vitamins

[belugalad]

I have newly diagnosed T2 and have lowered my carbs a lot and have been exercising,I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on vitamins that they feel are essential or are an effective aid somehow for this condition,I know it's a personal choice and some people feel better from vitamins due to perhaps a placebo effect,but I would be interested to see what peoples thoughts are on the use of certain vitamins

 

[Grannylorraine]

I personally view them as a waste of money, my hubby on the other hands buys mountains of the things, but he doesn't eat much veg.

 

[belugalad]

I personally view them as a waste of money, my hubby on the other hands buys mountains of the things, but he doesn't eat much veg.

Do you know what I was just looking on a well known hight st companies website that sells vitamins and realised it could be very easy to spend a fortune,no wonder they can afford to do a penny sale

 

[Grannylorraine]

Do you know what I was just looking on a well known hight st companies website that sells vitamins and realised it could be very easy to spend a fortune,no wonder they can afford to do a penny sale

Guess where my hubby gets most of his from.

 

[belugalad]

Guess where my hubby gets most of his from.

Mind you it's easy to do, when I found out my mum had dementia I bought everything for her,beetrot juice,coconut oil and loads and loads of different obscure vitamins

 

[belugalad]

Personally I believe that we should get everything we need from what we eat. I've never taken any dietary supplements. However, I know people who swear by them, eg my wife.

Martin

I've stopped drinking milk so was thinking about that loss of calcium but the cheese I'm eating should cover that I suppose and the yoghurt

 

[mikeyB]

Taking additional vitamins is a waste of money if you eat a normal healthy diet. Vegans have to work hard to manage that, but it is possible. Some vitamins are positively dangerous in excess, which is easy to achieve on top of a normal diet.

And if you’re joints are a bit achy, don’t buy chondroitin. It doesn’t work, other than by the placebo effect.

 

[mikeyB]

I don't have milk anymore either, except in my tea, but I use unsweetened almond milk on my Weetabix, which gives me 30% of RDA for calcium.

Martin

I’m surprised you can tolerate Weetabix, spikes my BG for sure. Contains quite a lot of sugar. Also has added iron, which is irrelevant in your case because ingredients in Almonds prevent its absorption. Does the same with magnesium and zinc, as well. I wouldn’t touch the stuff because of environmental destruction, plus the Calcium in it is added in some arcane industrial process. I prefer my milk produced naturally.

It’s lower in fat, of course, but only because they dilute it with water. Lots of it.

 

[belugalad]

So almonds stop you absorbing magnesium,iron and zinc,they contain all of those things don't they,so they contain something else that prevents the absorption of those vitamins,I have the with yoghurt in the morning,I shall have them as snacks

 

[KARNAK]

One Weetabix 13g carb of which 0.8g is sugar? Chose it as breakfast because it's wholegrain, which is recommended over refined grains, although I know some people aren't able to tolerate grains so not for everyone.

Martin

Sorry @Anitram I would be in the back of an Ambulance/Hearse with two Weetabix.

 

[leonS]

MikeyB is bang on, but the devil is in the detail "if you eat a normal healthy diet".

Very early treatment of type 1 was to restrict carb intake to very low levels as insulin was not so easy to obtain. This caused a lack of B12 and early death of many young diabetics. B12 is found in bread and this was almost excluded from early type 1 treatment. (if I remember correctly the details that I learned 50 years ago).

I wonder if this could be a problem with low carb treatments used in type 11.

 

[mikeyB]

A T-Bone steak has plenty of B12 and few carbs. So does liver, chicken, eggs, milk. Only milk has a significant level of carbs. What has bread got to do with anything? Bread was only fortified with B12 and folic acid in the 1990s.

 

[grovesy]

If I've learnt one thing since joining the forum it's that what's OK for some isn't OK for others. Fortunately my switch to wholegrain bread, cereal and pasta - which everything I've read recommends - seems to be working for me, at least so far.

Martin

I have found over the years that I have from time to time , had to readjust what I eat and works.

 

[Indy1282]

Sorry @Anitram I would be in the back of an Ambulance/Hearse with two Weetabix.

Really?

 

[Matt Cycle]

Type 1 and Type 2 are different things. Genuine T1 is an absence of insulin. If you're T1 and can match insulin to carbs (not always easy I know) then you can eat what you want.

 

[KARNAK]

Really?

Tried it, done it, ran out of insulin to cope, DKA was so close!

 

[Indy1282]

Tried it, done it, ran out of insulin to cope, DKA was so close!

Can I ask how you would be nearly in DKA? I mean this as a genuine question, I'm not trying be awkward but I cant understand how someone could potentially go in to DKA and run out of insulin?

Presumably you bolused, eat the Wheetabix and spiked too high? What do you mean you ran out of insulin? You didn't take enough to cover the spike?

I was admitted to hospital with DKA when I was diagnosed with ketones 4+ and I had very high BS uncontrolled for about 5 days.

 

[HOBIE]

A varied diet is so important. 😉.

 

[KARNAK]

Hi @Indy1282 thankyou for your question, in the early days of diagnosis I was rushed into hospital with DKA, the Basal insulin was 56 units mornings and the overnight was 32 no Bolus. I was taken extra vitamins for Arthritis, Glucosamine & Chondroitin plus a few others, it turned out the insulin was being compromised by the vitamins and I had to stop taking them. I spent three days on a machine which delivered insulin 24 hours a day plus two hands full of cannulas with various drips fed into my body. I don`t want you getting the wrong idea it was explained at the time it was an unusual occurrence, but was potentially life threatening. I no longer take any vitamins except those prescribed by the Doc for reduced bone strength, I have had to readjust my diet for the better, as a T1 I should be able to eat most things, not so. I hope this helps my friend.