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Diabetes diet v Kidney Stone diet!!!

pjgtech

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Type 2
Simple question really, is a good T2D diabetic diet not compatible with a good diet to avoid kidney stones?

In the past I have had several kidney stones, all passed naturally.
The 1st one was large (10mm x5mm) which did smart a bit! and it took about six months to pass, and despite an ultrasound, CT scan and Xray, they did not spot it....and it hurt like hell!
Subsequently, I've had about 4 or five other stones, but all much smaller and less painful.
Have not had any stones for about 2years or so.
On Monday I woke up at 4am with the now easily recognisable "pains", I was doubled up for hours, then it subsided. I am 90% sure its another kidney stone on the way, oh joy....
So I refreshed myself on what one should try to avoid in the diet to minimise kidney stones from forming.

Quick google threw up a list - Things to avoid include:
Nuts, especially almonds, some berries, meat protein, (especially red meat), meat organs/offall, strawberries, Celery, fish, eggs, cheese, cauliflower, mushrooms, etc.

All the above are things I now eat more of, due to taking on a low carb diet, eg: celery, berries, meat and poultry, eggs, cheese, most above ground veg and lots of mushrooms, etc.

NB: I had already lowered my salt intake due to high BP, years ago, so rarely add salt to anything. And I make sure I drink plenty of water every day, ever since 1st being diagnosed with stones, (sometimes taken with lemon juice, as advised by my Nethrology Consultant at the time).

If I minimise all the above foods, to minimise kidney stones, that will severely restrict my diet for everything else!
If its not one thing, its summit else, Bah! 8-(
 
Simple question really, is a good T2D diabetic diet not compatible with a good diet to avoid kidney stones?

In the past I have had several kidney stones, all passed naturally.
The 1st one was large (10mm x5mm) which did smart a bit! and it took about six months to pass, and despite an ultrasound, CT scan and Xray, they did not spot it....and it hurt like hell!
Subsequently, I've had about 4 or five other stones, but all much smaller and less painful.
Have not had any stones for about 2years or so.
On Monday I woke up at 4am with the now easily recognisable "pains", I was doubled up for hours, then it subsided. I am 90% sure its another kidney stone on the way, oh joy....
So I refreshed myself on what one should try to avoid in the diet to minimise kidney stones from forming.

Quick google threw up a list - Things to avoid include:
Nuts, especially almonds, some berries, meat protein, (especially red meat), meat organs/offall, strawberries, Celery, fish, eggs, cheese, cauliflower, mushrooms, etc.

All the above are things I now eat more of, due to taking on a low carb diet, eg: celery, berries, meat and poultry, eggs, cheese, most above ground veg and lots of mushrooms, etc.

NB: I had already lowered my salt intake due to high BP, years ago, so rarely add salt to anything. And I make sure I drink plenty of water every day, ever since 1st being diagnosed with stones, (sometimes taken with lemon juice, as advised by my Nethrology Consultant at the time).

If I minimise all the above foods, to minimise kidney stones, that will severely restrict my diet for everything else!
If its not one thing, its summit else, Bah! 8-(
What you need to change may depend on what type of stones you might have or have had as there are four type.
This link explains so you may find it useful. https://www.kidney.org/kidney-topics/kidney-stones
 
What you need to change may depend on what type of stones you might have or have had as there are four type.
This link explains so you may find it useful. https://www.kidney.org/kidney-topics/kidney-stones
Yeah, thanx for the link, but I already know there's four different types, mine have always been the most common type.
Eg, consultants last letter indicated testing of stones showed 30% calcium Oxalate and 70% calcium Phosphate.
 
Oh no!! I’m so sorry to hear about the kidney stones @pjgtech - after all your amazing work getting your T2D to behave.

It’s a familiar challenge for several folks on the forum who have multiple health conditions ganging up on them. :(

Hopefully there’s a sort of middle-ground you can aim for where the most significant improvements for each condition can be catered for, but the fuzzier stuff in the middle still leaving you with a little flexibility and room for manoevre?
 
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