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We now know there is only a 75% of recovery for diabetics that get covid (BBC QuestionTime last night). Recovery will worsen with increased age of course. This will add to the danger of working with children who are great carriers.
I didn’t see Question Time, but I don’t know how they could possibly have procured figures that say that, when a lot of people, diabetics included, have had it mildly and recovered without ever being tested and becoming a statistic.
If they’ve interpreted the '25% of people who died had diabetes' as 'diabetics only have a 75% survival rate' then this is absolute nonsense and scaremongering at its worst.
Did not watch question time either - I avoid those types of programme because what you generally get are spokesmen peddling whatever story the organisation they belong to wants promulgating combined with a broadcaster anxious for sensational stuff that will up their ratings. Not a good place to get reasoned and balanced analysis.
Agreed but right now there is a centre ground of people who are vulnerable and very anxious being told to go to work, and we need the media to bring news to our attention for when the government doesn't for whatever reason.
Very Droll Bruce 🙂 I think realistically if it came to that particular scenario the men folk wouldn't allow their wife and kids out their own and out to work as well.
Very Droll Bruce 🙂 I think realistically if it came to that particular scenario the men folk wouldn't allow their wife and kids out their own and out to work as well.
Agreed but right now there is a centre ground of people who are vulnerable and very anxious being told to go to work, and we need the media to bring news to our attention for when the government doesn't for whatever reason.
Can accept that there are a lot of people in the centre ground that are anxious about being told to go to work, its the vulnerability that I am not sure about. In this case, blanket categorisations designed to make sure that there are no false negatives at the expense of many false positives, are not very helpful. It can create a lot of unnecessarily anxious people.
My doctor has stated that he thinks I should continue to work from home due to my vulnerability (type 1 and asthmatic). He has said that he would not want me coming into contact with the children of NHS staff and so told me not to go in for the past few weeks as 8 of the 15 kids in at present have both parents as key workers. He thinks that were I to contract the disease, the effects are likely to be more severe, despite being fairly fit and healthy. The school that his children go to had to let him know if his children were likely to come into contact with any staff who were vulnerable before he would consider sending them in.
Who knows how this will pan out. The right wing rags have run yet more scandalous headlines today, trying to tarnish teachers - deflecting attention away from the ineptitude of the government perhaps? Two friends of mine who are headteachers in the primary sector sent out questionnaires to parents at the start of the week asking if they would be sending their children back on 1st June. One said that 65% have said no and the other said it is over 70%.
Good grief. 🙄 Must admit I haven't seen any corks popping in recent months. Good teachers using a killer virus for political gain? This reporter must be hallucinating on meds poor thing.
It did say that they don’t know if it was the diabetes or their life style choices. If your BGs are stable, you eat well and exercise, your chances of contracting Covid 19 are no more than a non diabetic.
Sadly,I don't think that is accurate. From the various reports & interpretations I have seen I believe that this is true if you are 40 or under but the risk increases with age & chronic illness, especially those with diabetes.
Tilly26, you have got to separate out the chances of contracting Covid which are the same for everybody and the chances of getting very ill from it where the risk does increase with the factors you mention. Even then, that risk only gets significant if you are over 70 or are obese or if you have some medical conditions.
Diabetes is only significant (risk factor about 2) if it is out of control and your HbA1c is over 80. It's on a par with being obese or over 75. Not a good idea to get it if you are a fat 80 year old man with rampant diabetes. For most people with diabetes, the risk of getting really ill is not a lot different to anybody else.
That's what the numbers say. Don't believe all you read on the internet.
Tilly26, you have got to separate out the chances of contracting Covid which are the same for everybody and the chances of getting very ill from it where the risk does increase with the factors you mention. Even then, that risk only gets significant if you are over 70 or are obese or if you have some medical conditions.
Diabetes is only significant (risk factor about 2) if it is out of control and your HbA1c is over 80. It's on a par with being obese or over 75. Not a good idea to get it if you are a fat 80 year old man with rampant diabetes. For most people with diabetes, the risk of getting really ill is not a lot different to anybody else.
That's what the numbers say. Don't believe all you read on the internet.
Where are the numbers coming from exactly? The quality of data has to be near perfect to draw any valid scientific opinion surely? This would normally involve tests carried out under strict laboratory conditions for instance. Everything seems to be done on the fly and I imagine this is the worst possible method to obtain data to draw your results from. We only have gut instinct to draw upon I far as I can tell, and mine is telling me not to go in haste. I'm expecting infections to rise after seeing the beginning of social distancing breakdown at the weekend. I won't be coming out just yet.
As far as I can make out, all of the numbers are coming from the two NHS papers referred to in another thread which is looking at factors leading to increased death rates in hospitals. It is where I am getting the numbers from.
You are right in that it should be treated with due caution which in my book says don't use it to write banner headlines.
Where are the numbers coming from exactly? The quality of data has to be near perfect to draw any valid scientific opinion surely? This would normally involve tests carried out under strict laboratory conditions for instance. Everything seems to be done on the fly and I imagine this is the worst possible method to obtain data to draw your results from.
The quality of data for anything involving people is rarely anything approaching perfect, but that doesn't mean we can't know anything.
There have been other (that is, apart from the papers on UK deaths) reports of risks of hyperglycaemia.
I do worry a bit about trying to split out various factors for Type 1 deaths from the UK data. That's all based on 345 deaths in hospitals, and it feels to me you don't need to split that too much before you've just got coincidence. However, the authors used software designed for this and I'm in no way a statistician.
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