mention that not all T2s are obese, giving the impression that you had to be obese to be T2. I know the programme is mainly about fat, but just a sentence or two would increase the public's awareness that it can be caused by other things.

 

[C*5_Dodger]

Indeed, it weighed 6 stones

I thought about trying the diabetes risk test 😉 They gave a fairly good description of the risks of Type2 from being apple-shaped obese, but failed to mention that not all T2s are obese, giving the impression that you had to be obese to be T2. I know the programme is mainly about fat, but just a sentence or two would increase the public's awareness that it can be caused by other things.

Dear Northerner,

I think they should have said something along the lines that you wrote. However, Obesity does not cause T2, both are a result of a common underlying condition - Metabolic Syndrome (Mets). I watched part of it but found it too distressing!

Regards Dodger

 

[Northerner]

Dear Northerner,

I think they should have said something along the lines that you wrote. However, Obesity does not cause T2, both are a result of a common underlying condition - Metabolic Syndrome (Mets). I watched part of it but found it too distressing!

Regards Dodger

I was interested to see that next week they are going to test Dr Christian, who is clearly not obese, to see if he has the 'hidden' fat that is thought to be the risk for non-obese Type 2s, so we may get some further explanation.

 

[Steff]

I watched 2 miutes of it and caught the guy who had the overhang poor man

 

[Northerner]

I watched 2 miutes of it and caught the guy who had the overhang poor man

It's a terrible shame that he was left to live like that for so long until finally getting the treatment he needed through a television show. How can someone be left to live like that when something can be done? Yes, the surgery was very risky, but the poor man must have lived in pure misery for years You could feel how much brighter he was afterwards, even through the television screen 🙂

 

[Steff]

It's a terrible shame that he was left to live like that for so long until finally getting the treatment he needed through a television show. How can someone be left to live like that when something can be done? Yes, the surgery was very risky, but the poor man must have lived in pure misery for years You could feel how much brighter he was afterwards, even through the television screen 🙂

What did they do with the guy to help ? x

 

[Northerner]

What did they do with the guy to help ? x

They cut off the excess - it weighed 6st 2lb 😱 He said that afterwards he had problems with his balance and kept falling backwards because he no longer had the weight pulling him forwards.

 

[KateXXXXXX]

One of the things about losing weight (and I shed five stones), is that skin takes longer to shrink than the rest of you. Skin is elastic, and it does shrink a bit when you lose, but the older and the fatter you are, the less it shrinks and it shrinks more slowly... You need about two years and a rigerous amount of exercise and moisturising massage to get the excess skin to shrink down to your new size when you shed that amount rapidly. I found the best thing was to lose the weight at moderate speed, swim and exercise regularly (2-3 times a week), and to use copious amounts of good quality moisuriser after being in the pool.

The more you have to lose, the less likely you are to be able to shrink down all the skin. Leaving large areas of excess skin in folds is both uncomfortable and unhealthy, as it leaves you far more open to and prone to skin infections such as thrush. When it becomes unhealthy, you need plastic surgery to remove it. This is not done lightly, as the surgery itself can be dangerous. Sometims you need to have it done in stages as you lose the weight, if you are 'super-sized.

I need to lose a couple of stone that I regained for the sake of my knees. I live with the constant pain of fibromyalgia, and have an additional knee problem (something long and complicated in Latin that the rheumatologist translated as 'It means you have wobbly kneecaps, my dear! Can be very painful.'), so need to keep the weight down and keep the legs strong to keep the knees in place!

I freely admit that I was fat because, while we had a very health mealtime diet, in between I snacked on copious quantities of biscuits and cake and took little exercise. I hate 'exercise'. The fibro means no gym for this bunny, so I swim and I walk.

Just saying that people are fat because they eat too much is all very well, and for the majority it's true: but to leave it at that is oversimplification to the point of inaccuracy. One needs to examine the reasons for over eating. In my case it was simple laziness and greed, and a matter of retraining myself when things went wrong. And I am a naturally managing and strong-willed person, and I still find that very hard. For others the issue is nothing like so clear cut, and if they don't have a will of iron and a determination woven from steel hawsers, they need help. Part of that may be physical (helping them to control their diet, take exercise, and surgery where required), and part of that is psycological. Compassion and understanding goes a long way towards that.

I didn't see the program, but I have seen similar things in the past.

 

[Northerner]

...Just saying that people are fat because they eat too much is all very well, and for the majority it's true: but to leave it at that is oversimplification to the point of inaccuracy. One needs to examine the reasons for over eating. In my case it was simple laziness and greed, and a matter of retraining myself when things went wrong. And I am a naturally managing and strong-willed person, and I still find that very hard. For others the issue is nothing like so clear cut, and if they don't have a will of iron and a determination woven from steel hawsers, they need help. Part of that may be physical (helping them to control their diet, take exercise, and surgery where required), and part of that is psycological. Compassion and understanding goes a long way towards that.

I didn't see the program, but I have seen similar things in the past.

Sorry to hear of your problems Kate Actually, the programme handled the whole issue very sensitively in my opinion, and there was no element of blame. Several of the participants had already lost considerable amounts of weight, with some experiencing the loose skin problems you talk of. The chap we have discussed on this thread had his problems caused by massive doses of steroids given to save his life after an asthma attack. The 'Embarrassing Bodies' concept is not that people should be embarrassed by their problems, but that this is how they personally feel and the team help them overcome their problems. By their bravery in allowing thier problems to be discussed, hopefully this will encourage others to seek help for their own problems. 🙂

 

[KateXXXXXX]

I've always been impressed by the compassion the Embarassing Bodies team show to their participants. And I agree: airing the problems folk face and showing them that there is help available is very important.

 

[simonrudd]

the program was quite interesting - one thing that i wondered - why didnt they give the 40st bloke Byetta rather than a bypass?? i've been told that Byetta helps people loose weight (the DB Nurse keeps saying i should go on it)

One thing that annoyed me was that, yes being over weight isnt a good thing - but they say it all comes down to over eating. Now i eat very little - always have, but i've always been "fat". i rally think i couldnt cut down any more than i have already. although i'm sure this is probably because i still have a carby diet (bread, pasta, potatoes)

 

[C*5_Dodger]

the program was quite interesting - one thing that i wondered - why didnt they give the 40st bloke Byetta rather than a bypass?? i've been told that Byetta helps people loose weight (the DB Nurse keeps saying i should go on it)

One thing that annoyed me was that, yes being over weight isnt a good thing - but they say it all comes down to over eating. Now i eat very little - always have, but i've always been "fat". i rally think i couldnt cut down any more than i have already. although i'm sure this is probably because i still have a carby diet (bread, pasta, potatoes)

Dear Simon,

You're correct, it's about chronically high insulin trapping fat in your adipose tissue. This means that your organs and lean tissue are starved. The upshot is you feel hungry and are driven to (over)eat. If you resist the tempation, it doesn't solve the problem because you can still have chronically high insulin even if you undereat. Its not about restricting calories and exercising its about correcting a biochemical imbalance, The solution is simple - don't eat food that cause a high insulin (and hence insulin resistance) response.

Regards Dodger

 

[simonrudd]

The upshot is you feel hungry and are driven to (over)eat. If you resist the tempation, it doesn't solve the problem because you can still have chronically high insulin even if you undereat. Its not about restricting calories and exercising its about correcting a biochemical imbalance, The solution is simple - don't eat food that cause a high insulin (and hence insulin resistance) response.

Regards Dodger

But that is my point - i dont over eat - i never have, i never will. what sort of foods should i eat?? i do have salads, meats etc.

 

[C*5_Dodger]

But that is my point - i dont over eat - i never have, i never will. what sort of foods should i eat?? i do have salads, meats etc.

Dear Simon,

I thought it was clear - the foods that cause a high insulin response are high GI carbs, not all carbs, at least in non diabetics. Because we have broken our pancreas's we may find all carbs are a problem. It could be glucose derived from protein also. BTW your diet sounds good, but high BS/HbA1c readings mean that the glucose is coming from somewhere!

Regards Dodger

 

[simonrudd]

its something i'm going to have to educate myself with 🙂

 

[Northerner]

But that is my point - i dont over eat - i never have, i never will. what sort of foods should i eat?? i do have salads, meats etc.

Simon, I can understand your frustration, I have several friends who eat less than me, yet can't seem to shift the weight, and you only need to look down any street to see that people are built differently, that's genetics for you! Probably the only thing you can do if your diet is good is increase your exercise levels so you are burning more calories than you consume. Probably difficult for you to do easily, given your foot problems - how is that going, by the way?